Talk:Commissioner of Internal Revenue

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How long do they serve? edit

How long does a commissioner serve?

It used to be that commissioners had unlimited tenure: Guy Helvering may have been the longest- serving Commissioner, at 10 years, 4 months (6/6/1933 — 10/8/1943). The IRS Restructuring and Reform Act of 1998 set a five-year term of office. The Commissioner serving when this Act became law, Charles Rossotti, served the full five years, from November 1997 to November 2002.

Potential Reference Sources edit

Thoughts on the reliability of the Tax History Project? They have a list of commissioners from 1862 onward. Tim.kennedy 01:00, 26 February 2007 (UTC)Reply

I think the website for www.taxhistory.org should be OK. Also, I can check it against CCH's website, which is highly authoritative. (CCH also has the list of Commissioners.) Famspear 02:06, 26 February 2007 (UTC)Reply
I found a historical list of Commissioners in an official IRS publication (see the new reference) and transferred all the info. Comparing it with what you entered, it seems the same, except not including any acting Commissioners. I'm not sure if the they really need to be included - I assume they were just bureaucratic caretakers, acting for a week or at most a few months until someone was appointed. I made some attempts at wikification, but some of the links are going to different people with the same name. -- Minivet 02:10, 15 September 2007 (UTC)Reply

Wikitabled the list, I'm going to leave it up to someone more invested in this article to check and decide whether to post it:

No. Commissioner of Internal Revenue Start of Term End of Term
1 George S. Boutwell July 17, 1862 March 4, 1863
2 Joseph J. Lewis March 18, 1863 June 30, 1865
3 William Orton July 1, 1865 October 31, 1865
4 Edward A. Rollins November 1, 1865 March 10, 1869
5 Columbus Delano March 11, 1869 October 31, 1870
6 Alfred Pleasonton January 3, 1871 August 8, 1871
7 John W. Douglass August 9, 1871 May 15, 1875
8 Daniel D. Pratt May 15, 1875 July 31, 1876
9 Green B. Raum August 2, 1876 April 30, 1883
10 Walter Evans May 21, 1883 March 19, 1885
11 Joseph S. Miller March 20, 1885 March 20, 1889
12 John W. Mason March 21, 1889 April 18, 1893
13 Joseph S. Miller April 19, 1893 November 26, 1896
14 William St. John Forman November 27, 1896 December 31, 1897
15 Nathan B. Scott January 1, 1898 February 18, 1899
16 George W. Wilson March 1, 1899 November 27, 1900
17 John W. Yerkes December 20, 1900 April 30, 1907
18 John G. Capers June 5, 1907 August 31, 1909
19 Royal E. Cabell September 1, 1909 April 27, 1913
20 William H. Osborn April 28, 1913 September 25, 1917
21 Daniel Calhoun Roper September 26, 1917 March 31, 1920
22 William M. Williams April 1, 1920 April 11, 1921
23 David H. Blair May 27, 1921 May 31, 1929
24 Robert H. Lucas June 1, 1929 August 15, 1930
26 David Burnet August 20, 1930 May 15, 1933
27 Guy T. Helvering June 6, 1933 October 8, 1943
28 Robert E. Hannegan October 9, 1943 January 22, 1944
29 Joseph D. Nunan, Jr. March 1, 1944 June 30, 1947
30 George J. Schoeneman July 1, 1947 July 31, 1951
31 John B. Dunlap August 1, 1951 November 18, 1952
32 T. Coleman Andrews February 4, 1953 October 31, 1955
33 Russell C. Harrington December 5, 1955 September 30, 1958
34 Dana Latham November 5, 1958 January 20, 1961
35 Mortimer M. Caplin February 7, 1961 July 10, 1964
36 Sheldon S. Cohen January 25, 1965 January 20, 1969
37 Randolph W. Thrower April 1, 1969 June 22, 1971
38 Johnnie M. Walters August 6, 1971 April 30, 1973
39 Donald C. Alexander May 25, 1973 February 26, 1977
40 Jerome Kurtz May 5, 1977 October 31, 1980
41 Roscoe L. Egger March 14, 1981 April 30, 1986
42 Lawrence B. Gibbs August 4, 1986 March 4, 1989
43 Fred T. Goldberg, Jr. July 5, 1989 February 2, 1992
44 Shirley D. Peterson February 3, 1992 January 20, 1993
45 Margaret Milner Richardson May 27, 1993 May 31, 1997
46 Charles O. Rossotti November 13, 1997 November 6, 2002
47 Mark W. Everson May 1, 2003 present

