Talk:COVID-19 vaccination in India

Setup of this article

Thanks to user:Jose Mathew C for starting this article.

Jose, I see that you removed 5,714 characters from COVID-19 pandemic in India then added 12,654 characters when you set up COVID-19 vaccination in India. Where did you get the 7000 additional characters? Are those from somewhere else, are you the original writer, or what?

This is a needed article so thanks for recognizing it. Blue Rasberry (talk) 22:16, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

Thank you! There are three reasons for this - (1) I added two sentences in the new article to give background information; (2) While I moved some content from the Main Covid in India page, I also copied some parts (which I felt were needed on both pages); and (3) I added more references to both pages. Hope this helps. - Jose Mathew (talk) 16:00, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

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@Jose Mathew C: Okay that all makes sense. I wanted to be sure because I think that journalists and researchers are more likely to reuse this article than is common. It seems that the content came from that other long and growing article, and this is a good split. Again, good job. Blue Rasberry (talk) 16:48, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

Correct the Indian map?

Please change the map of India. Include the parts of J & K & Ladhak in map. Nitesh003 (talk) 17:53, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Hi, I have made a new one and posted it on the next thread. Could someone replace it with the new one please?Georgek98 (talk) 00:13, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

@Nitesh003: fixed check it out Blue Rasberry (talk) 00:39, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

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 – Jaswinder1122 (talk) 05:16, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Made a new Indian map

Hi, could a moderator/editor of this article replace the Indian Map with this map here? I am the original creator of the website to which the image comes from. Thanks!Georgek98 (talk) 00:12, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

@Georgek98: Done, see edit. Blue Rasberry (talk) 00:39, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Thank you @Bluerasberry:!!Georgek98 (talk) 17:33, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

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 – Jaswinder1122 (talk) 05:16, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Data and formatting inconsistency

The statewide table lists West Bengal twice. And I could not find this table in the source cited (MoHFW).

Also, this page uses both the Indian and the International number systems. Shouldn't we stick to one? -Jose Mathew (talk) 13:36, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

Privates sales of vaccine

Is it so that a tourist who is under 45 years old can't yet buy a vaccine at a private clinic?

Can you give links to websites of such private clinics in Mumbai? --ee1518 (talk) 22:18, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

@Ee1518:, Hi Ee1518 you can book for an appointment in private clinics or public clinics using link given below

FYI

 – https://selfregistration.cowin.gov.in

Jaswinder1122 (talk) 13:52, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

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 – Jaswinder1122 (talk) 05:16, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Get Vaccinated 18+ in India and Lets Talk one and all His/Her Sharable points here for BETTER REACH

Lets share, talk, chat, like, dislike and comments all yours positive and critics views. HONESTLY, to help 700Crore citizen of Mother Earth (22Appril as Mother Nature International Day). Lets Celebrate it with all the wellness in all manner. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ssenwiki18411 (talk • contribs) 15:19, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

Off-topic

Jaswinder1122 (talk) 04:54, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Covid-19 vaccination map updation issue

Hi @Vsa111:, Please visit the website first https://ncovtrack.com/vaccine/india/states and match the map with to confirm the update. Happy Editing!Jaswinder1122 (talk) 10:07, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

Stale

 – There seems to have been no interest. Jaswinder1122 (talk) 05:13, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Covid daily vaccinations numbers are different than OWID

@Jaswinder1122: Hi! I'm using owid Github for the source of vaccine data. An Excel formula of today - last day gives daily vaccination numbers. The ones you added yesterday and today are different from what https://ncovtrack.com/vaccine/india and I came up with. First dose should've been `1273729, 1565044, 952018`, not `1273729, 1565044, 1114214`. For second dose, it should be `941651, 1164291, 676200`, and not `941651, 1164291, 712005` it seems. Could you confirm ? AdithyaKL (talk) 08:54, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

@AdithyaKL:, Hi I have Used the Ministry of Health and Family Welfare website and this is the official website of the department of health regarding covid-19. I suggest we should use this website for the update. I hope that your query is answered if still something I can help please ping me. Thanks, Jaswinder1122 (talk) 09:20, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

@Jaswinder1122: Okay, if the data of mohfw from the past is available somewhere in machine-friendly form, LMK. If not, we'll just have to check daily. AdithyaKL (talk) 09:38, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

@AdithyaKL: sure, I will try to find the form. Happy editing.

