Talk:Dovid Katz

Latest comment: 2 years ago by Buidhe

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This person holds views which he acknowledges on his website are considered historical revisionism by Lithuanian authorities and banned as such (he denies the communist genocide in Lithuania). Describing him as a "critic of revisionist currents", when he himself holds views that are outlawed as revisionist in his former country of residence, is obviously not neutral. A far more correct description would be "critic of laws banning communist crime denial".

i don't really know what this untitled and unsigned edit is. he doesn't "deny the communist genocide in Lithuania".
while repeatedly expressing abhorrence for the crimes committed under Stalin's regime, he agrees with most sources that what the communists did in Lithuania was not genocide, that the communists targeted political opponents, not the lithuanians as a race. i agree that "double revisionism" is confusing.Spitfire3000 (talk) 13:26, 5 February 2012 (UTC)Reply

Not a member of World Without Nazism (RfC) edit

(RfC tag now removed)

Dovid Katz spoke at a conference of World Without Nazism, and he was subsequently wrongly reported by Russia Today as being a member of World Without Nazism. He has never been a member of World Without Nazism, opposed their stance on Soviet crimes when speaking at the conference, and Russia Today is the only source of his "membership". This citation is now being used as an attempt to defame him on his Wikipedia page. An edit war is starting and I would appreciate comment. As far as I can see, one source is not sufficient for adding a controversial and potentially defaming "fact" to a biography of a living person.Spitfire3000 (talk) 14:35, 5 February 2012 (UTC)Reply

It appears that the RfC silenced the edit war effectively so I will remove the tag.Spitfire3000 (talk) 01:04, 19 February 2012 (UTC)Reply

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Article is blatant advertisement written mostly by obvious WP:SPA, who is most likely subject himself or someone closely related to him.--Staberinde (talk) 18:37, 31 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

I disagree, it reads like a biography of a living person who enjoys academic celebrity and acclaim to some extent. Hypatea (talk) 20:35, 30 October 2013 (UTC)Reply
I have to agree with Staberinde. Such exhaustive detail about a scholar in a minor bywater of linguistics whose only substantive contribution to the field seems to have been "reconstructions for parts of the proto-Yiddish vowel system [later supported by] a thirteenth-century Hebrew and Aramaic prayerbook manuscript in the Bodleian" seems literally self-promotional. The notion that he "enjoys academic celebrity and acclaim" reminds me of the "world-famous in Poland" line in Mel Brooks's To Be Or Not To Be.98.118.22.14 (talk) 10:30, 4 November 2018 (UTC)Reply

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NPOV issues and length edit

This article (which seems to be over-referenced to the breaking point, I might add) has some NPOV issues:

  • A large fraction of the references are from the website he owns (or from works penned by himself) that is described as "openly partisan" in this same article;
  • The use of phrases like "It did not, however, usher in the literary revival he had hoped for, and his own works of fiction received little recognition outside the narrow world of secular Yiddish culture", "Most of the reviews of his own appearance judged it negatively and he did not think much of the program himself.", "Katz promptly responded (in Yiddish).", "His professorship at Vilnius University was terminated after eleven years in 2010 after he published several articles critical of Lithuanian prosecutors' campaign against Holocaust survivors who joined the partisans." (surprisingly, no reference given here among the 130) and others often reads more like a self-written impressum or a book author preview.

The article is also incredibly drawn out, and I believe that mentioning every single remark Katz has issued on the internet, often on his self-owned site, is too much (e.g. it has 'only' 20 references less than Neil deGrasse Tyson and is larger than Chris Hadfield) and the thing should be shortened and re-written with a more critical outlook. Ivario (talk) 11:18, 5 December 2021 (UTC)Reply

Yes, it should be stripped of most or all the self-sourcing at a minimum. (t · c) buidhe 11:23, 5 December 2021 (UTC)Reply