Talk:List of programs broadcast by Disney Channel/Archive 2

Archive 1

Archive 2

Show Cancelled

The show was removed from their press / PR site. This is literally how a series is cancelled. It's absolute confirmation. You don't remove a series from the press site that is ongoing. They always remove a series approximately 6 months after the cancellation. In addition, the series was removed from DisneyNow. The only time a series is removed from on-demand is when the series is complete. That is why BUnk'd is still there. Bunk'd is doing a 6th season (per production weekly).

Take Just Roll With it Down. Do not wait until May, it makes everyone here look like fools. The PR Team REMOVED the series FROM THEIR LIST OF SHOWS. You don't remove a show from your PRESS SITE UNTIL ITS OVER. https://www.dgepress.com/disneychannel/shows/

Not removing it shows you have absolutely no understanding of the television industry or what "confirmation" entails. As a veteran reporter I urge you to stop being bull-headed. 72.128.218.3 (talk) 01:24, 28 November 2021 (UTC)

I'm personally convinced by the circumstantial evidence. If there's a reliable source saying it's ongoing instead, that would preclude editorial discretion. But the entry is unsourced, period, so it's up for reasonable (and maybe polite) discussion. InedibleHulk (talk) 02:58, 30 November 2021 (UTC)

In other words, if nobody gives us a better reason not to in the next 72 hours, I'll use my veteran minotaur sway to push your proposal through. If strings must be pulled, I can do that, too. After 15 years traversing these hollowed passages, I'm not too humble to admit I've developed quite the formidably puzzling superiority complex! And take it from me, rookie, you won't get ahead in this business by SHOUTING at "FOOLS". Admins are people, too, and the one you're implicitly raving at happens to have forgotten more about protecting the children's television industry on Wikipedia from perceived vandals and edit warriors than you and me combined will ever know. You can't just show up and start "rocking the boat", in general. You gotta climb or hop your way smoothly to the top, then dive gracefully onto (or just beside) your opponent/fellow worker, using your head. Anyway, where was I? Oh yeah... InedibleHulk (talk) 05:45, 30 November 2021 (UTC)

How is Kaylin Hayman clearly stating on her Instagram story that the show is over, unreliable?

And even a director of many episodes said “series wrap”, his name is Robbie Countrynan and it’s on his Insta post from Nov 24, 2020. Peacerocker07 (talk) 05:01, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

This same situation applies to Gabby Duran too. The cast clearly knows it’s over, just look at Nathan Lovejoy’s Instagram!

And the creator of the show, Mike Alber, liked Nathan’s post about it not getting a season 3… shouldn’t that say something about the status of Gabby Duran? Peacerocker07 (talk) 05:02, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

I tried. Apparently we need a source to assume a show is finished, but none to assume it's not. Seems clearly biased toward one original research stance. Or we could wait a year. Was that arbitrary time limit pulled out of nowhere by Wikipedians, too, Amaury? InedibleHulk (talk) 05:17, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

We always assume a series is continuing after a season ends, unless we have a reliable source making a direct statement that a series has been canceled or has ended. Broadcast networks and many cable networks make this clear, while some don't. If there's no reliable source, then we wait until after one year since the last new episode. In this case, we can mark this series as over on May 15, 2022, if there are no new episodes between now and then. This is how Wikipedia has always worked. If an actor hasn't done any acting in a while, we wouldn't assume they're no longer alive. Amaury • 05:29, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

Speak for yourself. When a season ends with a retrospective, the next doesn't show up, the channel stops promoting the series and its former star and director publicly say it's done, at least three of us assume it ended. Wikipedia has always hosted baseless claims, yes, but since this claim has been repeatedly challenged and removed, I think the onus is on you to verify it, not edit war and point to unofficially accepted obscure local norms. InedibleHulk (talk) 06:10, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

Literally from Template:Infobox television: The first air date of the show's last episode on its original network. Use "present" if the show is ongoing or renewed and  () if the show is ended. Only insert the last episode's date after it has happened. In some cases the fate of a program might be uncertain, for example if there are no announcements that a show has been renewed. If such a program has not aired a new episode in 12 months, "present" can be changed to the date the last episode aired, using  (). This does not imply the series has been cancelled, rather that the program "last aired" on that date. This is to prevent programs from being listed as "present" in perpetuity. In the event that a program resumes airing after a long hiatus, such as more than 12 months between episodes or cancellation and subsequent renewal, the date is simply replaced with "present" to reflect the "current" status of the program. Emphasis mine. If you can't understand that, then that's on you, not me. The onus is on you and others who want to mark it ended/canceled to prove such, not the other way around, especially when there have already been examples of people insisting some series on Disney Channel were either over or canceled, and a while later, we got word from Disney Channel that they were renewed for another season. If you decide to continue to restore edits saying it was canceled, when that is not officially the case, you will be reported for disruptive editing and potentially blocked. Plains and simple. Amaury • 06:25, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

So this table is playing by infobox guidelines? Weird. But whatever. InedibleHulk (talk) 06:32, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

