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1986-87 not 84

Undertaker did NOT debut in 1984, he states in his DVD called, "This is my yard', that he debuted in the late 80's, 86-87. 24.24.231.104 (talk) 02:12, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 7 April 2014

On 6th April 2014 The Undertaker finally lost his 21-0 streak at WrestleMania to Brock Lesnar. Oddsockrs (talk) 02:54, 7 April 2014 (UTC)

Already done Sam Sailor ^Sing 06:14, 7 April 2014 (UTC)

Wrestlemania Streak

In some wrestlemania's it gives a number. In others it gives roman numerals. Surely it would be better if it was all roman numerals or all numbers.Perfectamundo (talk) 18:29, 7 April 2014 (UTC)

They're listed in the style they were presented in; Wrestlemania X used a roman numeral but 13 used digits, for example. The inconsistency isn't our invention. GRAPPLE X 18:59, 7 April 2014 (UTC).2014 Wrestlemania Undertaker Chose His Opponent And Break His Steak.

Recent edits

The streak as a "recent invention" is irrelevant. It's a core part of his character and, whether or not a streak was known before WM21, it's notable enough to be recognized. As for the "legit" thing, Wikipedia articles strive not to have a bunch of WP:JARGON terms clogging up the text. It should be instead written with the intention of allowing any reader to read it easily, without having to know/learn terminology beforehand. Antoshi ☏ ★ 00:37, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

Re: The Streak. You are confusing two things. Sure the streak is part of the UT's current character. Hence, we have a section listing all his WM matches. The streak is also mentioned with every WM match were it was part of the storyline, beginning, I think, with Randy Orton. However, that doesn't mean that we have to mention it with every match - it is particularly pointless with the matches against Snuka (extremely pointless), Robert, Gonzalez, Bundy as it was nothing special then.

Re: Legit. My point is that "legit" and "legitimate", though etymologically linked, mean something else. The latter implies a value judgement.

Furthermore: by your your reverts you reverting back in the false statement that the UT was referred to as Kane during Survivor Series - he wasn't. He was referred to as such before and after the event but if one has a look at Survivor Series, Ted DiBiase introduces him as "The Undertaker", his name is written as "The Undertaker" and the commentary also refers to him as "The Undertaker". 07:40, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

Change the Picture back

I know the current picture is a more recent picture but it doesn't really represent the character of the undertaker very well. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MarioMan9112 (talk • contribs) 07:13, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

Link leading to "Celebrity Smacktalker's Competition" in Other Media Section

The information contained in the Other Media part of the Undertaker's page, indicates he was portrayed in a professional fashion for a professional show for either TV or radio. This is not the case. The before mentioned "Celebrity Smacktalker's Competition" is a poorly made fan animation video where said fan is portraying all the characters, and has added the link to the page just for advertising rights. It has no need to be on this page.

Thank you. Mrmusicalmatt95 (talk) 10:53, 26 April 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 April 2014

LAndoMagic43 (talk) 20:19, 29 April 2014 (UTC) He will always remember that Paul Heyman's client, Brock lesnar, conquered the streak.

• Not done: it's not clear what changes you want made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. — {{U|Technical 13}} ^{(t • e • c)} 01:08, 30 April 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 July 2014

undertakers age is wrong he is over 50 check age again 82.12.236.161 (talk) 17:07, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

Please provide a better WP:reliable source than the one that exists in the article or it will not be changed. noq (talk) 17:20, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 23 September 2014

Yokozuna managed by Mr. Fuji Delorean3678 (talk) 07:50, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Cannolis (talk) 08:26, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 7 September 2014

Please add a wiki link to 'Kane (wrestler)' in the "Wrestlemania Streak" table (next to "XX".) The only wiki link to Kane that I could find easily was higher up on the page, so when I wanted to click over to Kane's page I had to ctrl+f through the 70+ mentions of 'Kane' to find one that was wiki linked. Makes sense for one to be down in the Streak table, as every other wrestler in that table has their name wiki linked (or, if faced more than once then just their first encounter is wiki linked.) Kane's is just plain text for his one and only match with him, so match the rest of the table it should be linked thusly: Kane.

