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Holy Family RC Primary edit
Boothstown, Salford, Sale or Trafford?
The pronunciation edit
What's the pronunciation? Thanks. And is it necessary to add Polish spelling and its pronunciation? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIiHobspcTE&t=4s; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y98EvmMIK4A&t=10s @Mr KEBAB: LoveVanPersie (talk) 09:41, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
- IPA for pronunciation would be a good idea, but no need for the Polish as he isn't Polish. Ilikeeatingwaffles (talk) 14:48, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
- @LoveVanPersie: To me it sounds like /jəˈɡjɛlkə/. Mr KEBAB (talk) 16:04, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
- @Mr KEBAB: Are you sure? LoveVanPersie (talk) 16:56, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
- @LoveVanPersie: If not like that, how does he pronounce his surname? Mr KEBAB (talk) 17:06, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
- @Mr KEBAB: But the commentators always pronounce a different one. Is is optional? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mA2pH-l1Ztk&t=6s; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ymq7wLmHuts&t=18s LoveVanPersie (talk) 12:45, 15 November 2017 (UTC)
- @LoveVanPersie: I can't access the first clip, but in the second clip, the pronunciation is /ˌdʒæɡiˈɛlkə/. Jagielka's own pronunciation approximates the Polish one more closely. I think we can list both of them. Mr KEBAB (talk) 12:59, 15 November 2017 (UTC)
- @Mr KEBAB: Could you access the first link again because it sounds /ˌdʒæˈɡiɛlkə/? LoveVanPersie (talk) 13:15, 15 November 2017 (UTC)
- @LoveVanPersie: Even from looking at your transcription I know that it's wrong. When using the IPAc-en template we must use the same set of symbols as Help:IPA/English does, and /i/ is used there as an unstressed-only vowel. If you really want me to hear the first pronunciation, record it with Audacity and upload it to Zippyshare. Mr KEBAB (talk) 13:40, 15 November 2017 (UTC)
- @Mr KEBAB: OK. But I just clipped the video... http://www87.zippyshare.com/v/W0zBQeZs/file.html LoveVanPersie (talk) 13:59, 15 November 2017 (UTC)
- @LoveVanPersie: Thanks. It's the same pronunciation as in the second video, so /ˌdʒæɡiˈɛlkə/. Mr KEBAB (talk) 14:05, 15 November 2017 (UTC)
- @Mr KEBAB: OK. But I just clipped the video... http://www87.zippyshare.com/v/W0zBQeZs/file.html LoveVanPersie (talk) 13:59, 15 November 2017 (UTC)
- @LoveVanPersie: Even from looking at your transcription I know that it's wrong. When using the IPAc-en template we must use the same set of symbols as Help:IPA/English does, and /i/ is used there as an unstressed-only vowel. If you really want me to hear the first pronunciation, record it with Audacity and upload it to Zippyshare. Mr KEBAB (talk) 13:40, 15 November 2017 (UTC)
- @Mr KEBAB: Could you access the first link again because it sounds /ˌdʒæˈɡiɛlkə/? LoveVanPersie (talk) 13:15, 15 November 2017 (UTC)
- @LoveVanPersie: I can't access the first clip, but in the second clip, the pronunciation is /ˌdʒæɡiˈɛlkə/. Jagielka's own pronunciation approximates the Polish one more closely. I think we can list both of them. Mr KEBAB (talk) 12:59, 15 November 2017 (UTC)
- @Mr KEBAB: But the commentators always pronounce a different one. Is is optional? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mA2pH-l1Ztk&t=6s; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ymq7wLmHuts&t=18s LoveVanPersie (talk) 12:45, 15 November 2017 (UTC)
- @LoveVanPersie: If not like that, how does he pronounce his surname? Mr KEBAB (talk) 17:06, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
- @Mr KEBAB: Are you sure? LoveVanPersie (talk) 16:56, 13 November 2017 (UTC)