Talk:Juneteenth
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Juneteenth Name edit
There is no proper source for how this Holiday received its name.
"Deriving its name from combining June and nineteenth..." is stated as a fact without a proper source. Someone invented the name or it originated from somewhere. Something must explain the motivations to use "Juneteenth" as the holiday's name rather than creating a name for the holiday or simply calling it June 19th. 68.6.71.154 (talk) 21:17, 19 June 2023 (UTC)
- Did you read the article through? The lead summarizes the sourced content. Look in the "Early Juneteenth celebrations" section, references 34, 48 and 49. Acroterion (talk) 21:21, 19 June 2023 (UTC)
- I cant read 34 because its behind a paywall. 48 and 49 only reference the word itslef. 49 is a reference to the way black people say the holday's name. In otherwords... you can infere the proper name was June Nineteenth but the author is suggesting black people are not educated enough to pronounce it correctly.
- So, yeah I read the whole article. Nothing leads to a fact on how the holiday got its name. It seems its just a colloquial description of a Holiday that likely had a proper name and some point which was later abandoned. 68.6.71.154 (talk) 21:30, 19 June 2023 (UTC)
- Folklore is like that. It is what it is, or what it became. We can't create an origin story based on anything but the referenced fact that it was called that at the times described in the references. Acroterion (talk) 21:33, 19 June 2023 (UTC)
- Yeah that my point though... we did create an origin story based on an assumption that juneteenth was named so by combining two words. That is the statement on the page and it is not sourced. We don't even know if it's accurate. The holiday is actually called Jubilee Day - not Juneteenth until Texas ratified it as such and then our Congress. 68.6.71.154 (talk) 21:38, 19 June 2023 (UTC)
- Perhaps just change the wording to "Juneteenth possibly received its name by combining..." even though this cannot be substantiated. 68.6.71.154 (talk) 21:45, 19 June 2023 (UTC)
- There is an academic source for that sentence in lead, placed at the end of that info, so your premise seems incorrect. Alanscottwalker (talk) 15:13, 17 September 2023 (UTC)
- Perhaps just change the wording to "Juneteenth possibly received its name by combining..." even though this cannot be substantiated. 68.6.71.154 (talk) 21:45, 19 June 2023 (UTC)
- Yeah that my point though... we did create an origin story based on an assumption that juneteenth was named so by combining two words. That is the statement on the page and it is not sourced. We don't even know if it's accurate. The holiday is actually called Jubilee Day - not Juneteenth until Texas ratified it as such and then our Congress. 68.6.71.154 (talk) 21:38, 19 June 2023 (UTC)
- Folklore is like that. It is what it is, or what it became. We can't create an origin story based on anything but the referenced fact that it was called that at the times described in the references. Acroterion (talk) 21:33, 19 June 2023 (UTC)
California edit
Not a paid holiday in California 2600:1702:3E40:6680:31A3:886D:A03:E212 (talk) 01:18, 20 June 2023 (UTC)
The header photo needs attention edit
If it’s a pic of Milwaukee then why is the church in the background think it’s in Philly? 32.221.49.133 (talk) 08:20, 20 June 2023 (UTC)
- NO that is just its name Philadelphia Church of God. Slatersteven (talk) 08:58, 20 June 2023 (UTC)