Hezkezl (talk) 10:42, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

Kane is linked in the table next to "XIV". - Camyoung54 ^talk 02:00, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

 Not done WP:Overlink does allow links in tables as well as text, but only the first use, which as pointed out, is only 5 lines above. - Arjayay (talk) 16:48, 9 September 2014 (UTC)

Camyoung54 is correct, and as such my original request is no longer valid. I apparently completely missed the part of the table where Kane was listed next to XIV...Whups! Apologies about taking almost a month to respond to this, but this is definitely as it should be and as such, I withdraw my request. Thanks Hezkezl (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 08:16, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 3 November 2014

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Not done: No request made Cannolis (talk) 12:44, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

BJJ black belt

Reading in a bunch of places that Taker began BJJ under Rolles Gracie in January 2010, trained in singlet instead of gi, got a black belt in later 2011. Mostly shows up on forums, having trouble finding good references, wondering if anyone can confirm, no mention of BJJ on this page, think we should mention if it can be supported. Even if we cannot confirm, if evidence of rumors is enough it might be good to mention at least that. Particularly since Punk has BJJ credentials and both have feuded with Lesnar and both have considered UFC careers. --Ranze (talk) 22:21, 29 November 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 February 2015

The Undertaker have used Front powerslam multiple times on his career and should be added to his signature moves. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yveshe (talk • contribs) 19:54, 5 February 2015 (UTC)

I have the Vince McMahon interview referred to in the article recorded, and nothing is mentioned about Undertaker being shocked at the decision to end the streak. Quite the opposite, McMahon states that Mark Calaway was on board with it and there is no one in the business who wants to give back more than he, and that Lesnar was the logical choice and that there was nobody else on the roster that could have gotten more out of defeating Undertaker at Wrestlemania than Lesnar, and he wanted to give back to the business in the biggest possible way he could. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Magicadevil (talk • contribs) 12:03, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

Orphaned references in The Undertaker

recently he won surviver series against bray wyatt family. I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of The Undertaker's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "OWOW":

• From Sgt. Slaughter: "Sgt. Slaughter Profile". Online World Of Wrestling. Retrieved 2009-10-19.
• From Roddy Piper: "Roddy Piper Profile". Online World Of Wrestling. Retrieved 2008-09-19.
• From André the Giant: "André the Giant Profile". Online World of Wrestling. Archived from the original on September 21, 2008. Retrieved September 22, 2008. {{cite web}}: Unknown parameter |deadurl= ignored (|url-status= suggested) (help)
• From Charles Wright (wrestler): "The Godfather's OWOW profile". Online World Of Wrestling. Retrieved 2008-05-02.

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 15:31, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

Retired?

Ive found no source that stats that he has retired.--Dcheagle • talk • contribs 04:49, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

He isn't retired.LM2000 (talk) 05:10, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

Then why does the article say he is?--Dcheagle • talk • contribs 05:14, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

It doesn't anymore :) LM2000 (talk) 06:00, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

Three changes need to be made

1 - A gimmick section. 2 - More references about Undertaker's moves as the other wrestlers pages. --189.19.81.33 (talk) 17:40, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

There has been a lot of requests on this talkpage for a gimmick section. As I have a degree in journalism and have followed Taker's entire career since the early 90s, I can see what I can whip up in the next month or two. I am very busy with several projects at the present so give me a few weeks. I'll try to have something put together in or around February. AmericanDad86 (talk) 05:02, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

There isn't a Legacy section. A lot of wrestlers including Mick Foley have a Legacy section. I believe that the Undertaker, with his huge influence on the wrestling industry over his long career, also deserves a similar section. There is no doubt that he brought in the dark-side/ mystique into wrestling characters/ gimmicks while showing a lot of evolution in his wrestling style with great matches all over his career that youngsters would study, and also bringing about many gimmick matches such as hell-in-a-cell, casket, body bag match, etc and pushing a lot of careers such as Kane, Mankind, Austin, Lesnar, Angle, Batista, Edge, etc. Also the facts that most WWE wrestlers themselves call him the greatest over (Kurt Angle said it in an interview, so did most others in the "This is My Yard" DVD), Jim Ross calls him the most respected wrestler in the history of the business, etc. These facts need to be covered somewhere. - Mayankeagle (talk) 08:26, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

