Talk:List of churches in London/Archive 1

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This list seems rather random, it would be nice to expand it and redlink more places. Is the City list complete? I will add more Camden ones as I am working through the listed buildings (slowly). Justinc 12:25, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

Are there any religious congregations other than Christian in London? Perhaps the article should be retitled "Religious congregations in London" and become more inclusive. See also WP:CONG Edison 19:25, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

This list is still a little random. It feels like and odd mix of boroughs (e.g Kensington & Chelsea) and smaller settlements (e.g. Rotherhithe). MRSC • Talk 11:03, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Fixed bad geography...

Removed redundant 'East End' entry, because this is already covered by Tower Hamlets. Neither Abney Park or Upper Clapton are in the East End in any case (they're in north Hackney), so added Hackney entry for these so we simply have a borough list. Also fixed the alphabetical order which was broken. Tarquin Binary 02:17, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

St George's German Lutheran Church, Aldgate

St George's German Lutheran Church, Alie Street, Aldgate, Tower Hamlets, was active from 1762 to 24th Nov 1996. It still exists in good condition but is effectively a museum, a venue for organists, and the HQ of the "Historic Chapel Association". Unless someone beats me to it, I will be writing an article on it. Will someone in authority please let me know what the title of the article should be? I favour "St George's German Lutheran Church, Aldgate"

• http://www.londonorgan.co.uk/stgeorg.htm
• http://www.genfair.com/shop/pages/ang/page06.html
• http://www.eastlondonhistory.com/germans.htm

Ogg 19:16, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Nobody has replied, so I have used that name. There seems to be no category for "Lutheran churches". Ogg 14:33, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

All Saints, Rotherhithe

According to this Diocese of Southwark website [1] All Saints, Rotherhithe is no longer 'in use for public worship' so shouldn't it be taken off the list? Sue Wallace (talk) 06:19, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

I think this article is about church buildings rather than congregations so I don't think it matters if it's still in use as a church. If the building is significant and it was a church it should stay. – SiobhanHansa 14:24, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Church of Scientology London

This article doesn't state that it is a list of Christian churches (or churches of any other religion) – so there is no reason why the Church of Scientology London at 146 Queen Victoria Street – a beautiful Victorian building – not be included in the list? I only ask because I added it a few years ago but it is no longer there. Johnalexwood (talk) 03:40, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

London Boroughs

Which London Boroughs are covered by this artical? I only ask because my borough, Hillingdon isnt mentioned yet is in London. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.231.247.132 (talk) 10:45, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Restyling

This is starting to turn into a pretty good list (although obviously the outer boroughs in particular need a lot of work), but it's still a bit of a pain to read because of all the red text. I'm proposing to standardise the list as follows and would value some input/consent/dissent. Church names – these should not be wikilinked, unless there's a wikilink for them to go to. There's too much red on the screen...

Place names – these should be a separate wikilink by themselves, so for example Brook Street Chapel, Tottenham would become Brook Street Chapel, Tottenham. Although the name of the place often features within the formal title of the church, this is rarely necessary to distinguish the church within the borough. So, in the above example, although the wikilink points to Brook Street Chapel, Tottenham, there's no need for the Tottenham bit of it to be within the wikilink. If you see what I mean. Also, in common with general WP practice, the place name should be only wikilinked the first time it appears in the borough list.

St Something – this should be standardised. I propose the following format: St Michael, Highgate – Church of England

• No full stop on the St
• No possessive apostrophe (e.g. St Michael's)
• No 'Church of St Michael' or 'St Michael's Church'

Denomination – again this should only be a wikilink the first time it appears – I propose for ease of reading, it's the first time in each borough list. For the sake of completeness, I think it's reasonable to put it in even when the clue is in the title of the church, e.g. Palmers Green Methodist Church – Methodist.

Table – might this list look better as a table, or probably series of tables?

