Talk:Steve Kean

Stats table

There is no need whatsoever for a secondary managerial stats table which lists only Premier League matches - no other manager has it, and I feel it is being used to push an agenda to portray Kean as "Blackburn Rovers worst Premier League manager 'ever'" (direct quote, from User talk:RoverTheBendInSussex). A small disucssion over at WT:FOOTY appears to back this up. GiantSnowman 16:45, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

Against consensus and without merit, I don't see why this table needs to be included and I can't think of any valid reasons why it should be included. Adam4267 (talk) 11:46, 13 December 2011 (UTC)

Moved from WT:FOOTY

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Just a quickie regarding the stats table on Steve Kean. There is presently a note underneath the table stating that it includes Premier League games only. But should this be the case? I don't think I've seen any other tables in managers' articles that account for league games only. Cheers, Mattythewhite (talk) 01:29, 10 December 2011 (UTC)

I agree - as far as I can see, the norm is that the table should include all first-team matches and should tie up to a reliable source such as Soccerbase. As the Soccerbase stats don't show the league and cup matches separately, the table in the article must include a degree of Original Research. I have corrected the table in the article, and have invited User:RoverTheBendInSussex, who insists that cup games don't count, to contribute to this discussion. -- Daemonic Kangaroo (talk) 06:50, 10 December 2011 (UTC)

Seconded, it should be all game he is manager for - after all, that is what Soccerbase, normally used as a source for manager games, includes. GiantSnowman 11:34, 10 December 2011 (UTC)

As I don't wish to get involved in a edit war, can someone else take a look at this article. There are now two stats tables; one of all matches and one of league only. User:RoverTheBendInSussex justifies the inclusion of the latter with the edit summary: "There is a need for the second table. It is very relivant(sic) to the current climate at Blackburn Rovers." so I guess he wants Kean out. -- Daemonic Kangaroo (talk) 16:13, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

Table removed, I've also had a word with the editor in question. GiantSnowman 16:22, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

User refuses to listen & continues to revert, what should be our next move? GiantSnowman 16:51, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

Theoretically it would be WP:ANEW if it continues. That said, Daemonic Kangaroo has merged the tables, which presumably means he supports keeping the content. Given the explicit agenda behind the PL-only stats, and the lack of a direct reference, I'd remove them again, but it's not so urgent that it can't be left for a few days to see if your talk page comment gets any replies. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 14:19, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

I don't really support having two tables, but I didn't have the stomach for a fight with someone who made it quite clear that he was not going to listen to reason. Unfortunately, I've been in bed with (man)flu, so I'm not thinking very straight. I will go along with the consensus. -- Daemonic Kangaroo (talk) 16:52, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

I favour one table with every match, not one table split in two, and certainly not two tables. I suggest we try & come up with consensus on the article talk page, so that we can then implement it.GiantSnowman 10:23, 13 December 2011 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Hatnote needed

For the economics and finance professor, see Steve Keen.

86.40.207.132 (talk) 22:14, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

 Done ★☆ DUCKISJAMMMY☆★ 22:33, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 10 February 2015

Steve Kean is no longer the coach of the Brunei Darussalam national team, Mike Wong Mun (Brunei's Technical Director) is the stand-in national coach: http://www.bt.com.bn/sports-national/2015/02/03/brunei-compete-world-cup-qualifiers. Spf1885 (talk) 14:03, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

Have you got a link that references Steve Kean as having actualy left, the article linked states that Mike Wong Mun is a stand in coach but doesnt specify hes actually taken over the position due to Steve leaving, this cold be a temporary measure from the information available. Amortias (T)(C) 09:32, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

Not done for now: please feel free to resurrect this request (by changing answered=y to answered=no in the first line) if/when there is a reliable source - Arjayay (talk) 14:55, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

'The Celtic wiki' should not be included in external links, as it is not a reliable source of information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.63.248.19 (talk) 19:23, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

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