Source: Tax History Project

No article on Guy Helvering; I guess he only lives on in case captions. Green Raum, a Civil War commander turned anti-moonshiner, seems like another fascinating figure without an article. Tim.kennedy 07:17, 2 March 2007 (UTC)Reply

As time allows, I'll try to check this table against the CCH list, and transfer the table to the article if it's accurate. Stay tuned. Yours, Famspear 15:26, 2 March 2007 (UTC)Reply
Dear @Famspear: and @Tim.kennedy:, Would either of you add the photo of the current Commish, or remove the photos of the former Commishs? Thank you in advance. Geraldshields11 (talk) 21:23, 3 March 2015 (UTC)Reply

Taxes edit

Why does it take so much longer to receive a refund I if you have to file an injured spouse form with your taxes. Troyrusty (talk) 14:03, 18 February 2016 (UTC)Reply

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Why include the leave office date? edit

Name Took Office
George S. Boutwell Jul 17, 1862
Joseph J. Lewis (Acting) Mar 5, 1863
Joseph J. Lewis Mar 18, 1863
William Orton Jul 1, 1865
Edward A. Rollins Nov 1, 1865
Columbus Delano Mar 11, 1869
John W. Douglass (Acting) Nov 1, 1870
Alfred Pleasonton Jan 3, 1871
John W. Douglass Aug 9, 1871
Daniel D. Pratt May 15, 1875
Green B. Raum Aug 2, 1876
Henry C. Rogers (Acting) May 1, 1883
John Jay Knox (Acting) May 11, 1883
Walter Evans May 21, 1883
Joseph S. Miller Mar 20, 1885
John W. Mason Mar 21, 1889
Joseph S. Miller Apr 19, 1893
William St. John Forman Nov 27, 1896
Nathan B. Scott Jan 1, 1898
George W. Wilson Mar 1, 1899
Robert Williams Jr. (Acting) Nov 28, 1900
John W. Yerkes Dec 20, 1900
Henry C. Rogers (Acting) May 1, 1907
John G. Capers Jun 5, 1907
Royal E. Cabell Sep 1, 1909
William H. Osborn Apr 28, 1913
Daniel Calhoun Roper Sep 26, 1917
William M. Williams Apr 1, 1920
Millard F. West (Acting) Apr 12, 1921
David H. Blair May 27, 1921
Robert H. Lucas Jun 1, 1929
H. F. Mires (Acting) Aug 16, 1930
David Burnet Aug 20, 1930
Pressly R. Baldridge (Acting) May 16, 1933
Guy T. Helvering Jun 6, 1933
Robert E. Hannegan Oct 9, 1943
Harold N. Graves (Acting) Jan 23, 1944
Joseph D. Nunan Jr. Mar 1, 1944
George J. Schoeneman Jul 1, 1947
John B. Dunlap Aug 1, 1951
John Stephens Graham Nov 19, 1952
Justin F. Winkle (Acting) Jan 20, 1953
T. Coleman Andrews Feb 4, 1953
O. Gordon Delk (Acting) Nov 1, 1955
Russell C. Harrington Dec 5, 1955
O. Gordon Delk (Acting) Oct 1, 1958
Dana Latham Nov 5, 1958
Charles I. Fox (Acting) Jan 21, 1961
Mortimer Caplin Feb 7, 1961
Bernard M. Harding (Acting) Jul 11, 1964
Sheldon S. Cohen Jan 25, 1965
William H. Smith (Acting) Jan 21, 1969
Randolph W. Thrower Apr 1, 1969
Harold T. Swartz (Acting) Jun 23, 1971
Johnnie Mac Walters Aug 6, 1971
Raymond F. Harless (Acting) May 1, 1973
Donald C. Alexander May 25, 1973
William E. Williams (Acting) Feb 27, 1977
Jerome Kurtz May 5, 1977
William E. Williams (Acting) Dec 1, 1980
Roscoe L. Egger Jr. Mar 14, 1981
James I. Owens (Acting) May 1, 1986
Lawrence B. Gibbs Aug 4, 1986
Michael J. Murphy (Acting) Mar 5, 1989
Fred T. Goldberg, Jr. Jul 5, 1989
Shirley D. Peterson Feb 3, 1992
Michael P. Dolan (Acting) Jan 21, 1993
Margaret Milner Richardson May 27, 1993
Michael P. Dolan (Acting) Jun 1, 1997
Charles O. Rossotti Nov 13, 1997
Bob Wenzel (Acting) Nov 7, 2002
Mark W. Everson May 1, 2003
Kevin M. Brown (Acting) May 5, 2007
Linda E. Stiff[1][2](Acting) Sep 10, 2007
Douglas H. Shulman Mar 24, 2008
Steven T. Miller (Acting) Nov 10, 2012
Daniel Werfel (Acting) May 22, 2013[3]
John Koskinen December 23, 2013
David Kautter (Acting) November 13, 2017
Charles P. Rettig October 1, 2018

