Talk:Land's End to John o' Groats

Communist?

What value does adding "communist" before the name John Richard Penistan have ? Was that his first name? None of the other names are preceded by their political persuasions, so why this one ? 82.7.38.203 (talk)

Agreed. I have now deleted the word. Mike Marchmont (talk) 08:30, 17 November 2023 (UTC)

The Lady of Kenmure

This seems rather too off-topic. I've never heard of the expression John o' Groats to Maidenkirk but if it is really used other than as a quote from Burns poem then it would be better in its own article. Also the expression Land's End to John o' Groats is usually refering to the journey between the two points rather than being an alternative to saying across the whole country which would apprear to be what Burns was taking about.--JBellis 20:13, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

I've come across it elsewhere, but it is archaic. Maybe this should be at Maidenkirk. --MacRusgail (talk) 14:34, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

Interesting idea though, parallel extreme journeys. I've started a category for them, but I'm not sure if the idea will work. A German friend says there is no such route, or even concept there. I am intrigued PeterGrecian (talk) 12:49, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

External links

User:Deiz has deleted external links which I thought useful and relevant and he did not. One link was added by 134.10.12.35 on 14 Feb 2006, and was to a list of links to LEJOG reports by cyclists. The other, added by myself on 14 Dec 2007 (I think my very first WP edit!) was to a list of links to LEJOG reports by walkers, which is on a non-commercial website of mine. I now realise that under WP:EL I should not have linked to my own website, but mentioned it here instead. I know from my site statistics that at least 2 or 3 people a day have clicked through from this article to the list of walkers' sites, so others have found it a useful and relevant link.

The reason for including these links is to point to material with further reading which is likely to be helpful or informative - and to avoid the plethora of "me-too" links to personal sites of those who have completed the journey (as has happened in the past on this page).

The sites can be accessed indirectly from the www.longwalks.org.uk site (the link to which I also added in my edit of 14 Dec 2007 - and is not connected to me in any way).

Deiz does not say why he thought the links conflict with policy WP:EL, but I assume that in my case he felt there was a perceived conflict of interest. In which case I will leave it to others to comment or edit further!

The sites are also sources for unreferenced material in the article, but in the circumstances I will avoid referencing them and leave that to others too. Mhockey (talk) 16:05, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

WP:COI and WP:EL are relevant - only sites regarded as reliable, comprehensive and ideally encyclopedic in their own right should be linked. I wasn't getting that with the removed links. However, if there are clear arguments for inclusion made before re-adding, and a commitment to keep the list managed in future, I'll defer to Mhockey's judgement in the short term. Deiz talk 02:55, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

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Male Runnning record has been called into question

See:

• https://www.fastrunning.com/opinion/comment/doubts-cast-over-jogle-record-set-16-years-ago/20199
• https://www.marathoninvestigation.com/2018/10/longstanding-jogle-record-faces-new-scrutiny.html

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Welsh equivalent?

Why are there English and Scottish equivalents listed, but no Welsh equivalent? That hardly seems fair. Sslaptnhablhat (talk) 18:56, 2 February 2023 (UTC)

@Sslaptnhablhat Because no-one with the enthusiasm and a reliable source has yet come along to add it. PamD 22:10, 2 February 2023 (UTC)

In popular culture?

I was just wondering if it would be worth adding a "In popular culture" section to this article, listing novels, films, etc. that depict, a journey from Land's End to John o'Groats (or vice versa) - but only where the journey is a central theme of the work. I don't feel strongly about this. If there is no consensus in favour, so be it. Mike Marchmont (talk) 14:20, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

As there appear to be no objections to this idea, I have now added the propsed section - but I named in "Fictional depictions" rather than "In popular culture?" Mike Marchmont (talk) 17:46, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

@Mike Marchmont Fine, but remember to add sources. You can't just rely on sources in the article on the film. Thanks. PamD 07:20, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

Thanks, @PamD. I was relying on WP:PLOTSOURCE for not including a citation. But you're right. I'll look out a source. Mike Marchmont (talk) 10:28, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

Well, (a) it isn't an article about the film (which is where WP:PLOTSOURCE applies), and (b) there's no sourcing here even for the existence of the film, never mind the plot. This article tends to attract unsourced contributions, so we'd better apply the rules consistently! PamD 10:49, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

@Mike Marchmont Ah, should have checked before replying: perfect source, thanks! PamD 10:53, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

Map

It looks to me like John O’Groats is shown on the isle of Orkney and not the mainland. Ian Kershaw (talk) 09:02, 24 March 2024 (UTC)

@Ian Kershawnt, what map are you looking at? John O’Groats is definitely on the Scottish mainland.Mike Marchmont (talk) 10:42, 24 March 2024 (UTC)

@Ikershaw: Clicking on the map in the infobox and zooming it out shows the pin correctly at John O'Groats on the mainland. PamD 10:47, 24 March 2024 (UTC)