His birthday is march 24! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.77.174.206 (talk) 07:04, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

Hey everyone! I know this is like a year out of date and no one will see this but I have finally got around to working on The Undertaker character section and think it's pretty much complete to perfection. Let me know if you think any other details need to be adding? AmericanDad86 (talk) 08:42, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

Looks like my work on "The Undertaker character" section gathered some mainstream media exposure, everyone. lol! [1]. All this week, its been the first thing that pops up on Google when you write in "The Undertaker." Maybe we could add a passage about myself in The Undertaker's article since we now have a source for my being the "hero" of his Wikipedia page, earning him the title of most edits in Wikipedia. I would say I am notable. :P AmericanDad86 (talk) 04:03, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

Congrats on getting some recognition!LM2000 (talk) 06:41, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

Haha! Thank a lot LM2000. =D AmericanDad86 (talk) 15:54, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

Mark Calaway was born in 1962, not 1965 as this site and IMDB claim. Proof of this can be found in the Wrestling Observer Newsletter.

Semi-protected edit request on 15 July 2015

103.36.50.133 (talk) 13:47, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

Not done: as you have not requested a change.
If you want to suggest a change, please request this in the form "Please replace XXX with YYY" or "Please add ZZZ between PPP and QQQ".
Please also cite reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. - Arjayay (talk) 13:59, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

Slammy Award for The OMG Shocking Moment of the Year (2014)

Slammy Award for The OMG Shocking Moment of the Year (2014) – Brok Lesner Defeating The Undertaker's WrestleMania streak at WrestleMania XXX. Taker wins nine Slammy Award — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.90.161.22 (talk) 05:15, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

The Undertaker Slammy Awards

The Undertaker Wins nine Slammy Awards, not eight. 5.90.174.233 (talk) 15:28, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

I have changed the lists at The Undertaker#Championships and accomplishments to numbered ones so you can count them yourself. What is missing? Ranze (talk) 11:30, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 30 September 2015

Hey, can you change the picture of the Undertaker or Mark Calaway and update it with a more recent picture? Thanks. Technogeek98 (talk) 01:55, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

Not done: Please make your request for a new image to be uploaded to Files For Upload. Once the file has been properly uploaded, feel free to reactivate this request to have the new image used.
Please note that the picture must not be copyright, which excludes almost all images that you find on the internet, in magazines etc., and you will need proof that it is not copyright, just saying it is not copyright is not acceptable. - Arjayay (talk) 09:51, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

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Why in god's name is the Undertaker's entire WrestleMania record listed under "Championships and accomplishments"?

There is already an article covering the Streak in detail. The WrestleMania record was already removed from the "Championships and accomplishments" section, but SethAdam99 restored it, saying: " 'The Streak' article is about his winning streak and This table is his win and loss record at WrestleMania... two different things but similar". Well, that makes little sense, because the overall record is just like everyone else's now - tainted. The Streak itself is the accomplishment, so I propose linking the Streak article within "Championships and accomplishments", because listing the entire WrestleMania record is just... ugh. 82.132.227.146 (talk) 17:28, 26 December 2015 (UTC)

I don't think it should be there, either. Percival Pringle (talk) 12:33, 27 December 2015 (UTC)

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Proposed removal of BLP issues

Could another admin remove the following BLP violation unsourced text from the "Personal Life" section: "Calaway was once also involved in a backstage controversy with Shawn Michaels. Calaway had threatened Michaels that he would get beat up by Calaway if he didn't put Stone Cold Steve Austin over cleanly, in their match at Wrestlemania XIV.[citation needed] Following the threat, Michaels did lose cleanly to Austin." -- Ricky81682 (talk) 08:19, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

 Done Ping to protecting admin Coffee, who may revert this without consultation if they deem necessary. — xaosflux ^Talk 12:48, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

Will it be fine to put that information back if I find a reliable source, possibly a youtube video (no copyright) or some other reliable source specified on the reliable sources page..?? --Akash3141 (talk) 22:27, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

You will have the best chance of success if you first post here on the talk page what you want to insert and what source you want to cite rather than just re-adding it with a different source. Kendall-K1 (talk) 23:46, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