Finally, I'm happy to do all these, over time, but sometimes local knowledge fails so there'll never be any exhaustiveness. I'd also like to check through each wikilinked church and make sure that they appear in their appropriate borough categories and the London category.

Any suggestions (very) gratefully received.ohsimone (talk) 07:11, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

On further thought, I also wonder if the section on Tamil churches might be better broadened out into a section for all non-English speaking churches....ohsimone (talk) 07:11, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

Am mocking it up in my sandbox – please comment http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ohsimone/Sandbox ohsimone (talk) 20:45, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

Right – have finally overhauled the lists. They're now in table format which I think is easier to read; locations are available as separate wikilinks; categories and lists have been synchronised; websites/addresses are available for some churches.

I think there's a fairly comprehensive listing of the following denominations:

• Non-denominational/Brethren (as per [2]
• Roman Catholic
• Eastern Orthodox of all flavours
• United Reformed Church

So still needs plenty of work, most significantly for:

• Methodist Churches
• Baptist Churches
• Church of England

but also loads more.

Question: is it necessary/helpful to put a citation for each church mentioned? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ohsimone (talk • contribs) 16:25, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

St Leonard's

Somebody added St Leonard's Church in Heston, London Borough of Hounslow. This was good information, it does exist and is a large church. However it was not inserted into the list in the correct way. I do not know how to format this correctly – please could someone add it in the correctly? Thank you. AndrewJFulker (talk) 12:53, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

Other religions and faiths

Given that London has such a diverse population, shouldn't this list be expanded to include other faiths and renamed Places of worship in London? Headhitter (talk) 15:46, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

Richmond upon Thames

I haven't included churches that don't meet in traditional church buildings but otherwise this section is now, to the best of my knowledge, complete. Headhitter (talk) 17:20, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

List of church buildings in London or List of church congregations?

Could someone please clarify if this is meant to be a List of Church Buildings in London or a List of Church Congregations in London, as, at the moment, it seems to be a mix of the two. If the former it should surely be re-titled as such, to avoid any future confusion, and also contain closed buildings, if the later it will be forever changing and never complete. Just a thought. Rocker Ages (talk) 23:14, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

The opening sentence: "London is the location of many famous churches, chapels and cathedrals... suggests that the article is really about the buildings rather than the congregations". Compare, for instance, List of synagogues in the United Kingdom and List of Jewish communities in the United Kingdom. Headhitter (talk) 14:31, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

It covers both & has no need to be more specific (any more than church articles anywhere else). Johnbod (talk) 14:46, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

No, it doesn't cover both. It is very clear in the text of the article, which states: "While there is evidently an innumerable and ever increasing number of new Pentecostal, independent and ethnic diaspora churches in London, mostly meeting in temporary venues, this list is intended to include many of the more permanent churches and buildings which identify themselves as a place of Christian worship." Likewise it refers to London's "famous churches, chapels, and cathedrals". It should include redundant church buildings (and already has some in the list), but it should not include Mrs Miggins and her next door neighbour who have set up a church in their garden shed. Timothy Titus ^{Talk To TT} 15:27, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

Does that mean we should delete the section "Churches which do not meet in traditional church buildings"? Headhitter (talk) 17:50, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

My view would be "yes". It will only ever be partial, incomplete, out-of-date, and not of any real encyclopaedic interest. The list isn't supposed to be a directory, after all. Timothy Titus ^{Talk To TT} 19:22, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

I therefore propose that it be deleted. What are others' views? Headhitter (talk) 21:08, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

In the absence of a response I've deleted it. Headhitter (talk) 20:19, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

Childs Hill Baptist Church not in Barnet table

After reviewing the Barnet section of the page, I saw on Google Maps, Childs Hill Baptist Church on Mortimer Close, easily confirmed on SV as a church of that name. Using the measuring tool, this church is 1500+' inside Barnet from its southern border. Why is it not in the table? Are there other OCBs (Obviously Church-like Buildings) similarly missing? CampKohler (talk) 00:23, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

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