Talk:Paul Hornung

heisman

It probably doesn't belong in the article, but the incidence of a player, even a stellar one like Hornung, winning the Heisman on a 2-8 team has often been cited as an example of the bias of sportswriters of that era in favor of Notre Dame, particularly by the fans of the University of Tennessee, whose single-wing tailback Johnny Majors led that team to a 9-1 mark, and, like Hornung, had other skills (was one of the best punters in the nation, among other virtues), and also had good passing and rushing stats.

Speaking of bias, what about Jim Brown? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 111.118.138.25 (talk) 00:45, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Article claims Hourning is the first Heisman trophy winner to play pro football, but this is not true (https://www.heisman.com/articles/heisman-winners-in-the-nfl-draft/). Is he the first to play in a super bowl? First to win an NFL championship?

Books

Wasn't Paul's book Golden Boy published in 2004, not 1984?

Also, should the 1965 book he co-wrote be included: Football and the Single Man by Paul Hornung and Al Silverman?

Notre Dame Comments

We are not at risk of libel because he is a public figure. I think it should be mentioned that Notre Dame's team has improved significantly without any seemingly racist recruiting policy. It should also be noted that his comments about the race of Notre Dame's athletes comes from a man who is a rarity because he is a white running back.

LT Touchdown Record: POV Issue

Take a look and see if the last part of this phrase needs to copy-edited and/or deleted for POV issues.

"The record stood through the 2005 season; but on December 17, 2006, San Diego Chargers running back LaDainian Tomlinson broke the record with 180 points on 30 touchdowns, leaving him with four points more than Hornung's record with more than two games to play. Hornung claims that Mr. Tomlinson has not really broken his record based upon the NFL season comprising 12 games in Hornung's time. It is noteworthy that Hornung's Half Back/Kicker position is not customary in the current era. Hornung asserts that a points-per-game comparison is more appropriate."

Wondering... WAVY 10 16:03, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

I'm probably going to be found dead under a pile of cheese...

But the opening of this article was, and the article itself is still, WAY out of line with WP:NPOV, ESPECIALLY without citations to support the assertions. Tossing around superlatives like "greatest," "one of the greatest," "most," and other such terms is not something that should be done so freely. Soxwon (talk) 00:35, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

hornung v commissioner

Paul Hornung was involved in a fairly important tax law case Hornung_v_Commissioner. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hornung_v._Commissioner it might be worth having a section here.

what was the scandal? why was he suspended? how long was he suspended?

I came to this page because I vaguely recall that Hornung was suspended from the league for a season, I thought, but all I see is this vague reference: "His penchant for high-living would prove disastrous when, in 1963, a major scandal erupted and Paul Hornung and another of the league's top stars, Alex Karras of the Detroit Lions, were suspended from football indefinitely by commissioner Pete Rozelle for betting on NFL games and associating with undesirable persons. Forthright in admitting to his mistake, Hornung's image went relatively untarnished, and in 1964 his suspension, and Karras's, were re-evaluated by the League. Both returned for the 1964 season." So what did he do? How long was the suspension? Thomas144 (talk) 15:51, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

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Personal life ?

Didn't he have a personal life?

How come nothing about it in the article?

Just curious. 2600:8800:785:2A00:C23F:D5FF:FEC4:D51D (talk) 23:29, 13 November 2020 (UTC)