Talk:Invader (artist)

Photographer

Are we sure about the professional photographer?

name??

i was under the impression that his handle was "space invader" - it looks like the source listed in the article calls him space invader LazyMapleSunday (talk) 07:42, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

The website states clearly on the front page that the Space Invader project is "A reality game by Invader" --CheShA (talk) 23:23, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

Futurama references

There's a reference to Invader in Futurama season 6 episode 4 "Proposition Infinity". Would this be included in the article? I wouldn't know, as this is my first post. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proposition_Infinity http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1630893/ -> see trivia... it's there somewhere -Velstyx (talk) 10:22, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

There's also a Bender tile in Season 7 Episode 14 : 2-D Blacktop at 7:04 - ImproveEverything (talk) 20:51, 8 August 2017 (UTC)

Please see Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Trivia sections: "Trivia sections should be avoided." -Lopifalko (talk) 09:37, 9 August 2017 (UTC)

Photos

Do we know which (if any) of the mosaic images are actually by Invader the artist? --McGeddon (talk) 14:48, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

File:Invader Louvre Statue.jpg seems to match a picture on Invader's site of Paris installations (http://www.space-invaders.com/1paris.html, four to the right of the bottom left), but I can't find any supporting evidence that the other images on this article are by Invader rather than copycat street artists. I've cut it back to the Louvre photo for situational context, and one illustrative close-up example by an unknown artist, captioned as such. --McGeddon (talk) 10:41, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

Tiling school in Mars?

Hi all. The first line in the history section reads, "As a graduate of the École des Beaux-Arts, or Tiling School on Mars..." and is footnoted, but regardless of the cite, "Ecole des Beaux-Arts" does not mean "Tiling School on Mars." Me thinks a bit of funny trolling is at play. It simply means The School of Fine Arts, no tiles. No Alien worlds. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jpgoodyear (talk • contribs) 11:26, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

Image licensing

Why aren't these copyrighted images? Just wondering... Viriditas (talk) 05:31, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

Good question! Commons:Derivative works has a flowchart showing that artwork installed permanently in a public place and with a "freedom of panorama" available to the viewer can be photographed and uploaded under a free licence, but freedom of panorama varies from country to country. UK, Spain and Hong Kong all have a generous freedom of panorama law, but France doesn't. I'm not sure we could reasonably use the Paris shot under fair use, as the image could be replaced by an equally representative photo from another country. The (temporary exhibition) Rubikcubism certainly shouldn't be on Commons; my mistake, I'll remove it now. --McGeddon (talk) 09:17, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

Looks like Flickr has masses of usable CC-Attribution shots from the UK, but we should be careful to pick one that was actually installed by Invader, rather than a copycat artist. The official Invader site has a brief montage of London installations, I'll have a comb through in a day or two if nobody beats me to it. --McGeddon (talk) 09:33, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

I would love to do the GA review, but this question is going to come up. Maybe you could try to address it before anyone reviews the article? Have you thought about getting an image licensing expert to come in and take a look? Viriditas (talk) 09:53, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

I've now cut the Rubikscubism image and replaced the Paris one with a shot from Manchester, England. All images on the page are now from countries that allow freedom of panorama photography of permanent public art. --McGeddon (talk) 10:25, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

For clarity, can you list the images and the countries? Might make it easier for whomever will be doing the review. I would like to do the review, but I'm not sure how much longer I'll be around. Viriditas (talk) 10:45, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

Sure: File:Pacman Guggenheim.jpg was taken in Bilbao, Spain, File:Manchester Space Invader.jpg in Manchester, England and File:Cannon street mosaic.jpg.jpg and File:Invaders_gone.jpg.jpg (not that the latter is really an artwork any more) in Hong Kong. Hong Kong and the UK have exemptions for "graphic works" (being "any painting, drawing, diagram, map, chart or plan, any engraving, etching, lithograph, woodcut or similar work"), but this does not apply if the creator "had the conscious purpose of creating a work of art", which I would say was clearly the case here. --McGeddon (talk) 10:53, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

Can you cite the relevant policy or guideline for quick review and confirmation? Viriditas (talk) 11:04, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

It's the Commons link I gave above: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Freedom_of_panorama --McGeddon (talk) 11:10, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. Do you know if he invaded San Francisco in the 90s? I think that's when I first saw his work on the streets. Viriditas (talk) 11:14, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

Invader started in 1995, and has installations in LA and NY, and this seems to suggest he hasn't been to SF as at January 2011.