Okay I found a source: ' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_89ATkZPNg ' It isn't copyrighted or anything so i'm sure this should be okay to use... --Akash3141 (talk) 18:59, 12 February 2016 (UTC)

What do you mean it's not copyrighted??? It's an interview on Off the Record with Michael Landsberg uploaded by a non-verified youtube channel. Beyond that, I'm not sure what use an alleged backstage brawl has in an encyclopedia, especially the "Personal life" section.LM2000 (talk) 20:44, 12 February 2016 (UTC)

Youtube as a source

I'm not very happy with all the puffery that's sourced to Youtube. This verges on WP:OR, has potential copyright problems per WP:YOUTUBE, and is not properly cited per WP:CITEVIDEO. It reads more like a late-night infomercial than an encyclopedia. And as that last guideline says, "Editors should also consider if the content being referenced is truly encyclopedic if the best citation that can be made points to YouTube." Kendall-K1 (talk) 15:33, 16 February 2016 (UTC)

The person adding these is a long-term problem user here. Thanks for helping keep him in line. B. Mastino (talk) 18:56, 16 February 2016 (UTC)

"Legal Actions" section about the Meek Mill Lawsuit is completely nonfactual and cited with unreliable sources!!!

It is completely untrue that The Undertaker sued Meek Mill for sampling The Undertaker's entrance music. Firstly, Meek Mill released the track on SoundCloud and has not made a profit off of it and therefore cannot be sued for the sample. Secondly The Undertaker does not own any rights to his entrance music, it is a composition by Jim Johnston, based of a traditional melody, whose rights are wholly owned by WWE.

Finally, the sources cited are completely unfactual and unrelieable sources - Huzlers and TMZ, the first of which contains completely made up quotes from The Undertaker. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.141.11.11 (talk) 14:11, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 5 April 2016 - His new billed weight is 309 lbs

As of April 3, Undertaker has been billed as 309 lbs.

Source: http://www.wwe.com/superstars/undertaker 2.100.180.150 (talk) 10:09, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

Done - Thank you for your contribution to Wikipedia. fredgandt 04:34, 8 April 2016 (UTC)

Add new line in Entrance Themes

Add one of Undertaker theme's Kid Rock - Cowboy used in 2000

Ref 00;59 Undertaker Entrance — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheMystiK (talk • contribs) 00:40, 22 April 2016 (UTC)

The Theme Undertaker used in 2000 was a remix of sorts of American Bad Ass by Kid Rock not Cowboy. Cowboy was remixed and used in WCW by Jeff Jarrett. Taker never used Cowboy.

Chris "WarMachineWildThing" (talk) 20:53, 22 April 2016 (UTC)

Legacy + Luchas De Apuestas

Firstly, shouldn't there be a section entirely JUST for UT's legacy because there is soooo much that can be said. IMO, the current legacy section isn't good enough. Also, I noticed in UT's luchas de apuesta record that there was a streak vs championship section. Wasn't that the case for Wrestlemania 24 too, when he battled Edge?2A02:C7D:BF3C:3900:CCDD:1B3B:6B00:8201 (talk) 14:43, 5 May 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 June 2016

There's a slight spelling error in the "Big Evil" section that says "unidsputed" and not "undisputed." Therefore, this error should be corrected.

2001:8003:6005:8A00:3461:BBCD:7CB5:29B5 (talk) 11:19, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

 Done - confused me initially (easily done) as the misspelling was "unidpusted" not "unidsputed" - Arjayay (talk) 12:19, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

Incorrect naming on photos

The guy(s) getting Chokeslammed (and possibly Tombstone'd) by Taker is Curt Hawkins and not Edge. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.168.177.92 (talk) 02:18, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

Both are Zack Ryder; people changing the captions to Edge has been a consistent problem in the article. I've added notes to the source saying it's Ryder. DoubleYouSeaDoubleYou (talk) 03:43, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

Now I'm not so sure, actually. But I'm pretty sure neither one is Edge, and the chokeslam image definitely isn't. DoubleYouSeaDoubleYou (talk) 11:56, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

The images are both of edge as in both it can be clearly seen that the wrestler getting choke slammed and tombstoned has rated R superstar on his attire so it is clearly edge and not anyone else.90.220.247.83 (talk) 17:29, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

