Talk:Italian Somaliland

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Between 1890 - 1908 the Italian faced fierce resistance from Southern Somali clans. The Dir Bimaal and Hawiye Wacdan ambushed Antonio Cecchi's party in Lafoole killing 19 Italians and hundred of native and Arab ascaris. The Bimaal spearheaded the longest resistance between 1890 - 1908. The militant Bimaal opposed Italian penetration of the hinterland of Banadir coast with the help of only their brethern the Wacdan clan. Later Sheikh Hassan Barsan, a Galjecel, whose worriors were mostly Jiido and Bimaal continued when the Bimaal were defeated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.151.7.55 (talk) 01:06, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Italian Somaliland.

The Italian colonization of Somalia began in 1889 (Vincenzo Filonardi). The Colony of Italian Somaliland was established on April 5, 1908.

The most important battle in Somalia during WWII.

The decisive battle in Italian Somaliland during WWWII took place on Gelib (Juba River) on February 22-24, 1941. The British defeated the Italians and took Mogadishu on February 27.

Somalia or Somaliland?

On the coins and banknotes of this colony, the name given is Somalia Italiana, which surely translates as Italian Somalia, not Somaliland. Anyone got contradictory evidence?
Dove1950 21:04, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

As stated above, Somaliland is an error, so I'll rename it Italian Somalia. I really wonder how this name came out.--Aldux 20:34, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

British Somaliland and Italian Somaliland was united before the colonial arrived, so they both shared the name Somaliland. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.145.182.201 (talk) 16:32, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

They did not share the name "Somaliland". It simply did not exist! And all the maps in english language show always "Italian Somalia" and "British Somaliland". The right name of the article must be Italian Somalia. F.T.B. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.86.226.11 (talk) 03:18, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

The autonomous Somaliland region of modern-day Somalia obviously did not exist back then, Dulio, but Italian Somaliland most certainly did (as did the British Somaliland it united with to form the Somali Republic). And that is the most common name for the territory, not "Italian Somalia". Middayexpress (talk) 08:08, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Exceptional claims require exceptional sources

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Your http://www.italosomali.org source falls short in several respects because:
1)It's not in English and this, again, is English Wikipedia. Since your source is not in English, readers can't "easily verify that the source material has been used correctly".
2)You personally translated the text instead of providing a translation published by a reliable source.
3)Your assertion here that "the Italians brought to Somalia a huge development of Catholicism embraced by nearly 20% of the population in the 1940s" also more than qualifies as an exceptional claim per Wiki policies since all the available mainstream historical sources on the Somalis agree that they are and have always been among the most singularly Muslim populations extant. Your edit therefore necessitates a high quality source, which the Italian-language http://www.italosomali.org/ unfortunately does not qualify as:

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I have therefore reverted your edit. Causteau (talk) 02:57, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

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