Talk:Tokugawa clan

Is Tokugawa Toyokazu a member of this family before 1868, or even an actual member of this family at all? Tadakuni 17:53, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Conflicting accounts need fixing

The inconsistency between the following two articles needs fixing:

The Tokugawa clan article tells us: The Tokugawa clan ... nominally descended from Emperor Seiwa (850–880) and were a branch of the Minamoto clan (Seiwa Genji) by the Nitta clan.

But the Shogun article tells us: Tokugawa Ieyasu ... received the title sei-i taishōgun in 1603 after he forged a family tree to show he was of Minamoto descent.[11]

11.^ Titsingh, I. (1834). Annales des empereurs du Japon, p. 409

Unless one of these versions is purely an eccentric fringe theory, then both versions need to appear in both articles, due to WP:NPOV. If one of them is fringe (something which I'm in no position to decide), then the non-fringe version needs to appear in both articles. Tlhslobus (talk) 13:54, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

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