Nope, the Edgeheads both wore "Rated R" attire. The problem with allowing anyone to edit is that those who don't know their history can come in and mess everything up, while being certain they're in the right. 2A02:C7D:6A44:4600:F57B:D4FA:4128:946A (talk) 08:46, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

Move set

Who merged his WCW move set with his current WWE one and removed the "Mark Callous" from it? DO NOT do that, none of those moves are his current finishers, only ones from his pre-WWF/E days. I am not even sure when this was done or how to revert it back. Someone please fix this. Thank you. - AjaKongfan — Preceding unsigned comment added by AjaKongfan (talk • contribs) 19:21, 26 November 2016 (UTC)

Isn't it about time he got a new photo at the top of his page? That one is outdated.

Not only is the picture nearly 3 years old now with him sporting a beard he only wore for about a month, but having an out of character picture of him doesn't really do the article for The Undertaker justice. He's a wrestler that has a heavy sense of kayfabe and needs a picture of him in his ring attire. I heard the reason no one used any pictures like this was because of copyright reasons? Well, there's plenty of non wwe pictures of him in his gear from his recent little stunt with the Cleveland Cavaliers. They're all great, just google it.

I mean practically every other wrestler on wikipedia has a good picture, I think Undertaker should have something that doesn't confuse people when they look at his article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alexthesoutherner (talk • contribs) 19:44, 14 November 2016 (UTC)

I'll take care of it later today, I thought the same thing. I tried changing it about a year ago and for some reason it was reverted back, musta been copyright issues MrRe1yt (talk) 22:01, 16 November 2016 (UTC)

It seems someone has edited it back to the 2014 photo. Alexthesoutherner (talk) 14:45, 11 January 2017 (UTC)

Fixing the media mention template

So I'm not a Wiki Admin, but small question... can we remove or fix the template that is housing the media mentions? I know I can hide it but those extra blank spaces are annoying. (I can't find the template to fix.) retched (talk) 04:58, 3 April 2017 (UTC)

Not sure, may have to ask an admin about it.Chris "WarMachineWildThing" ^{Talk to me} 05:02, 3 April 2017 (UTC)

Figured with how much I see you edit and undo that you were either a Bureaucrat or Admin. No worries, it's just an eyesore. retched (talk) 05:27, 3 April 2017 (UTC)

Nope I just enjoy creating and maintaining articles. I have no interest in being an Admin. Chris "WarMachineWildThing" ^{Talk to me} 05:37, 3 April 2017 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 3 April 2017

The Undertaker has retire In 02 APRIL 2017 in WrestleMania in a match vs Roman Ring TheGeniusTk (talk) 12:45, 3 April 2017 (UTC)

Is he related to Jerry "The Ring" Lawler? InedibleHulk (talk) 13:11, 3 April 2017 (UTC)

@El C: Could you choose a different protection level for this article? Attracting template editors here won't help the article very much. -- John of Reading (talk) 13:25, 3 April 2017 (UTC)

I assume it was just a mis-click. I have updated the protection level to full. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 13:34, 3 April 2017 (UTC)

Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit protected}} template. You'll also need to provide reliable sources supporting the requested change — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 13:35, 3 April 2017 (UTC)

Not a mis-click. That category exists also to be used sometimes, too. El_C 17:41, 3 April 2017 (UTC)

See Wikipedia talk:Protection policy for the discussion. I still wanted a level below full protection. Is this a content dispute, or plain disruption by ec accounts? El_C 19:47, 3 April 2017 (UTC)

El_C At this point it's become both, As you can see by the discussions on this talk page. There has been no announcement and various users and IPs want to immediately make claims with no definitive or official source, which is disruptive to the article and is going to start edit wars at some point and violates WP:BLP if I read correctly. I figured requesting full due to the constant Unsourced additions and BLP violations "if I read BLP correctly" would keep the Article intact for a short period and give time for an official source to come forward along with keeping anyone from getting nailed for edit warring, I don't want to see anyone blocked or the article in constant disrupt over something so silly, As users have been using sandbox to get up to EC to by pass semi on other Articles that were semied I figured full was the best option to request. If that's wrong then bad on me, Do whatever you think is best for the article. Chris "WarMachineWildThing" ^{Talk to me} 20:38, 3 April 2017 (UTC)

