Talk:Ji Yun

Requested move 06 March 2014

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The result of the move request was: moved. Xoloz (talk) 01:05, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

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Ji Xiaolan → Ji Yun – Per WP:COMMONNAME. Ji Yun is far more common than Ji Xiaolan, see Google ngram. The Chinese Wikipedia also uses Ji Yun. Zanhe (talk) 09:28, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

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• Support. The ngram seems clear, though it would be even more convincing if you could show that no other person named "Ji Yun" (or "Ji Yunxxx") is skewing the results. I also note that the sources cited in note 1 and external link use "Ji Xiaolan", so I'm ready to change my mind if necessary. Incidentally, I'm surprised that Chinese Wikipedia uses Ji Yun. As far as I know, Chinese TV shows and literary works almost always use Ji Xiaolan. Maybe the policy at Chinese WP is to use personal names (ming 名) rather than courtesy names (zi 字). But I digress. Madalibi (talk) 13:10, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

Good point. I ran a Google books search for "Ji Yun" with the dynasty name Qing, and there are 2,460 results, while "Ji Xiaolan" and Qing produces 212 results. Searches for the two names combined with the term "Siku" also show "Ji Yun" to be an order of magnitude more common than "Ji Xiaolan". -Zanhe (talk) 20:54, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

Thank you! I also ran a search for "Ji Yun" and "Yuewei" (for Ji's biji collection Yuewei Caotang Biji) and it gets 1,280 results. "Ji Xiaolan" and "Yuewei" get only 84 results. Consider my support solid! Madalibi (talk) 00:21, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

• Support However, I should correct the nominator in saying "Ji Yun" is only more common in scholastic literature. In popular usage, I think "Ji Xiaolan" is more common. But I think consistency is important and I'd like to see all historical figures use their personal names rather than their courtesy names. Perhaps Luo Guanzhong is an exception. Timmyshin (talk) 18:14, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
• Support per nom. In ictu oculi (talk) 23:04, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

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Did Ji Yun compile a work called "Xu Tongdian" 《續通典》? If so, can this information be added to this article? 173.88.246.138 (talk) 16:29, 21 April 2020 (UTC)