Talk:Fethullah Gülen

Latest comment: 2 years ago by ScottishFinnishRadish in topic Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 29 March 2022
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opinions edit

quote Re coup attempt

WaExaminer[1] (IMO one of the best expert-opinion quotes I've come across Re gulenistas' participation in putsch (despite lack of evidence of gulen himself's direct involvement?))

"Nick Danforth, senior visiting fellow at the German Marshall Fund, said there was a consensus that Gülenists were involved and may have had a leadership role. 'That said, the Turkish government hasn’t released concrete evidence linking Gülen himself directly to the coup, of the sort that would be necessary to secure an extradition in a U.S. court of law,' he said."

--Hodgdon's secret garden (talk) 20:47, 12 November 2019 (UTC)Reply

Re sanctioned biography

"In his book, Dr. Pahl [Fethullah Gulen: A Life of Hizmet by Gulen biographer Jon Pahl, historian of religions & public theologian] weaves this fascinating life into a narrative marked by five key elements, patterns, or relationships in Gülen’s life: integrity of participation in the nonviolent practices of Islam; principled pluralism—manifest in a commitment to dialogue; engaged empathy—deep feeling for the suffering of the world, and willingness to engage on behalf of alleviating that suffering; a commitment to spiritual and scientific literacy; and an organizational model of social enterprise. Dr. Pahl, a strong believer of religions as catalysts for peace, crafts through the story of Gülen and the Hizmet Movement an introduction to Islam for non-Muslim readers, for the questions he brings to Gülen’s life story are also the questions others bring to Islam more broadly."[2]

--Hodgdon's secret garden (talk) 20:48, 16 January 2020 (UTC)Reply

quote Re perceived former alignment with AKP party

TheEconomist[3] - ".. By the early 2010s, they had amassed enough power to pose a threat to Mr Erdogan. “There was a time when they virtually ruled Turkey,” says Gokhan Bacik, an academic formerly close to the movement, now living in exile. They overreached by trying to torpedo peace talks with Kurdish insurgents, going after Turkey’s intelligence chief in 2012, and implicating Mr Erdogan in a corruption scandal the year after. Turkey’s strongman responded by declaring war on the cemaat and removing its loyalists from the bureaucracy. The purges went into overdrive after the coup attempt. .."

--Hodgdon's secret garden (talk) 13:22, 16 August 2020 (UTC)Reply

Center for European Policy Analysis/Kurt Volker [4]
". . Turkey has blamed the United States for the 2016 coup attempt, and bristles at what it sees as U.S. protection of Fetullah Gulen, whom Turkey accuses of organizing the coup. . ."
--Hodgdon's secret garden (talk) 19:38, 1 December 2020 (UTC)Reply
Times News (Pennsylvania); [5]
"President Donald Trump might still be inclined to act on Turkey’s extradition requests during his last weeks in office"
lawandcrime.com/Adam Klasfeld [6]
". . 'Erdoğan blames Mr. Gülen for an attempted coup in 2016, without producing public evidence for the claim,' Sen. Wyden, D-Oregon, wrote in a 3-page letter to Education Secretary Betsy DeVos. 'President Erdoğan has also called Mr. Gülen a terrorist and has repeatedly sought his extradition.' . . Turkish government actors and their lobbyists routinely vilify Gülenist charter schools in the United States, seeking their defunding and prosecution. . . Wyden told DeVos: 'These circumstances reinforce my concern that the Trump administration’s policy on Turkey, and in this instance the Administration’s domestic education policy, may be driven by President Trump’s personal interests and those of foreign leaders rather than the interests of the American people.' . . The Democratic senator simultaneously wrote two other Trump cabinet members, acting Homeland Security Secretary Chad Wolf and Attorney General Bill Barr, about reported efforts seeking Gülen’s extradition or prosecution. . ."
--Hodgdon's secret garden (talk) 19:57, 2 December 2020 (UTC)Reply

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 13 March 2021 edit

Change the “Gülen is wanted as a terrorist leader by Turkey and Pakistan as well as the OIC and ... governments” part. The petition to OIC was a post by Turkey on a board of members with no signatories. The Turkish and Pakistani governments have been known for their human rights violations and corruption. One unsubstantiated (and challenged in every developed country) claim by two dictatorships should not mar an international scholar’s record in this manner. 2601:249:8100:10E0:E46A:5728:774B:3B06 (talk) 16:34, 13 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

  Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Ⓩⓟⓟⓘⓧ Talk 22:38, 14 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 29 March 2022 edit

The majority of the introduction is a concluding parenthetical phrase, which really doesn't look right. Please remove the parentheses themselves (but not the words inside the parentheses), so the sentence looks like this:

Muhammed Fethullah Gülen (born 27 April 1941) is a Turkish Islamic scholar, preacher, and a one-time opinion leader as de facto leader of the Gülen movement: an international, faith-based civil society organization once aligned with Turkey's government, but since then outlawed as an alleged "armed terrorist group".

Thank you. 49.198.51.54 (talk) 05:32, 29 March 2022 (UTC)Reply

  Partly done: I removed a fair chunk of that sentence, and removed the parenthetical. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:05, 29 March 2022 (UTC)Reply

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