• Thanks peeps, for sorting out the images. -- Ohc ^¡digame! 12:18, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Invader (artist)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Tezero (talk · contribs) 17:06, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

Good Article review progress box Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV () 3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant () Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

Comments:

1. The web sources need accessdates.
2. I can't confirm the reliability of most of the sources, as I'm not well-acquainted with news sources outside the US and UK, so I'll just pass criterion 2b as they look decently professional, but you should get a second opinion after this review if you're aiming for FA.
3. "Osama Ben Laden" - You know it's Osama bin Laden, right? Is this a deliberate misspelling by him to connect bin Laden to some famous "Ben" a la "AmeriKKKa"?
4. Likewise, by "a giant space invader character", do you mean one of the iconic aliens from Space Invaders? If so, say "a giant Space Invaders alien". Or is this just a generic video game space-man?
5. "Other works" is way too short a section for a GA. I'd prefer if you folded "Rubikubism" under it as a level-3 header.
6. Also, a minor organizational point: "Identity" shouldn't go between "Modus operandi" and "Rubikubism"/"Other works", as it's about him as a person and his legal issues, while the surrounding sections are about his works. It flows a little strangely; that's all.
7. This may not be available given the sources, but is there a way you could construct a sentence or two listing video games that he's done takes on? As a gamer, I'm quite curious about that.
8. Those citations in the intro should probably go; they're only encouraged for important statistics or controversial statements.

Ping me when you've addressed or otherwise responded to these. Tezero (talk) 17:06, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

@Tezero: thanks for your comments so far. I've made some changes according to your suggestions, and have done some mild copyediting and tweaks on top of that. My responses to your comments mirror the above numbering.

1. I do not place much value or importance on using access dates. My current practice is to archive extensively to avoid linkrot, thus rendering the use of access dates redundant.
2. I am also unable to attest to the "reliability" of all the sources. Street Art being a field where by nature the sources are more "citizen's journalism", I think this is to be expected. I have made a conscious effort to look for more "newsish" sources and avoid sources that appear too "personal".
3. "Osama Ben Laden" – wasn't paying much attention. Like for Gaddafi, this is a transcribed name with no unified "official" orthography. I've also occasionally seen reputable journals write "Usama ben Laden"
4. "a giant space invader character" – this is a generic description for the mapping is not that precise
5. "Other works" now merged
6. "Identity" section – moved
7. List of video games – I've added a couple more to the body of the text from separate sources, but I was trying to avoid creating a full list knowing that a/ it's likely to be non-exhaustive and b/ it would render the article too crufty

That's fine. I just wanted a little more. Tezero (talk) 03:21, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

1. citations in the intro – removed all but one

Regards, -- Ohc ^¡digame! 03:07, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

Alright, in your edits a few more grammar and spelling issues cropped up, but I've fixed those, and I'll just pass the article now. Tezero (talk) 03:21, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

Is this a work by the artist?

Lemmings in Valencia

Seen in a street in Valencia.--Coentor (talk) 14:01, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

• I suspect it's a copycat as it doesn't seem to fit with his usual subject matter. Can't check if Invader has ever been to Valencia, site is being revamped. One clue is to find out if there any other tiled aliens in the city. -- Ohc ^¡digame! 23:54, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

I'll check if I can find any alien.--Coentor (talk) 14:22, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

(The sprites in the image are from Psygnosis' puzzle game Lemmings, of course.) 2A00:23C5:FE18:2701:19A4:B863:AFF1:611E (talk) 17:56, 18 November 2022 (UTC)

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Delete the "Genuine Undead" section?

It doesn't cite any sources, it's in "reception" where it doesn't belong, and it's written with obvious advertisement-speak. Should it be deleted? Dewdropsdrops (talk) 12:32, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

Yes, that should definitely be deleted. I'd do it but I'm new to wikipedia editing and don't know how to remove an entire section. Someone please get rid of this section ASAP, it doesn't make sense and has no citations, links, or references. You'd think if it was a real ad it would at least have a link somewhere in it... 68.13.37.74 (talk) 22:35, 10 June 2023 (UTC)

It had been unsourced for a long time, so I have removed it. Govvy (talk) 08:56, 11 June 2023 (UTC)