Talk:John Bagot Glubb

Latest comment: 6 months ago by 2A00:23C8:7907:4B01:B586:439A:D916:CA46 in topic Propaganda

Scholar and Author edit

Glubb's writings are now at least as important as his role as a soldier. I shall add 'scholar and author' to the first sentence. His 'Life And Times Of Mohammed' and his four part history of the Arab empires are important works of scholarship. He was also a contributor to Encyclopaedia Britannica on matters of Islamic and Arabian History. For example he contributed the article on Ibn Sa'ud. I shall amend the article to mention that King Hussein gave the eulogy at Glubb's memorial service. The source for this is Trevor Royle's biography "Glubb Pasha". Sasha (talk) 16:35, 10 September 2011 (UTC)Reply

During the 1948 Arab–Israeli War the Arab Legion was considered[by whom?] Best perhaps to refer to Benny Morris's book on the 1948 War. Andygx (talk) 18:37, 11 May 2014 (UTC)Reply

Picture edit

Can we get a better picture of him? Bastie 13:36, 18 January 2007 (UTC)Reply

Propaganda edit

Contains nothing of the siege and demolition of the Jewish Quarter of Jerusalem, nor the Battle of Latrun, both of them war crimes. Added a POV tag. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Scott Adler (talkcontribs).

And I think I'll take it off. As far as I'm aware neither of those are recognised as war crimes. They might be in your opinion, though. Leithp 16:43, 22 May 2007 (UTC)Reply
And I think I'll put it back. Check with the Geneva Convention of 1949, First Protocol, Chapter III, Paragraph 53.
Art. 53. Protection of cultural objects and of places of worship
Without prejudice to the provisions of the Hague Convention for the Protection of Cultural Property in the Event of Armed Conflict of 14 May 1954, and of other relevant international instruments, it is prohibited: (a) to commit any acts of hostility directed against the historic monuments, works of art or places of worship which constitute the cultural or spiritual heritage of peoples; (b) to use such objects in support of the military effort; (c) to make such objects the object of reprisals. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.111.71.197 (talk) 19:19, 4 April 2010 (UTC)Reply
That's the basis for your opinion, then. But editor's opinions aren't important here. If you have a reliable source stating that Glubb was directly responsible for acts recognised as war crimes then put it in the article, with the relevant references. Leithp 06:56, 5 April 2010 (UTC)Reply

2023 edit

How can a document of 1949 refer to a document of 1954? Maybe the Geneva Convention of 1949 was amended later, but if so it becomes doubtful if it can properly be applied to events before the amendment.2A00:23C8:7907:4B01:B586:439A:D916:CA46 (talk) 12:08, 11 October 2023 (UTC)Reply

Baghdad pact edit

Jordan never joined the Baghdad pact, so the statement that Glub was driving force behind Jordan joining is wrong —Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.43.119.93 (talk) 07:40, 16 September 2008 (UTC)Reply

Kfar Etzion massacre edit

This article kind of slides over the fact that the Kfar Etzion massacre took place in his area of command with the participation of troops under his command, and he apparently never bothered to offer much of an explanation for this... AnonMoos (talk) 20:13, 2 July 2009 (UTC)Reply

this article is a complete white wash edit

This article needs to state the fact that Glubb helped the Arabs try to violate UN resolutions and destroy the state of Israel. He also the dictator of Jordan smother the nascent Arab state that was supposed to exist in Judea and Samaria. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.207.189.2 (talk) 17:21, 9 August 2011 (UTC)Reply

You've confused the propaganda you fell for with facts. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:8084:2843:9F00:3579:1390:6DE9:1ADF (talk) 10:58, 15 May 2016 (UTC)Reply

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Antisemitic? edit

A debate re whether Glubb can be described in wikipedia’s voice as antisemitic is taking place at Talk:Criticism of the Israeli government/Archive 1#Glub quote. Onceinawhile (talk) 07:10, 18 July 2018 (UTC)Reply

Glubb Pasha edit

The only mention of the name Glubb Pasha is in the lede. The article should include the who, where and when of its origin. Mcljlm (talk) 05:31, 6 August 2022 (UTC)Reply