Talk:China–North Korea relations

Latest comment: 3 months ago by Itzybella8 in topic General Secretary vs President?

language edit

Change wording? Somehow appears to be written in an unprofessional way/by a child. Best to rewrite. -- 李博杰  | Talk contribs 03:26, 8 September 2008 (UTC)Reply

Any additional information on the 6 party talks available? Manofmyth (talk) 16:25, 7 November 2011 (UTC)Reply

Should probably be rewritten to reflect Kim Jong-Il's death and any changes that have resulted — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.39.156.25 (talk) 01:02, 12 March 2012 (UTC)Reply

Clarify? edit

Just a query, but it says China imports iron and steel from N.K, and that N.K imports iron and steel from China. Doesn't that seem a little contradictory? Is there a source for this? I know they may have reasons, but this just seems weird. TotNoob102 (talk) 06:54, 23 August 2012 (UTC)Reply

It does look odd. However, Australia, for instance, both imports and exports petroleum. It would also be good to say if there is a trade imbalance.--Jack Upland (talk) 02:05, 5 April 2013 (UTC)Reply

Border Fence edit

"In 2006, China built a 20-kilometer long fence along its border with North Korea. It is located primarily along areas where the Yalu River dividing the two countries is narrow and the river banks low."

When I was at Dandong last year I couldn't see any fence. There, at the delta of the Yalu, the border is just a stream at some points. I will add a picture. So is this story true? Is this fence still around? If so, where? In any case, 20 km is not very long...--Jack Upland (talk) 02:04, 5 April 2013 (UTC)Reply

I have since seen photos of the fence. We now have 3 articles discussing the fence. This should be tidied up.--Jack Upland (talk) 01:15, 15 July 2013 (UTC)Reply
The border fence article has now been merged with the border article, so this problem has largely been cleared up.--Jack Upland (talk) 10:14, 17 October 2014 (UTC)Reply

Possible copyright problem edit

 

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China blocking North Korean coal exports edit

China just decreed that they will stop taking coal from North Korea. Feel free to improve on this information. UNSC Luke 1021 (talk) 01:45, 19 February 2017 (UTC)Reply

Kim Jong Nam edit

I have removed this:

On 14 February 2017, Kim Jong-nam, the son of Kim Jong-il was assassinated in Malaysia while he was returning to Macau. Kim was under the protection of the PRC for a long time and was chosen as the successor to the Kim dynasty.[1][2] As a consequence, the PLA troops were deployed to the China–North Korea border.

The idea that he was China's chosen successor in NK seems to come the Telegraph article: "It is also possible that China is looking for an alternative North Korean leader and could have thrown their support behind another member of the Kim family." This quote comes from Toshimitsu Shigemura who has been accused of propagating some of the worse rumours about North Korea.[1] In any case, it is clear that he is only speculating. The claim that Chinese troops were deployed to the border has no citation at all. I found this — [2] — but it doesn't seem authoritative. I think if we're going to mention the assassination here, there has to be something concrete to say about China-NK relations beyond the fact that he lived in Macao.--Jack Upland (talk) 20:08, 21 February 2017 (UTC)Reply

References

  1. ^ Ryall, Julian; Rothwell, James (14 February 2017). "Kim Jong-un's half-brother 'assassinated in Malaysia by female North Korean spies with poison needle'". The Telegraph. Retrieved 14 February 2017.
  2. ^ McCurry, Justin (14 February 2017). "Kim Jong-un's half-brother reportedly killed in Malaysia". The Guardian. Retrieved 14 February 2017.

China and North Korea are still allies edit

Black Cat Detective and Squirrel and Hedgehog are similar in animation and plot, and in early 2018 there was a Kim-Xi meeting thus putting the rumors that Beijing and Pyongyang are no longer allies to bed. China should make sanctions against Taiwan and South Korea since they are both anti-communist and support the German unification model (which will destroy both PRC and DPRK). 94.180.100.9 (talk) 12:43, 19 December 2018 (UTC)Reply

Yes, they are allies. I don't think the article says otherwise.--Jack Upland (talk) 07:25, 20 December 2018 (UTC)Reply

Border edit

WisDom-UK, why do you say the border "almost entirely" corresponds to the Yalu and Tumen rivers?--Jack Upland (talk) 20:20, 16 September 2020 (UTC)Reply

there is a very short section of it that runs on land over Mt Paektu.WisDom-UK (talk) 21:17, 16 September 2020 (UTC)Reply
Oh, I thought the border on Mt Paektu followed the course of the rivers up to Heaven Lake...--Jack Upland (talk) 21:52, 16 September 2020 (UTC)Reply
yes the land section is very short so can't be seen on large maps (see: https://s.yimg.com/uu/api/res/1.2/j3CFa9rGSA6wu8creRJR1w--~B/aD02NTM7dz03Njg7c209MTthcHBpZD15dGFjaHlvbg--/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/afp.com/5ca50b618e2e4eb11a2418ca8a0d0467d80ef0c2.jpg) WisDom-UK (talk) 22:45, 16 September 2020 (UTC)Reply

Updated edit

I updated the ambassador list when i saw the li jinjun article said that the ambassador had changed. Thehistorianisaac (talk) 01:50, 30 October 2022 (UTC)Reply

Oops the link is incorrect Thehistorianisaac (talk) 01:51, 30 October 2022 (UTC)Reply

General Secretary vs President? edit

Hi guys, in the inter-visits section, Kim Il-Sung is referred to sometimese as "General Secretary" and sometimes as "President". Is there a reason for this distinction? If there is a reason (for example, he was acting in different capacities) please expand. If there is no reason, I would suggest changing it all to the same term for continuity. Itzybella8 (talk) 23:58, 25 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

Kim Il Sung was the General Secretary of the Workers' Party of Korea from 1945 to 1946, and again from 1949 to his death in 1994. He was also the President of North Korea from 1972 to 1994. The office was then vacant until its abolition in 1998. Referring to him as President prior to 1972 is inaccurate. Dimadick (talk) 17:22, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply
Thank you! Itzybella8 (talk) 23:33, 28 January 2024 (UTC)Reply