Talk:Night Witches

Latest comment: 2 years ago by K.e.coffman in topic March 2022 edit

30,000 missions - 23,000 tons of bombs edit

"The regiment flew over 30,000 missions and dropped 23,000 tons of bombs.[3]"

Well that is interesting. The Po-2 could carry at best 350kg. So they must have flown at least 65.714 missions to drop 23.000 tons of bombs. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.129.233.130 (talk) 14:21, 31 May 2016 (UTC)Reply

Another cultural reference edit

One may want to add Blood, Ash, Braids from Genevieve Valentine. Its story is about the Night Witches and features a couple of the notable members of this regiment. Yogurt (talk) 22:03, 6 January 2018 (UTC)Reply

"Night Witches" in song edit

Hello. Will the information be indicated that the song about the "Night Witches" was recorded from the Swedish rock band Sabaton under the same name "Night Witches"? -- Bogolub (talk) 22:08, 6 July 2018 (UTC)Reply

Table for list of awards edit

I changed the list to a table so that it was easier to pick out the different award types. (Hohum @) 13:47, 3 November 2018 (UTC)Reply

I don't think the table is a good idea. The table makes it easy to skip over the entire table thinking all are Heroes of the Soviet Union. And it's only two colums, and not a good way to convey information. Very easy for readers to skip lines or mismatch names.--PlanespotterA320 (talk) 16:01, 3 November 2018 (UTC)Reply

Any documentaries? edit

Were there any documentary films or TB programs made in English language featuring ops of this group? Lexein (talk) 17:23, 30 April 2020 (UTC)Reply

Any docs? edit

Were there any documentaries of TV progrsms in English language about this group's ops in WWII? Lexein (talk) 17:25, 30 April 2020 (UTC)Reply

Cold welcoming edit

This all-female flying squadron was not welcomed into the military with open arms. Many of their male counterparts saw them as inferior and treated them with lack of respect.[1] The women of the regiment were also given hand-me-downs of uniforms and over-sized shoes by the men, as well as rudimentary tools (such as rulers, flashlights, pencils, etc) that lacked the "luxury" that the male soldiers received with their tools (e.g.- radar, guns, radios, etc.)[2]

This section is totally biased: it has reference to the website with no actual links to the historical documents or facts. https://historycollection.com/night-witches-women-russian-bomb-squad-terrorized-nazis-ww2/2/ I have found similar text in Russian that looks like an original used by the author but English version was changed to look like those women were treated as "inferior" and with lack of respect. https://www.marieclaire.ru/stil-zjizny/-nochnyie-vedmyi-sovetskie-letchitsyi-kotoryih-boyalis-vse-nemetskie-soldatyi/

The actual reason of providing them the men's clothes is that at that moment the army did not have women's clothes and forming of this regimen was unexpected. Also, their planes were unique so they had to invent their own instruments and devices for them so it quite natural that they were not provided with the same mech options as male pilots who used other types of planes. As for the treatment: at that time men tried to leave women in safety to defend them from the cruelty of war: of course most of them were surprised seeing female pilots but I doubt they treated women as "inferior" people. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Berg O'tooRan (talkcontribs) 12:25, 30 July 2020 (UTC)Reply


   I agree, a very strange statement and sources. Given that more than one such regiment was formed, there is at least another 587th Bomber Aviation Regiment and 586th Fighter Aviation Regiment.

References

Restarting engines edit

Is it true that the pilots had to climb out on the wing of their airplane while in flight in order to restart the engine after releasing their bombs? 173.88.246.138 (talk) 10:16, 21 October 2020 (UTC)Reply

Navigator Polina Gelman once had to do that after the bombs got stuck. But it was not a regular procedure.--PlanespotterA320 (talk) 15:40, 21 October 2020 (UTC)Reply

March 2022 edit edit

Preserving here by providing this link; my rationale was: "remove section -- a compendium of trivia and tangentially-related items; see WP:MILPOP". --K.e.coffman (talk) 05:32, 16 March 2022 (UTC)Reply