User:Et43 has made continuous edits both on this article and on Rachel Yeoh that contradict the information provided in the sources cited in both articles. The information they continuously take out is sourced, and the information they add in is not. They have accused my reverting their edits as based off of "opinion" when, in reality, it is based of the factual information given in the articles and websites used as references. I have continuously tried to engage them in conversation on their talk page to no avail. -- Willthacheerleader18 (talk) 12:28, 12 October 2018 (UTC)Reply
- I moved the discussion to this talk page and asked them to partake, but instead of discussing they continue to make de-constructive edits. -- Willthacheerleader18 (talk) 19:41, 12 October 2018 (UTC)Reply
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User:Et43, I would like to try and resolve this here instead of on your personal talk page. Please engage here instead of constantly using reverts and edits to make a point. -- Willthacheerleader18 (talk) 12:35, 12 October 2018 (UTC)Reply
Here is the original discussion:
"I have reverted your edits to Rachel Yeoh and Michelle Yeoh (socialite) because they are contrary to the information provided in the sources. Please do not change or remove information without providing the proper sources. -- Willthacheerleader18 (talk) 22:30, 10 October 2018 (UTC)"Reply
":If you have done your research properly you would know that your facts are incorrect and you have removed additional information. No source has mentioned that they are socialites. Et43 (talk) 00:22, 11 October 2018 (UTC)"
":: Hostile behavior is not welcomed on Wikipedia, so I will disregard your tone. Anyway, / this source refers to them as socialites, and / this source refers to them as fashion influencers. Not to mention they are the first cousins of Ruth Yeoh and Rebekah Yeoh (as these two are daughters of Francis Yeoh, the brother of Michael Yeoh who is Michelle & Rachel's father). The Yeoh family is of Malaysian Chinese ancestry, hence the Chinese surname. All of these points, among others you have contradicted with your edits, have been clarified through sources already provided. Your information contradicts what the sources reflect, and on Wikipedia information should be sourced and cited. -- Willthacheerleader18 (talk) 03:54, 11 October 2018 (UTC)"
":: Instead of continuously reverting edits that are based off sources, which is WP:Edit War behavior, you can start a discussion on the article's talk page and try to reach a consensus. -- Willthacheerleader18 (talk) 03:59, 11 October 2018 (UTC)"
"::: I have recommended using the talk page to reach consensus and have informed you of edit warring behavior. Your edits are non-constructive because there is no reliable information to back them up. And removing sources is not helpful. If you continue to engage in this behavior, I will request that you be blocked from editing. -- Willthacheerleader18 (talk) 18:23, 11 October 2018 (UTC)"Reply
"I have reverted your edits because they have been constructed on opinion. Your 'sources' are opinions. If you google Malaysia Tatler March 2017 cover for instance you will see that they are on the cover.You keep changing that they walked as models for the Dolce & Gabbana fashion show. If they walked as models they are models. They have also modelled for many magazines and done many features.They are not socialites, that is so derogatory of you to suggest this. They have law degrees and are heavily involved in many charities and philanthropy work. The British Fashion Council is an example of this. If you search on Instagram, you would also know.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Et43 (talk • contribs) "
":My edits are not based off of opinions, but on the articles cited in the article which are credible sources. I have no opinions on either subject. If you check the two sources for the Tatler references, one is for Malaysia Tatler and the other is for Hong Kong Tatler. The sources shows that walked in a fashion show featuring celebrities, socialites, and members of European aristocracy. They are not professional models. Socialite is not a derogatory term. I suggest you look at the article for socialite. Yet again, I ask that you stop making edits and changing information in the article unless you can provide actual sources that show that the information provided is false, which is unlikely, as the information all came from credible sources. -- Willthacheerleader18 (talk) 02:35, 12 October 2018 (UTC)"
"::I suggest you click and read the sources cited under the reference section of the article, which will reflect the information I provided. Your edits are not reflective as to what is written about these two women in any of the sources. Your continued reversions to the article are deconstructive and falsely based. I wanted to let you know that I put in a request for you to be blocked from editing. -- Willthacheerleader18 (talk) 02:46, 12 October 2018 (UTC)"
"I have reverted your edits as they are inaccurate and based on opinion. No where did I mention that they are professional models. They are models. With the rise of Instagram influencers, most are now considered models. If you search the March 2017 issue of Hong Kong Tatler you would know they are not on the cover. The cover for March 2017 HK Tatler features Larry Gagosian and Zeng Fanzhi. I suggest you check to ensure your sources and edits are accurate. -- — Preceding unsigned comment added by Et43 (talk • contribs) "
": I am moving this discussion to Talk:Michelle Yeoh (socialite). -- Willthacheerleader18 (talk) 12:29, 12 October 2018 (UTC)"Reply
- In response to your last comment, from the discussion on your talk page: Model (person) and Fashion influencer are two different professions and are categorized as such on Wikipedia. You seem to be presenting a WP:Conflict of Interest in your edits and they are disruptive. I clarified in both articles that the Yeoh sisters were on the cover of the Malaysian Tatler but were also featured in Hong Kong Tatler. I have said this before and I will say it again, do not remove information or add information without given an explanation and providing credible sources. -- Willthacheerleader18 (talk) 12:40, 12 October 2018 (UTC)Reply
