Talk:Miguel Cabrera

Major clean-up needed

This page reads like it was written by a 4 year old who doesnt know crap about sports. id clean it up, but i dont have time. not to mention theres quite a bit of pov in here as well. 69.119.143.219 01:08, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

I just did a lot of work on it; I hope this helps. The personal life section still needs more information, but I fixed a lot of grammar and put all of the baseball "Facts" into the writeups on each season. --Idont Havaname (Talk) 03:24, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Girardi Quote

Anyone else think that quote seems a little out of place in the intro paragraph? It's his former manager from his former team; maybe it should go somewhere in the Marlins section. Thoughts? --TrafficHaze (talk) 02:35, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

A minor point

"he had a blood alcohol level of .26, three times the legal limit". As far as I know, there is no legal limit inside of one's one home. Is this three times the limit for DUI, public intoxication, or something else? And if that's the case, should we modify it to say so, or is this ambiguity acceptable in the service of conciseness? Stilgar135 (talk) 23:19, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

This page is incredibly editorialized and poorly written

Cabrera is putting up statistics comparable to Hank Aaron and Ken Griffey, Jr. at age 28,[2] and is considered one of the best hitters in baseball today. He is a very intimidating hitter, as he consistently hits the best pitchers in baseball. Dan Haren is quoted as saying, "You're going to make good pitches, and he's going to hit them."[3]

Needs to be rephrased, and probably doesn't go in the lead section of the page.

"Miguel began to rise through the Marlins' farm system teaming with future major leaguers Adrian Gonzalez and Dontrelle Willis. He began his professional career as a six-foot-two-inch 185 pound shortstop in the Gulf Coast League. Although he had below average speed, he had a rocket arm, above average plate discipline, and a thorough knowledge of the game. After batting .260 with 10 doubles, 2 triples and 2 home runs through 57 games, Cabrera was promoted to Class-A ball where he finished the final 8 games batting .250 with 6 RBIs."

...How do you define these things - rocket arm? Above average plate discipline? Unless you provide evidence to that effect, these are just unfounded statements that don't really belong here.

" There he teamed up with Dontrelle Willis, the left-handed fireballer with whom he would later join in the majors. In his fourth professional season, Miguel was shredding up the competition."

This page just doesn't read like it belongs in an encyclopedia. It's a lack of professionalism and a lot of editorializing.

108.216.152.226 (talk) 12:39, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

Miguel Quotes? Really?

Is that section really necessary/relevant? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.103.167.20 (talk) 15:47, 27 March 2012 (UTC) \

Why does it say Miguel Cabrera is cool?

Is that necessary/relevant?

Disputed content

The content added by this edit has been removed and re-added several times. Perhaps it would be constructive to have a discussion to determine if it does or does not belong. AutomaticStrikeout 02:39, 23 November 2012 (UTC)

A Venezuelan Winter League team does not belong in the infobox. – Muboshgu (talk) 03:13, 23 November 2012 (UTC)

Legal Matters

"It was reported that the Tigers' 2012 post-division-clinching celebration held in the clubhouse in Kansas City was not attended by Cabrera, who desired to abstain from the festivities, even though the dousing "champagne" was non-alcoholic.[71]"

This is a personal preference, not a legal matter. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.70.36.11 (talk) 01:50, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

It's related to the content before it within that section. There is no better place to put it, most likely. - Hoops gza (talk) 23:06, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

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Reverted Edit

Go to 2018. Where it says...He finished the 2018 season with a .301 batting average....I changed to .299 but my edit wasn't accepted. The inline sources did not count his last game. Baseball Reference is up to date and says .299. So does ESPN and MLB. These sources should be used and the inline sources deleted. Thank you for your time.2601:581:8500:949C:38EA:AE57:3D7A:612B (talk) 01:29, 26 June 2018 (UTC) Was done. Thanks.2601:581:8500:949C:F94A:A139:7F5B:817B (talk) 13:56, 27 June 2018 (UTC)

Claim of redundancy.