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 – Issue Resolved Jaswinder1122 (talk) 05:01, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

% population vaccinated doesn't need a chart

Hi @Vsa111:, "% of people vaccinated" numbers can be seen in the infobox as well state wise numbers. The pie chart doesn't add much to the info already available and is a burden to maintain. I suggest that it's removed. AdithyaKL (talk) 11:31, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

I agree with you, that’s what even I thought when I saw it. Another user had created it but I didn’t want to revert it single handedly. I understand how hard it is updating the existing data itself! Vsa111 (talk) 03:35, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

Oh @Vsa111: I misread the history. Thanks for discussing, and removing the charts. @Aqua243:, please respond here if you want to discuss the reversal. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=COVID-19_vaccination_in_India&type=revision&diff=1024114257&oldid=1024106963 AdithyaKL (talk) 10:36, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

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AdithyaKL (talk) 06:05, 31 May 2021 (UTC)

Others?

In the section where it shows doses by gender, the genders are male, female, and others.What does it mean by others?I think it might confuse some readers by saying others. 73.93.73.104 (talk) 20:06, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

What do you want it to replace "others" with? Others in India is equivalent to transgender people who don't conform to either gender or Intersex people in other countries. Also, see LGBT rights in India#Transgender rights and Portal:LGBT. To reduce confusion, we could add links to wikipedia articles for all three genders. Like male, female, others. - AdithyaKL (talk) 06:29, 22 May 2021 (UTC)

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AdithyaKL (talk) 06:04, 31 May 2021 (UTC)

Universal or just expanded

Can the covid-19 vaccine drive in India now be called "universal"; considering that the Indian government opened up vaccines for all adults (18+) from 1 May 2021. However, the government opening up covid-19 vaccines for everyone doesn't mean getting vaccines is compulsory; as opposed to the Universal Immunisation Programme which is compulsory. Can the covid-19 vaccine drive in India now be called universal? (In the same way we have universal adult franchise?)

Accordingly we can sum up India's COVID-19 vaccination policy as follows: India has moved from a priority-based/targeted vaccine policy to a (voluntary) universal vaccine policy. DTM (talk) 08:28, 5 June 2021 (UTC)

References

In practice, 45+ slots are more in number than 18+ slots. If it were truly a universal policy, there would be no age based slotting system. AdithyaKL (talk) 09:24, 6 June 2021 (UTC)

Vaccine wastage

Part of the to-do list of this article is to include some content on vaccine wastage. DTM (talk) 13:42, 5 June 2021 (UTC)

Percentage reduction in vaccine wastage between 22 April 2021 and 25 May 2021 in select states in India

Please update the spelling of 'trials'

Can you please update the spelling of trials in the "Vaccine on order" table as it is spelled as 'trails'. Whenever I try to change it, it removes the table formatting and shows only code. Nsn2635 (talk) 03:02, 21 June 2021 (UTC)

@Nsn2635: Done. AdithyaKL (talk) 07:43, 21 June 2021 (UTC)

About Reporting Adverse Effects

While we must report adverse effects following vaccination, I think we need to be careful both to put the numbers in context and to clarify misconceptions about the vaccine. I have added a short paragraph st the beginning of the section explaining the common side-effects and quoting an article that points out how not all adverse events may be caused by the vaccine. Considering that this is a bit of a political issue, do you think this would go against WP:NPOV? Also, do you think it would be appropriate to list common misconceptions about the vaccine as a subsection? -Jose Mathew (talk) 14:34, 21 June 2021 (UTC)

@Vsa111:, the source I initially provided is a well-known newspaper. In response to your complaint, I added a second news website that provided the exact same numbers. Finally, I added information from the Indian and British governments' official websites. Which part of this do you object to? -Jose Mathew (talk) 20:54, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

I noticed you provided additional citation. As much as it is important to report adverse affects I think we must me careful in what we add, as we know half truth may increase vaccine hesitancy. I appreciate the section explaining the common side-effects and quoting an article that points out how not all adverse events may be caused by the vaccine. Adding a section about misconceptions would be appropriate to the COVID-19 Vaccination page this article would be more about the statistics, timeline and events of the vaccination program in India, Don’t you agree? Vsa111 (talk) 03:43, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

@Vsa111:, I understand your concern about giving more publicity to vaccine hesitancy or misinformation. There is a section under COVID-19 misinformation about vaccine misconceptions, so I guess it is not needed here, at least for now. -Jose Mathew (talk) 06:20, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

Timeline section : New vaccination regime

A recent edit to bring WP:BALANCE to the section was removed with the comment "This section is for the time line of vaccination program only". Judging by that and to maintain a WP:NPOV may I suggest removing the POV claim about it being a record of inoculations on the same day? Removed content:

It was claimed that the record was manufactured by slowing down vaccinations in several states ruled by the BJP in the lead up to the 21st. Vaccines administered in Madhya Pradesh dropped from 338,847 on June 16 to just 692 on June 20. Similar but less severe drops were noted in Uttar Pradesh, Karnataka, Assam and Gujarat.