WWE has given a reliable source. People need to learn patience. Do what you think is best. Chris "WarMachineWildThing" ^{Talk to me} 20:56, 3 April 2017 (UTC)

I'm just saying, we can keep the protection at ec and I can simply block or remove the rights of ec users that are being disruptive. Full protection is primarily reserved for content disputes, so what I'm trying to ascertain is which is the greater of the two here: disruptive editing or a content dispute? El_C 20:59, 3 April 2017 (UTC)

Does it mean the dispute is now over and I can unprotect? El_C 20:59, 3 April 2017 (UTC)

I believe the dispute was greater as you can see by the talk, but WWE has finally made a statement so it's an official source. People need to learn patience and learn to wait for Official sources. So I see no need for the full anymore. Chris "WarMachineWildThing" ^{Talk to me} 21:03, 3 April 2017 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 3 April 2017

The Undertaker has retired according to http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/39477138/the-undertaker-retires-from-wwe-after-nearly-27-years-following-roman-reigns-defeat. This should be updated. Josephrobertcox (talk) 21:10, 3 April 2017 (UTC)

As there were already several discussions taking place on this matter on this talk page there was no point to adding another, please see above talk discussions. Chris "WarMachineWildThing" ^{Talk to me} 21:17, 3 April 2017 (UTC)

 Done. El_C 21:20, 3 April 2017 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 3 April 2017

The Undertaker announced on his Twitter that WrestleMania was his retirement match. Taker has officially retired, and that has been confirmed by WWE Hall of Famers Jim Ross, Jerry Lawler and JBL. 144.118.77.30 (talk) 16:50, 3 April 2017 (UTC)

Taker doesn't do twitter first off and second no reliable or Official source has stated he is or has retired.Chris "WarMachineWildThing" ^{Talk to me} 18:48, 3 April 2017 (UTC)

Already  Done below. El_C 21:21, 3 April 2017 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 3 April 2017

Please enter retired american professional wrestler. Thanks Ahmadzuhri (talk) 21:33, 3 April 2017 (UTC)

 Done. El_C 21:40, 3 April 2017 (UTC)

"Resurgence"?

The title of the last section of his career sounds too "fantasy"-like and favorable POV. I think it should be replaced with "Post-streak appearances". MonsterHunter32 (talk) 23:08, 3 April 2017 (UTC)

All sorts of mundane things have resurgences. "Resurrection" would be the cheesier choice. I think it's important to have some sort of indication that it wasn't all downhill after Lesnar. InedibleHulk (talk) 12:34, 4 April 2017 (UTC)

Undertaker Retired at WrestleMania 33

He is going to have the Hip replacement Sc30002001 (talk) 04:48, 3 April 2017 (UTC)

This is not confirmed. Yes, he did the "swan song" of putting his gear in the ring. But it is not the same as a statement. Look at how many times Terry Funk swan song'd at an event. This is NOT a confirmation of his retirement and should NOT be treated as such until a statement has been made by him or WWE. retched (talk) 04:50, 3 April 2017 (UTC)

Until there is an official announcement that he has or is retiring it is unsourced and in violation of BLP. Chris "WarMachineWildThing" ^{Talk to me} 04:51, 3 April 2017 (UTC)

• Undertaker is not Terry Funk I truly believe he is done. None the less I don't mind waiting. Sc30002001 (talk) 04:54, 3 April 2017 (UTC)

Jim Ross said the deed to the yard has "indeed" changed hands, but as as the WWE Universe was in Florida at the time, Taker and Reigns still need to complete the quitclaim deed, bring it to a property appraiser or tax collector (state, not federal) and pay the filing fee. It's normally a simple matter, but complicated here by Taker exiting through the entrance trapdoor after the last match of the night, likely sealing himself beneath the stage till Raw at the earliest. InedibleHulk (talk) 13:10, 3 April 2017 (UTC)

The Undertaker retired on 02 April 2017 at Wrestlemania 33 after being defeated by Roman Reigns in the main event. His final score in Wrestlemania now stands as 23-2. Brock Lesnar was the first person to defeat him in Wrestlemania 30. Workdesk89 (talk • contribs) 13:19, 3 April 2017 (UTC)