And why do you think adding your stance as invisible SHOUTY instructions is fine, but me adding visible standard tags and links to the overall content discussion here is illegal? InedibleHulk (talk) 06:59, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

Because I am not lying by making statements and saying they're facts. The notes simply say that an official source is needed to move those from current to ended. If we don't have that, we wait at least a year. Amaury • 07:08, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

Are you suggesting one of your three opponents is lying? About what? Do you have contradictory evidence? InedibleHulk (talk) 07:16, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

I am not going to repeat or keep repeating myself. I've already explained it to you. Either understand it or don't. Amaury • 07:17, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

In that case, I'll assume good faith, and how you simply mean Disney, Hayman, Countryman, Lovejoy and Alber's public explanations are less reliable than your personal opinion on their shows' statuses. InedibleHulk (talk) 07:27, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

Clearly you don't understand, or you are refusing to. Actors do not speak for the series. The only thing we can use would be an official announcement from the network, which we are lacking here. I am done discussing this, but will report if you continue to be disruptive. Amaury • 07:36, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

I understand how certain statements from these shows' cast and crew weigh more than some editor's misguided application of infobox advice on shows with uncertain fates. I respect your decision to present no sources contradicting their assertions. And I appreciate how your last hypothetical option for retaining the quite likely inaccurate version would be trying to block reasonably disagreeable colleagues. InedibleHulk (talk) 08:00, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

Hulk, you are truly incredible. Thank you for exhibiting an ability to think freely. It's appalling the strange, hardnosed rules about what is "reliable source" for TV series. It doesn't seem to be an issue with Disney+ series which is also interesting...

I agree with you entirely - the impetus is and should be on Amaury and Wikipedia to prove this show isn't over. Leaving something listed as active for 355ish more days because 1 person disagrees with a journalist, an actor, the star of the show (Kylie Cantrall) in the actor's comment section (for Gabby Duran), the star of another show in her own video (for just roll with it cancellation), a show's director, a show's creator (sorry but the actual creator of a series doesn't like posts about the series being over if it's not over), other cast members in comments similarly grieving, the required removal of series from the press website when contracts expire and people are let go of NDAs, etc seems pretty silly to me.

In my journalism I've spoken to multiple disney channel actors in the past including a Bizaardvark star (sadly not Olivia Rodrigo ha) who have explained how they remain under contract for a period and then they celebrate being "Free" 6 months to a year later when they are no longer obligated to promote their series or appear in other promo for other series.

Nathan Lovejoy being an older actor doesn't play by those rules. It's why Kylie Cantrall didn't explicitly state its over (she's protecting her relationship with Disney) but expessed her sadness through emojis. The actress who pays her mother also commented and replied to the actor who played a mom on another show about them having a "2 season parents" dinner.

It seems older actors tend to be the NDA violators because they aren't afraid of ruffling feathers.

Iunderstand that this is my word against yours, but i assure you i'm not lying, and that you are incorrect. You have tried to deflect regularly calling into question my knowledge of the industry and the hired actors who play on the show as well as the crew. It's bizarre. There is no harm in accurately reporting the series over and in the weird case it re-appeared and re-entered production you could treat it like any revival and simply change it back to "present" instead of an end date. It's weird weird weird how much Wikipedia wants to die by these very odd and somewhat vague descriptions as to what is a "reliable source" eliminating honest, accurate information because of one person insisting the information "isn't" accurate while also refusing to provide even a shred of evidence other than the re-appearance of Bizarrdvark on DisneyNow. By the way, as I promised, on December 1st Disney re-removed the completed series Bizaardvark once again leaving just its shorts. That's how it operates. The initial "removal" happens and lasts approximately 1 year, then the shows reappear briefly.

I also have access to DIsney's production lists. Bunk'd season 6 is listed. Raven's Home season 5.

Anyway, I'm done, this is a waste of my time. I will continue to extend messages to my connections in the higher parts of the industry asking them to report it. There are some rumblings that Disney doesn't want it reported and they're choosing not to to maintain their good graces.

Sorry if I disrespected you, Amaury. Didn't mean to. I just am very passionate about accurate data and believe the impetus should be on editors to prove it's NOT over versus us to prove it is... the proof it is is extreme. Also, if it wasn't Disney would be talking with so many people now reporting on it. They wouldn't just sit quietly letting people think the show was over... that doesn't help the show reruns. 72.128.218.3 (talk) 05:07, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

OH finally, if you ban me as I was warned I will just make a new account. IP addresses aren't permananet.

God this is so ridiculous, but if Mike Alber were to post something specifically saying it was cancelled, would that be different than the actors confirming it? He's the show creator, so he would know everything that goes on about HIS show. I hope he does post something soon. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Peacerocker07 (talk • contribs) 08:17, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

Also Amaury, can you explain why the actors don't speak for the series? They should know these things especially when their show is cancelled. And if any of the actors on any of these shows asked you to remove it/mark it as ended, would you listen to them?

I am so glad the people who run the Fandom Wikis know better than to mark an ended show as current.

