Talk:Need for Speed: Most Wanted (2012 video game)

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Kindle Fire

Did/can we put that this game was released for the Kindle Fire? Lacon432 (talk) 02:34, 4 November 2012 (UTC)

"Knows also as"

I'm noticing that people are using the short name "NFS001" (or "NFS01") instead of "NFS: MW" to identify this game, while using the last one to refer to the original Most Wanted, I don't have any sources to confirm that, though, just google it. --79.27.86.63 (talk) 10:56, 25 November 2012 (UTC)

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well add it — Preceding unsigned comment added by MaxFinkerBerg1945-2018 (talk • contribs) 12:02, 5 May 2018 (UTC) MaxFinkerBerg1945-2018 (talk) 12:05, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

Hatnotes

@The1337gamer:

I asked about the hatnotes at Wikipedia:Teahouse#Distinguish hatnotes where Joe agrees the hatnote should be OK here. Still confused about how to proceed I found Wikipedia:Edit warring which is suggesting to discuss it on the talk page. I believe the hatnotes are useful and don't hurt the articles in any way. Alexis Jazz (talk) 05:42, 14 March 2018 (UTC)

Requested move 20 July 2020

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The result of the move request was: Not Moved (non-admin closure) Bingobro (Chat) 09:14, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

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• Need for Speed: Most Wanted (2012 video game) → Need for Speed: Most Wanted (2012)
• Need for Speed: Most Wanted (2005 video game) → Need for Speed: Most Wanted (2005)

– There are only two things in existence named "Need for Speed: Most Wanted", and they are both video games. There is no need to include "video game" in the parenthetical disambiguation. Even outside the realm of topics Wikipedia has articles about, there is nothing else with this name anywhere in the world, so there is no reason a reader would ever be confused by shorter titles. In fact, including the term "video game" is a bit misleading, as it implies that there might exist something with the name "Need for Speed: Most Wanted" that is not a video game (in much the same way that using, say, "(American video game)" would imply the existence of a game from another country). IagoQnsi (talk) 15:11, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

• Support Hi @IagoQnsi: this seems to be an uncontroversial move and I see no reason as to why the title should not be amended as per your reasoning. In fact, WP:NCVG reccomends against disambiguating unnecessarily. If you do go ahead with this make sure to amend Need for Speed: Most Wanted (2005 video game) as well. Debitpixie 💬 15:46, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose as per WP:NCVGDAB. This move would go against the naming convention guideline for video games articles. TheDeviantPro (talk) 15:58, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

TheDeviantPro WP:NCVGDAB specifically says not to disambiguate unless a naming conflict exists and to keep the disambiguation as concise as possible. Here the only naming conflict is with the 2005 version of the game and the year of release should be the only disambiguation required to keep the title as concise as possible. Since there is no naming conflict between the video games and any other form of media it is unnecessary to keep that in the title. Debitpixie 💬 18:32, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

There is a naming conflict, there's two games that have the same name. WP:NCVGDAB clearly states we should should use (YEAR video game) to disambiguation between two games with the same name, this no different. Not only that this is the common naming convention for video games such as Doom (1993 video game), Doom (2016 video game), Prince of Persia (1989 video game), and Prince of Persia (2008 video game) and many more. The same as goes for films such as The Jungle Book (1994 film) and The Jungle Book (2016 film). I see no reason to go against WP:NCVGDAB and rename the article. Especially when there's no video game articles on Wikipedia that uses this type of naming convention that you and IagoQnsi are supporting. TheDeviantPro (talk) 04:00, 21 July 2020 (UTC)

All of the examples you cite only serve to prove my point. They're all video games that have other similar forms of media such as movies which necessitate the 'video game' disambiguation. There is only one form of media named 'Need for Speed: Most Wanted' Debitpixie 💬 06:14, 21 July 2020 (UTC)

How about Command & Conquer (1995 video game), SimCity (1989 video game), SimCity (2013 video game), Destroy All Humans! (2005 video game), or Destroy All Humans! (2020 video game)? where no other media uses the same titles of these examples. Not only that you still haven't provided any examples of naming convention where article titles only use the year for disambiguation. TheDeviantPro (talk) 09:10, 21 July 2020 (UTC)

Fair enough, I guess its better to maintain the status quo here simply to maintain consistency across Wikipedia. Thanks for pointing out my errors! Debitpixie 💬 16:16, 26 July 2020 (UTC)

• Oppose. WP:NCVGDAB does say to keep things as concise as possible, but only after saying disambiguation should be precise enough to identify the topic. Sole dates as disambiguation mean the topic could be anything, so it doesn't identify much. Nohomersryan (talk) 19:19, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

Sole dates as disambiguation is enough since the disambiguation is between two video games. Having 'video game' in the titles of both the articles doesn't add anything at all with respect to disambiguation. Debitpixie 💬 19:52, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

Disagree. It's only precise if you know beforehand that it's a video game. If these two need DAB, a date won't clear up much in the search box if you aren't an expert. Nohomersryan (talk) 20:00, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

• Oppose, per WP:NCVGDAB and per WP:CONSISTENCY, we also use the medium as disambiguator, not solely the year. See Shadow of the Beast and its remake Shadow of the Beast (2016 video game) (not just "(2016)") Prey (2017 video game) and Prey (2006 video game) or Wolfenstein (2009 video game), which actually is the only video game to be called Wolfenstein, let alone the one released in 2009. soetermans. ^{↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK} 08:33, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose as above per WP:NCVGDAB. Disambiguation using only years is rarely helpful. -- Netoholic @ 12:39, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose - per above. Current title is the current consensus on how to handle this. Sergecross73 msg me 01:34, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose per WP:NCDAB and WP:NCVGDAB and most importantly consistency with all the other articles. —  HELLKNOWZ   ▎TALK 16:11, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

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