No reliable or Official source has stated he is or has retired. Every site listed says may have or could be,. Neither of the sites you listed say yes he said he retires because he hasn't yet. Until it comes from Taker or WWE, then it's all rumor I and speculation. Chris "WarMachineWildThing" ^{Talk to me} 18:55, 3 April 2017 (UTC)

Many WWE stars and The Undertaker's wife have confirmed his retirement on social media, with some of the posts being collected by the WWE and published on their website. Dave Meltzer, a noted wrestling journalist also said that it was The Undertaker's last match in a review of the show. Danrod96 (talk) 20:41, 3 April 2017 (UTC)

References

I suggest waiting for a clear announcement of retirment by him on a WWE show or by WWE itself either on a show or its website. MonsterHunter32 (talk) 23:12, 3 April 2017 (UTC)

Protection lifted

Have at it! El_C 18:29, 4 April 2017 (UTC)

This was clearly a mistake, nothing constructive is being made with the article. Just a bunch of edit warring over retirement.★Trekker (talk) 22:42, 4 April 2017 (UTC)

Well, that's gonna stop. El_C 00:44, 5 April 2017 (UTC)

I know, eventually, but for now it's going to be annoying.★Trekker (talk) 00:47, 5 April 2017 (UTC)

Semiprotected for a week

Well, that didn't last long. IPs and new accounts are welcome to make edit requests here, on the talk page. El_C 05:17, 5 April 2017 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 4 April 2017

Make Mark's retirement from wrestling a subheading? Thursby16 (talk) 11:12, 4 April 2017 (UTC)

The extent of current text is "After the match he left his gloves, coat, and hat in the center of the ring." Hardly seems worth splitting off. Probably best to just mention this means he retired, and retitle the section "Resurgence and retirement". I can't imagine there'll be much more to say, career-wise. InedibleHulk (talk) 12:30, 4 April 2017 (UTC)

 Note: Marking as answered. JTP ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:33, 5 April 2017 (UTC)

"While performing as the Punisher ..."

This bit needs expanding. It doesn't even mention that he wore a mask! Did content get blanked at some point? (As happened with the WCW section at one point) 79.181.143.164 (talk) 14:14, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

Manager

The Undertaker was managed by Brother Love until, at least, Royal Rumble 1991. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.190.40.32 (talk) 22:06, 5 September 2016 (UTC)

It's listed under managers, so not sure what your question/issue is? Chris "WarMachineWildThing" ^{Talk to me} 23:58, 5 September 2016 (UTC)

Is it true that your manger is your dad all along???? Zurigirl100 (talk) 02:32, 8 May 2017 (UTC)

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Sources for his ancestry

Calaway is listed as Irish and Native American in the categories. Are there any sources for that??Fylindfotberserk (talk) 09:57, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

G.O.A.T

There are a lot of people who say the Undertaker is the greatest Superstar ever. Vince has even said do himself. Should we mention that he is the G.O.A.T? FlashGaming (talk) 17:31, 8 August 2017 (UTC)

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Wrong wrestler labelled in finisher pictures.

For the pictures of the Tombstone Piledriver and Chokeslam, the wrestler labelled is Zack Ryder but it is Edge. De4d1y (talk) 11:43, 30 September 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 December 2017

In the boxing & MMA Section, when the Undertaker told Lesnar "You wanna do it?" , it actually turned out to be a work by Vince McMahon to get hype for Lesnar's supposed return to WWE, which fell out due to his loss 156.223.11.159 (talk) 21:47, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

 Not done. I'd definitely add this but it has to be reliably sourced first. CityOfSilver 21:52, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 19 December 2017

In the legacy section it states that the Undertaker is one of two active guys who has wrestled for WWE since the 90s. However the Big Show and Triple H should also be included. 89.234.98.94 (talk) 11:55, 19 December 2017 (UTC)

 Partly done. I'm thinking the Big Show was left off because there was a two-month period in 2007 where he wasn't with WWE. I re-wrote a little bit and added Triple H. Please have a look and feel free to request any further changes you think are needed. CityOfSilver 21:14, 19 December 2017 (UTC)