An editor made a claim here that it was "Repetitive" to indicate that a player led the Major Leagues in statistics. Suggesting by their edit that leading the Major Leagues in a category was equal to leading one of the leagues of the Major Leagues (there are both a National League and an American League). It's not. That's very basic. I'm making note of this here. I find the editor's revert to be stunningly incorrect-for an editor who edits baseball articles, it's hard to understand how they made this good faith mistake. --2604:2000:E010:1100:ECD9:58C:F10E:BE57 (talk) 23:53, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

Meh, I'm not exactly stunned that this would happen. Any editor could misread an edit or two, especially during the holiday season, as a lot of us are surrounded by distractions. It looks like you have fixed the issue. Larry Hockett (Talk) 00:08, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

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GA Review

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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This review is transcluded from Talk:Miguel Cabrera/GA2. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Lee Vilenski (talk · contribs) 11:59, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

Hello, I am planning on reviewing this article for GA Status, over the next couple of days. Thank you for nominating the article for GA status. I hope I will learn some new information, and that my feedback is helpful.

If nominators or editors could refrain from updating the particular section that I am updating until it is complete, I would appreciate it to remove a edit conflict. Please address concerns in the section that has been completed above (If I've raised concerns up to references, feel free to comment on things like the lede.)

I generally provide an overview of things I read through the article on a first glance. Then do a thorough sweep of the article after the feedback is addressed. After this, I will present the pass/failure. I may use strikethrough tags when concerns are met. Even if something is obvious why my concern is met, please leave a message as courtesy.

Best of luck! you can also use the {{done}} tag to state when something is addressed. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)}

Please let me know after the review is done, if you were happy with the review! Obviously this is regarding the article's quality, however, I want to be happy and civil to all, so let me know if I have done a good job, regardless of the article's outcome.

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Lede

• Watch out for WP:SEAOFBLUE. We should avoid putting two links next to each other, such as professional baseball first baseman. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 12:36, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
• Why do we link third baseman twice? Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 12:36, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
• He claimed the 17th MLB Triple Crown in 2012, - to the uninicated this is a throwaway for something that looks really important. Perhaps explain what this is? Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 12:36, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
• In the Venezuelan Winter League, Cabrera was signed by Tigres de Aragua at 16 years old. - reorder this sentence to state his age first so we aren't talking about his career as a whole. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 12:36, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
• professional in December 1999, at age 16 years 8 months - is his exact age important? Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 12:36, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
• There are six refs in the lede - can they not be cited in body instead? Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 12:36, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

General

• as an amateur free agent[8] and came up t - why does free agent need a dedicated ref? Surely that's obvious? Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 12:36, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
• You might want to link some American sports terms, like "farm team", "Class-A" and "All-star weekend", as the first two mean something radically different where I'm from. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 12:36, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
• Just because you've given an acronym in the lede and linked, doesn't mean you don't need to do it again in the body. Things like RBI, MLB, etc, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 12:36, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
• In his first season Cabrera batted .268 (84-for-314), with 12 home runs, 62 RBIs, 39 runs, 21 doubles, and three triples in 87 games played and received NL Rookie of the Month honors for both July and September. - unsourced. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 12:36, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
• With teammates Josh Willingham and Dan Uggla hitting behind and ahead of him respectively, Cabrera finished the year with a .339 batting average, 26 home runs, and 114 RBIs. He was selected for his third consecutive All-Star Game and won his second Silver Slugger Award. Cabrera battled the Pittsburgh Pirates' shortstop Freddy Sanchez for the National League batting crown until the last day of the regular season. Marlins manager Joe Girardi decided to bat Cabrera leadoff for the final game of the season to give him more chances to get a hit for the crown. He ended up finishing second to Sanchez. Cabrera also finished the 2006 campaign with a .568 slugging percentage and a .430 on-base percentage. - unsourced. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 12:36, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
• On July 9, 2013, he hit his 350th career home run, against the Chicago White Sox. - unsourced. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 12:36, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
• .[99][100][101][102] - WP:CITEKILL, remove one or try WP:BUNDLING. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 12:36, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
• Awards and highlights is uncited. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 12:36, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
• I'd say that section needs some words to explain what you are looking at Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 12:36, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

Review meta comments

• I'll begin the review as soon as I can! If you fancy returning the favour, I have a list of nominations for review at WP:GAN and WP:FAC, respectively. I'd be very grateful if you were to complete one of these if you get time. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 11:59, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

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