References

Ujwal.Xankill3r (talk) 16:15, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

The statement in the article, that the number of jabs on 21 June was 'highest ever since the vaccination drive started', is factually correct. I am not sure whether the allegation of reduction in vaccinations on the previous days should be included. If you feel that the section in its current form is biased, I would suggest tagging it with Template:POV section and starting a discussion here. -Jose Mathew (talk) 21:22, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

I will do that. The statement is indeed factual but presenting it without mentioning the severe dip in vaccinations over the previous days would be lacking WP:BALANCE. There are similar issues in the article - mostly surrounding the new regime. Another example is the fact that the Supreme Court case and observation against the previous 50(union)-25(state)-25(private) regime is missing. Perhaps there needs to be a Criticism section focusing only on the vaccination drives? Off the top of my head topics to include in it would be - late purchase of vaccines, very low vaccine orders placed, requirement of digital device for vaccine registration, unequal pricing regimes and allowing private hospitals to charge for vaccines and lack of a truly universal vaccine program for Covid-19. Most of these criticisms have been widely raised by medical and other civil society groups (local, national and international), and many of them have made their way to the courts with the courts in some cases giving judgements or making observations that were unfavourable to the union government. -Ujwal.Xankill3r (talk) 09:35, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

@Ujwal.Xankill3r:, observations made by the courts / medical bodies, as well as factual statements (e.g. "Vaccinations in MP were x% less on this day, compared to the previous y days.") should be fine as long as they are properly cited. I suppose your previous edit was removed because of the way it was worded. Please add the information you have in a more impartial language (see WP:IMPARTIAL). Thank you. -Jose Mathew (talk) 03:33, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

@Ujwal.Xankill3r:, try to use reports in national / major regional newspapers as sources, to ensure credibility. These might be useful - [1], [2], [3], [4] and [5]. -Jose Mathew (talk) 03:51, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

Thank you - I will do so. -Ujwal.Xankill3r (talk) 14:15, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

I have added stats both before and after the 21st for context on the "record". I'll make the other edits that I think are missing soon. Thank you again for providing the citations. -Ujwal.Xankill3r (talk) 14:31, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

Vaccination percentage

I have seen all other vaccination pages from other countries including the US, UK, Australia and Canada using only eligible population figures (12/16 years or older only) for their percentage calculation for their 1st and 2nd dose. My opinion is to use 18 years or older population figures instead of the whole population figure. Lucifer Jatt (talk) 13:26, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 13 August 2021

Please change

|[[BBV154]] | Adenovirus vector (intranasal) | {{operational|In progress}} | {{pending}} | {{pending}}

to

|[[BBV154]] | Adenovirus vector (intranasal) | {{yes C| Completed}} | {{operational|In progress}} | {{pending}}

at the COVID-19_vaccination_in_India#Vaccines_in_trial_stage table. The vaccine candidate has completed the p-I trials and received approval for p-II/III trials. Thank you.

References

2409:4061:49F:2EED:1894:22AF:2FD4:4420 (talk) 18:06, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

 Done Abrilando232 (talk) 00:43, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 August 2021

Please change (1)

|[[ZyCoV-D]] |{{pending|Awaiting}} | - |240 million <ref>{{Cite web|author=Staff Writer|date=2021-04-24|title=Cadila Healthcare starts production of Covid vaccine candidate|url=https://www.livemint.com/companies/news/cadila-healthcare-starts-production-of-covid-vaccine-candidate-11619244017749.html|access-date=2021-04-27|website=mint|language=en}}</ref> | 50 million <ref name=":HT12" /> |{{pending|Awaiting}} |{{No X|Not yet}}

to

|[[ZyCoV-D]] |{{yes C|Approved}} | - |240 million <ref>{{Cite web|author=Staff Writer|date=2021-04-24|title=Cadila Healthcare starts production of Covid vaccine candidate|url=https://www.livemint.com/companies/news/cadila-healthcare-starts-production-of-covid-vaccine-candidate-11619244017749.html|access-date=2021-04-27|website=mint|language=en}}</ref> | 50 million <ref name=":HT12" /> |{{yes C|20 August 2021}} |{{No X|Not yet}}

at the COVID-19_vaccination_in_India#Vaccine_on_order table. ZyCoV-D has received authorization from Drugs Controller General of India.