Undertaker On Raw's 25th Anniversary

The Undertaker is Confirmed for the 25th Anniversary of Raw Trevor800 (talk) 17:18, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

•  Done, added it to the article. I'm surprised nobody did it sooner, considering the announcement was made back in October 2017. Quickfingers (talk) 15:53, 16 January 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 31 January 2018

Please remove "widely" from second paragraph - a repeated addition that is not supported by the source. 169.54.92.133 (talk) 06:19, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

 Done Spintendo ᔦᔭ 09:11, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 19 February 2018

Since WrestleMania 33 and Roman Reigns have already been mentioned in the section, they don't need to be highlighted again. 2A02:C7D:2588:7000:98E0:48C:C2EE:A934 (talk) 23:36, 19 February 2018 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. —KuyaBriBri^Talk 15:23, 20 February 2018 (UTC)

Career

He is neither retired nor semi-retired he did same at the time of Wrestlemania 30 by returning at Mania 31. he did it again and doesn't mean you people put the title semi-retired or retired word for Undertaker. CK (talk) 17:48, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

@Kuyabribri: after i read your messages above, you posted on February 2018, I must as that ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THAT ISSUE? CK (talk) 18:48, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

Retired?

The lede says he is a "retired American professional wrestler", but I haven't seen anything official to support this. Online speculation doesn't count. 2A02:C7F:8E16:8300:EC67:E469:DFEB:924F (talk) 18:14, 5 April 2017 (UTC)

He unfortunately retired at Wrestlemania 33 Itsmevinnie (talk) 09:12, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

• ^ No. That is simply not true and is entirely speculation. There has been no official announcement that he has retired. Its very likely, yes, but until WWE or Taker himself officially says he's retired then the forward shouldnt state that. 72.161.84.139 (talk) 04:46, 6 May 2017 (UTC)

STILL no confirmation from Calaway or WWE regarding a retirement. Meltzer doesn't decide who's retired - the wrestlers themselves do. Wikipedia is again just reporting garbage. 2A02:C7F:8E0C:6600:B0F6:ED7F:A212:3C20 (talk) 20:12, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

Don't take Wikipedia as a reliable source, because it's WP:NOTSOURCE. The retirement wasn't confirmed on air, but lots and lots of sources did so. Nickag989^talk 20:27, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

Yeah, holy Meltzer said it. Nothing from Calaway or WWE. It's tennis season: that's the equivalent of John Inverdale just deciding that Roger Federer has retired, despite no statement whatsoever from Federer or the ATP. Terrible stuff. 2A02:C7F:8E0C:6600:B0F6:ED7F:A212:3C20 (talk) 21:28, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

I have changed it, as well as the last section of his career, as he has not officially retired. Vyselink (talk) 11:22, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

I have removed references to "retirement", as they are not only unconfirmed by WWE/Undertaker, but unsourced. Regarding the infobox refs given to support his "retirement", the WWE one says absolutely NOTHING about retirement, while the BBC cite says, non-committally, that he "seems to have retired". There's a ref from The Sun claiming that Taker has retired, but since it's from Britain's very lowest tabloid asswipe, I think we can safely (dis)regard it as unreliable. When WWE or Calaway himself says the Undertaker is done, we'll re-add the retirement stuff. Leoni98 (talk) 08:42, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

He is still listed as an active competitor at WWE.com. He's not listed as an alumni. No evidence that he is retired. 82.132.223.107 (talk) 11:31, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

@Leoni98: Yeah that's what I'm trying to do also at WrestleMania 34 as it mentions that "Presumed to be retired at Mania 33" which I'm trying to remove but no body will listen. According to me, It's just a propaganda in real life. We say WWE is fake, so people want to prove that WWE is nothing but a joke. i.e why the retirement rumors were made by publie but neither by company no by deadman. Retirement word used only one time at a time when HBK was advising to Roman Reigns which people took it as retirement after the loss of deadman at Mania 33. he just left his gears just as John Cena left his armband at SummerSlam 2016 after losing to AJ Styles. wwe.com hasn't updated any of statement regarding any retirement even deadman not by himself. not even semi-retirement. brie bella is semi-retired upon her mentioning and announcement but not by people. CK (talk) 19:02, 9 April 2018 (UTC)