I'm neither incredible in nature nor independent in thought, but thanks anyway. Just a tough, burnt cookie who relies on new people like you for ideas on recent edits and old people like Hulk Hogan to tell me what I stand for. Now unless I'm misreading the situation, truth has prevailed and no injustice was done, so it was nice to meet both sides in the middle of this! But there are ostensibly seven quasifictional maidens fair on my semikayfabe island paradise who might need my help defeating seven plausibly drunk and horny young Greek dudes more than you do, brother. Peace, hakuna matata and all that bon voyage goodness to all! InedibleHulk (talk) 13:21, 10 December 2021 (UTC)

Obscure blocks?

It turns out it's hard to find Magic Drawings compared to Mini Movies. Just a note to self when I was editing the page, since generic titles can be hellish with Google searching. WannurSyafiqah74 (talk) 05:49, 11 August 2022 (UTC)

The Muppet Show and Fraggle Rock

On October 5th, 1992, Disney acquired the rights to rerun The Muppet Show and Fraggle Rock after TNT lost the rights to those shows. The Muppet Show was even special since they ran the U.K. Spots that we never saw before. ~User:BuddyBoy600 (talk) 21:11:59, 12 August 2022 (UTC)

Is The Crossover a "Disney Channel Original Series"?

The Disney+ original series, The Crossover is set to premiere on Disney Channel on April 4, but the very next day on Disney+.

It was recently moved to the upcoming "originals" section on the List of programs broadcast by Disney Channel. But since it was originally announced for Disney+, isn't it still a Disney+ original? Shouldn't it be in the acquired section?

It's not very different from The Mysterious Benedict Society Season 2 premiering on Disney Channel before Disney+ and being considered acquired.

Let me know what you all think. It's prretty confusing. Peacerocker07 (talk) 18:52, 3 February 2023 (UTC)

I support keeping it as a Disney Channel Original - unlike Mysterious Benedict Society, The Crossover is premiering on the Disney Channel and Disney+ at the roughly same time starting from season 1 (hence the footnote). From more recent articles, my understanding is that The Crossover was originally announced as a Disney+ Original, then changed to be both a Disney+ and Disney Channel Original. (Unfortunately, this confusion happens a lot with Disney Branded Television shows - a show premieres on multiple Disney-owned platforms and Disney doesn't make it clear which one is the "original" and which one is the "acquisition", since they're both made by Disney studios). Nisf (talk) 20:52, 3 February 2023 (UTC)

References

Edits needed

Pup Academy should not be listed under current acquired shows - the show ended in 2019 and hasn't aired in a year at least. same for Go Away, Unicorn.

These are not "current" series at all. Both ended in 2019. ~

Why is nobody doing this? this site is a joke...

Marvel's Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur should be moved to current programming. (And this site is not a joke.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.118.141.85 (talk) 19:57, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

How is Disney 365 still listed as current?

There is nothing I can find anywhere that shows it has been on television in numerous years. In other words, it's done. I can't find any videos or evidence of it airing since the Girl Meets World era about 8 years ago. 72.135.55.191 (talk) 03:47, 16 February 2023 (UTC)

Disney365 is still a thing. Scarlett Estevez and Brandon Rossel did a Disney365 at Walt Disney World Resort in 2022 to promote Ultra Violet & Black Scorpion.

In the first few seconds of this video, you can see the Disney365 logo. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skDr3HjEceU& Peacerocker07 (talk) 03:47, 17 February 2023 (UTC)

I also think that Random Rings has been dormant over 1 year. 72.135.55.191 (talk) 05:39, 16 February 2023 (UTC)

How long does Bizaardvark need to be off the schedule to be moved back to former programming?

Bizaardvark has not been airing active reruns for quite some time now, the last one was on December 24, 2022, but the last active reruns were in spring of last year.

My question is, how long does the show need to be off the schedule to be moved back to Former programming on List of programs broadcast by Disney Channel? Peacerocker07 (talk) 20:27, 23 February 2023 (UTC)

Mickey Mouse Mixed-Up Adventures

How come Mickey Mouse Mixed-Up Adventures is listed in its "current season". The show has clearly ended. Someone needs to put it in the "reruns" category. 2603:6010:8B45:FA00:39BE:86CB:9492:703A (talk) 23:46, 14 July 2023 (UTC)

Primos Link

Can someone please add a link to the Primos article? 2603:6010:8B45:FA00:6981:7718:D0CB:8891 (talk) 22:30, 28 June 2023 (UTC)

Shouldn't we put down its release date? We already know it's gonna premiere on the 19th of January! 2603:6010:8B45:FA00:ECA9:89CA:D898:34DD (talk) 19:40, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

You need a source for that. Nisf (talk) 22:58, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

Hannah Montana aired in 2018

Hannah Montana aired during December of 2018 with the episode when Jake came back and cheated on Miley 47.4.246.214 (talk) 00:00, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

I'm in the Band 2010 airing

I'm in the Band actually aired a few times in 2010.

It won't let me add the link but look up "Disney Channel Commercials (January 15, 2010)", on YouTube and it'll show at the start of the video. 2600:8800:2CA2:CC00:6C6A:9BCB:25B:6761 (talk) 05:27, 25 September 2023 (UTC)