Talk:History of the New York Giants

Trimming

I am going to trim this article in order to keep the size down and add two subpages. Quadzilla99 15:13, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Correction I made three subpages. Quadzilla99 20:48, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Sentences/statements removed in lieu of a source

"After the game John Mara expressed his sincere gratitude by stating simply "God bless Abe Cohen." " Google results with the phrase in quotes yields zero results that aren't derived from Wikipedia. Quadzilla99 15:13, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

The Giants of New York, Barry Gottehrer, G. P. Putnam's Sons, New York, NY, 1963 p. 123: Abe Cohen did not go unrecognized. Along with Morgan, Strong, and Danowski, the little tailor had saved the day and brought New York its first National Football League playoff championship. Len Grant summed it up best when he said, "God bless Abe Cohen." Revmoran 23:57, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Great work, it's back in with the appropriate source. Quadzilla99 10:22, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

GA review

I made a few edits, but very little had to be done. This is an exceptional piece of work, easily a good article. Might need a strong copyedit due to the sheer quantity of text. Well done; I threw in the {{ArticleHistory}} because I'm sure we'll be seeing more of this article. PhoenixTwo 02:49, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the review! Quadzilla99 03:41, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

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Early History

Can we really say that the Giants were one of the first teams in the NFL? There were 30+ teams before them - Akron Pros, Buffalo All-Americans, Buffalo Bisons, Canton Bulldogs, Chicago Bears, Chicago Cardinals, Chicago Tigers, Cincinnati Celts, Cleveland Bulldogs, Cleveland Indians, Cleveland Tigers, Columbus Panhandles, Columbus Tigers, Dayton Triangles, Detroit Heralds, Duluth Kelleys, Evansville Crimson Giants, Frankford Yellow Jackets, Green Bay Packers, Hammond Pros, Hammond Pros, Kansas City Blues, Kenosha Maroons, Louisville Brecks, Milwaukee Badgers, Minneapolis Marines, Muncie Flyers, New York Brickley's Giants, Oorang Indians, Racine Legion, Rochester Jeffersons, Rock Island Independents, St. Louis All-Stars, Toledo Maroons, Tonawanda Kardex, and the Washington Senators.

Also I'd like to put a link to an article I've written about Harry March

I know people have put a lot of work into this article so I'm floating this idea before I edit. Revmoran (talk) 01:25, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

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GA Reassessment

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GA review (see here for criteria):

The problems with this article can be easily summarised:

• 2007: No references. Also, this section is far to long, which gives the impression of presentism. Particularly since there is already a subarticle, this needs to be trimmed.
• 2008: Ok, but no references.
• 2009: Non-existent.

Also, there are at least ten dead links: [1]. Lampman (talk) 15:03, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

Since no improvements have been made to the article over the last week, I will now delist it. These are relatively easy fixes though, if anybody updates the article, please contact me and I'd be happy to give it a new GA review. Lampman (talk) 10:27, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

GA re-nom

Ok, this is another that article atrophied while I was gone but I think I restored it to GA status. Let's see how it goes. Quadzilla99 (talk) 11:55, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

Picture Question

The Lynn Bomar article includes this picture of the Giants v. Yellow Jackets game in 1925. I believe the striped socks are the Giants, meaning that 21 is Thorpe. Any way to tell if the 7 on the ground is Bomar? Cake (talk) 21:13, 14 August 2015 (UTC)

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Source defense aged quickly in 1991 with multiple refs. Quadzilla99 11:48, 29 May 2007 (UTC) Stadiums ref:[2] Quadzilla99 00:20, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Last edited at 08:10, 3 June 2007 (UTC). Substituted at 18:06, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

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