Talk:Spring green

Merging spring green into article on green

The following information is copied from the discussion page of the article on green:

Object--spring green is at 150 degrees on the HSV color wheel and green is at 120 degrees. They are separate and distinct colors as different as red and orange or as orange and yellow (those colors are also 30 degress from each other). Spring green is a very important color because it is one of the 12 basic colors of the HSV color wheel at 30 degree intervals from each other (the 12 colors are: red,orange,yellow, chartreuse, green, spring green, cyan, azure, blue, violet, magenta, and rose), and therefore spring green should remain in its own article since it is one of the 12 colors and is therefore a color of notable significance in its own right. There are also HSL Color Charts for calculating rough ballpark figures for the hsv (hsl) values for any color. The charts are halfway down the website. There are 12 charts, one for each of the 12 colors: W3C TR CSS3 Color Module, HTML4 color keywords HSL Color Charts: Keraunos 10:01, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure I follow here. Who are you objecting to? Is someone trying to merge these? Wrad 15:00, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

I still don't understand. What do we need to do that we're not already doing? I don't see anything here about spring green. Wrad 05:51, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Jacobolus wanted to merge spring green into green. It is posted at the beginning of the article on spring green. I think this is an extremely bad idea because spring green is one of the 12 basic HSV color wheel colors at 30 degree intervals from each other (all other colors are made from a combination of these 12 colors with each other or with white or black) and therefore spring green deserves an article in it own right. Keraunos 06:05, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Besides, the article on green is so long there is no room for any more colors. Keraunos

OK. Wrad 06:06, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Persian green

h = 135° for #00A693 is a mistake: it may not be less than 150°. Do not forget to fix the same at shades of green #Persian green, please. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 04:24, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

Yellowish Green

According to the xkcd color survey results, colors that users labeled "spring green" averaged out to #a9f971, which is a yellowish green. This approximately matches the crayon that Crayola labeled "spring green" in the 80s, which was likewise a yellowish green. These sources both seem to be in stark contrast with the article. --User:Jonadab, 2018 Apr 18 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.213.116.3 (talk) 21:35, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

Zomp link

The link to broken link in section Zomp seems to be broken. I will change it to good link. If I have done wrong, feel free to revert, as long as you state why.

Vkb123 (talk) 12:38, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

Two Definitions

It is misleading to have the X11 definition of Spring Green override the traditional definition. Teach the controversy, if we must, but the yellow-green version mentioned by other contributors is better established (Maerz and Paul), popular (xkcd color survey) and intuitive (what color green is one most likely to see in springtime?) The article lists the scientific definitions of the name and the original establishment date of 1766, but no mention is made of the original/prevailing definition unless you dig through the footnotes.

The X11 list may have been an industry standard, but it is largely obsolete, and the general public have never heard of it. It has multiple different versions with unclear authorship, and it correlates very poorly to other color standards and references. It is wrong to use it as a major color reference just because Wikipedia was created by more web designers than color theorists (See also "Rose").

Here's a note from one of its few named authors, Paul Raveling: "BTW, I wanted to find ANSI standard colors, but ANSI happily gobbled my $16 without sending the specification I ordered, Then they ignored my followup letter. Nuts to ANSI & "ANSI standards"."

"Jade" and "Turquoise" are better traditional color names between Cyan and Green. Jobilt (talk) 19:24, 9 January 2019 (UTC)Jobilt

References

Agreed - the article seems to be treating X11 as the definitive source for what constitutes "spring green". If this was ever an "industry standard", what was the scope of this standard? I would have thought it to be restricted to certain computing contexts, and not have had much impact on what artists or the general public think of as "spring green", or what is known as "spring green" in (for instance) the paint industry. For the record, I first came across it, albeit as "spring" rather than "spring green", in the VisiBone colour chart; here it is midway between green and yellow (hue 90°).

Furthermore, what's this about in the infobox?

SCC–NBS descriptor Vivid yellowish green

This is in blatant contradiction with the rest of the article.

You might argue that the green-cyan and green-yellow colours are two separate definitions of "spring green", and the article is about the former. In that case, we need to address the existence of the latter definition with a hatnote. And maybe rename this article to indicate the sense it's about, unless we can find evidence that the green-cyan colour is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC nowadays. — Smjg (talk) 14:13, 28 November 2020 (UTC)

I tried to patch this up some. Feedback welcome. Dicklyon (talk) 02:19, 22 November 2021 (UTC)

As we have two articles known by the same term, I've added hatnotes. Widefox; talk 15:49, 30 July 2023 (UTC)

Factual accuracy is disputed

This article's factual accuracy is disputed. Please help to ensure that disputed statements are reliably sourced. The problem is ongoing since November 2020 Aca1291 (talk) 08:46, 23 January 2022 (UTC)

"Honeydew (color)" listed at Redirects for discussion

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