Talk:Paul Nobuo Tatsuguchi

Latest comment: 2 years ago by Tatsuguchi in topic page cites to the various authors?
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Medical officer edit

Since I don't have access to any of the references, I'm a bit confused by Tatsuguchi's rank. He was considered an "acting medical officer", yet given an NCO rank? Is this true? Also, it appears that from his diary, he fought? Was he armed? Although somewhat familiar with Japanese military history, and very familiar with US Navy protocol for medical officers, what he or the IJA did seems to be in direct contravention of the Geneva articles for war. Physicians should be unarmed except for a sidearm. I don't doubt what was written in this article, but I think further clarification for both the casual and more expert reader would be helpful. OrangeMarlin Talk• Contributions 17:11, 12 May 2008 (UTC)Reply

He was an NCO as a medical officer which was unusual and clearly shows what the IJA thought of him. His diary doesn't say that he was armed or that he fought. The reference to a grenade is enigmatic. He doesn't say where he got it, if he was armed all along, or what. From what I've read in other Japanese first-person accounts of their experiences in WWII, Tatsuguchi and the other doctors were probably given the grenades and told to give them to the patients to commit suicide with once the end of the battle appeared to be near. But, that's OR on my part. None of the sources discuss the controversy over whether he was armed or not, so I'm not sure how I can discuss it in the article. Cla68 (talk) 23:45, 12 May 2008 (UTC)Reply
Then I'm a bit confused. The article seems to say he died during the final attack on an American position, which would indicate he was armed. And in one of his diary entries, it seemed to indicates that he fought when he says, he was "determined to destroy the enemy force to the very last soldier." The reason why most armies don't allow their doctors to be armed and fight (and since it's in contravention of the Hippocratic oath), is that they don't want their valuable physicians killed. I guess there's no Clint Eastwood movie to clear up the facts. And thanks for clarification of his rank. That's pretty harsh of the IJA, when they probably lacked a lot of Medical officers. Of course, I wonder what the US military would have done with him, if he stayed in the US???? Probably would have been sent to Manzanar. OrangeMarlin Talk• Contributions 02:04, 13 May 2008 (UTC)Reply

I would disagree with the contention made in the last talk entry that for physicians to engage in combat would be "in contravention of the Hippocratic oath". I don't read the oath to suggest that. A physician perhaps cannot, consistent with the Hippocratic Oath, attempt to harm his or her patient, but the HO doesn't require him to be a pacifist. Terry Thorgaard (talk) 19:05, 31 March 2014 (UTC)Reply

Wikilinked days edit

The days, e.g. 3 May are wikilinked throughout the article. I suspect this is not the recommended method for top quality articles? Good job by the way. If it succeeds the FA-nom, it will be the first Adventist WikiProject article to reach that status, as far as I am aware. Colin MacLaurin (talk) 08:13, 18 May 2008 (UTC)Reply

date of his father's return to Japan edit

Hello, I have translated this article to Japanese. When I searched Japanese sources for improvement in article quality, I found one book said that Paul's father returned to Japan in 1903 and opened a medical practice in 1904. Is it true or does anyone have an another source of this date? --Yghwtrrl (talk) 08:29, 29 October 2011 (UTC)Reply

The book is "使命に燃えて: 日本セブンスデー・アドベンチスト教会史"(Shimei ni moete: nihon Seventh-day Adventist Church kyoukaishi, Being charged with a mission: the history of Japanese Seventh-day Adventist Church) in page 93. --Yghwtrrl (talk) 08:34, 29 October 2011 (UTC)Reply

Sources edit

Hi, I translated this article in italian and I saw that in the last paragraph there are no sources. I need some ones... does somebody knows where I can find them? --Toadino2日本 Would you like mushroom tea? 10:26, 6 March 2014 (UTC)Reply

Ref improve tag edit

I've added the "Ref Improve" tag to this article owing to a severe lack of sources, particularly in #Family legacy. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 16:12, 22 March 2014 (UTC)Reply

[1] I removed all the unreferenced text and the tag. Someone added it some time ago and I left it because, frankly, I didn't think it was that big of a deal. However, I agree that an article that appears on the main page needs to be impeccable in its citations and formatting. Cla68 (talk) 11:10, 23 March 2014 (UTC)Reply

Taeko Tatsuguchi's obituary edit

Taeko passed away in Los Angeles on June 1, 2011 at the age of 98. Perhaps someone would like to add this info and include the link below or other appropriate citation. I'm not sure how to do it.

You can also search for her in the Social Security Death Index to confirm.

http://www.ancientfaces.com/person/taeko-tatsuguchi/90386144 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.102.78.114 (talk) 12:16, 4 September 2014 (UTC)Reply

first name of his father edit

主一 is usually pronounced Shuichi in Japanese. We can confirm that his family called him Shuichi by his son's Passenger List in 1929. Esatake (talk) 05:31, 15 September 2016 (UTC)Reply

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page cites to the various authors? edit

Whatever rationale is used in citing various pages to the various sources is beyond me. Some authors have no pages mentioned. At other points we see several sources listed, but only one set of page refs. What's up? – S. Rich (talk) 04:44, 2 June 2020 (UTC)Reply

The web sources don't have page numbers, thus, no page numbers in the citation. Some citations are from web and book sources, so there are page numbers for the latter. Tatsuguchi (talk) 18:40, 9 December 2021 (UTC)Reply