Doesn't that look a lot cleaner? Why have a date that's the day before or the day of the following appointment? Banaticus (talk) 01:13, 16 January 2020 (UTC)Reply

References

  1. ^ George Jones, CCH News Staff, CCH 2007 TaxDay, Stiff Starts as Acting IRS Commissioner, Item #I.6 (Sept. 21, 2007).
  2. ^ Official IRS Web Site, Acting Commissioner Linda E. Stiff "Archived copy". Archived from the original on 2008-02-24. Retrieved 2017-08-11.{{cite web}}: CS1 maint: archived copy as title (link) CS1 maint: bot: original URL status unknown (link) (Mar. 24, 2008)
  3. ^ President Obama Appoints Daniel Werfel as Acting Commissioner of Internal Revenue, May 16, 2013

Charles Riddick edit

I've sent over 5 emails to commissioner for IRS/treasury/president Biden. And not one response by them or there appointed contact's to help me since no one else at tax advocate office/treasury/Ssa will help me, either by phone/email. I've used every tool available by IRS get my payments tool. I'm due ($1400.00,$3600.00 ctc/stimulus & $2900.00 & $3100.00 fed/state tax refund)!!! I received$1400.00 but was sent back to treasury/IRS due to bank error's. Which were fixed but the treasury department will not send me back my by law $1400.00+$3600.00 stimulus payments/child tax credit. I was promised by tax advocate office id receive both as well as my tax refunds. No later than April 12th 2021. Still nothing and not one of the above or anyone else will help me. Making me/my 12 year old niece with down syndrome so we can survive. My bills unpaid for rent/utilities & no food. My common law partner ,son,niece I supported all of 2020 & part of 2021 on $774.00 month on (SSI VIA SSA)!! WHY WILL NO ONE HELP ME GET MY REFUNDS/STIMULUS PAYMENTS IM OWED BY FEDERAL LAW.? JEFFREY OWEN READY 503 560-5332 Jettsky123$ (talk) 16:09, 21 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

Refund edit

I am owed a refund for 2020 taxes. Trying to confirm my identity is impossible with you by phone. I only reverted to phone because I had no luck on internet. I am told over and over with each phone call that they are too busy to take my call at this time. Well, what time would be good??? I tried enough times Margaret Ferraro 2601:881:8300:F50:8078:603:23CB:8452 (talk) 01:26, 8 January 2022 (UTC)Reply