and (2) REMOVE/DELETE

|[[ZyCoV-D]] | DNA (plasmid expressing SARS‑CoV‑2 S protein) | {{yes C| Completed}} | {{yes C| Completed}} | {{yes C| Completed}} | style="text-align:Center;" |30,000 |240 million

from the COVID-19_vaccination_in_India#Vaccines_in_trial_stage table as its no more in trial stage. Thank you 42.106.201.83 (talk) 15:23, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

References

Request help from last active editor @Abrilando232: 42.106.201.83 (talk) 15:25, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

 Done Abrilando232 (talk) 15:37, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

@Abrilando232: Thanks and can you make the necessary changes as per this Talk:ZyCoV-D#Extended-confirmed-protected_edit_request_on_20_August_2021 at ZyCoV-D. 42.106.201.83 (talk) 15:46, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 25 August 2021

Please change

|[[HGC019]] | mRNA | {{operational|In progress}} | {{pending}} | {{pending}}

to

|[[HGC019]] | mRNA | {{yes C| Completed}} | {{operational|In progress}} | {{pending}}

in the Vaccines in trial stage table. The vaccine candidate has been given a go ahead for phase II trials.

References

42.106.215.214 (talk) 14:14, 25 August 2021 (UTC)

 Done. ◢  Ganbaruby!  (talk) 20:51, 25 August 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 August 2021

Total vaccinations not updated. For regular fast updates use source : https://dashboard.cowin.gov.in/ 103.211.60.77 (talk) 16:42, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 14:58, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

Anticipating 17 Sep record and potential issues

There have been reports that the government attempted to set a vaccination record on the 17th of September (i.e. today) on occasion of Narendra Modi's birthday celebrations.[6] I anticipate that we will see edits starting tomorrow regarding the same. There is also a very high likelihood that this will just be a repeat of what happened on 21st June (significant drops in vaccination rates leading upto the targeted "record day") and we must practice due caution when introducing edits. I expect attempts to add non-neutral content. - Ujwal.Xankill3r (talk) 16:07, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

• I have rewritten the statement on the record added by another editor. The previous text was a direct copy-paste from the source and did not have a neutral tone. I have also merged this into the section "ZyCoV-D approval for ages 12 & above" as just a single statement on a record does not seem to merit a new section. All previous sections have been created based on significant new vaccine approvals or changes in vaccine delivery rules. -Ujwal.Xankill3r (talk) 12:19, 18 September 2021 (UTC)

Vaccine record statement moved from Lead to body

I have moved the statement on the 17th September single day record to the body of the article. The statement isn't noteworthy enough to be in the lead - just like all the previous records that had been set. -Ujwal.Xankill3r (talk) 10:14, 19 September 2021 (UTC)

Merger of 17 September record statement into previous section

The record set on 17th record definitely deserves a mention in the article but does not really constitute a major shift in India's vaccination policy. The sub-sections in the Background and Timeline section are all organized around major shifts in our policy - vaccine approvals, central procurement of vaccines, etc. Please let's keep it that way otherwise we'll end up creating meaningless sub-sections that don't give a reader a good understanding of how the policy has evolved. -Ujwal.Xankill3r (talk) 07:56, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

Fake/Error vaccination certificates

Apparently there were a number of incorrect vaccination certificates sent out in MP, this had happened earlier in June as well. That said this is just one report so far that I have read so we should probably not include it in the article right away.[7] Let's keep an eye out and add this info as and when it gets more significant coverage. We can also have a separate section talking about such slipups - deliberate or otherwise. -Ujwal.Xankill3r (talk) 06:32, 23 September 2021 (UTC)

90 crore vaccine doses achieved

Please can someone update the lede to show that we've now passed 90 crore doses https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/over-90-crore-covid-vaccine-doses-administered-in-india-health-minister/articleshow/86704014.cms — Preceding unsigned comment added by BengalBob (talk • contribs) 09:27, 2 October 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 October 2021

Aaryan Maahir (talk) 05:25, 21 October 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Cannolis (talk) 06:18, 21 October 2021 (UTC)

no information of use of ivermectin

the ivermectin word don't appear in the article . Does some indian country use it and after not ? if yes the article should cover a little ivermectine and where it was use  : goa,uttar pradesh ,kerala... thank's 23:32, 23 October 2021 (UTC)~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.165.3.11 (talk)

Semi-protected edit request on 3 November 2021

Please Update State Wise Updated Percentage for first dose,second dose,and all doses Please Update State Wise Vaccination Percentage atleast 10 days a month as this is visible to our entire country 124.123.177.28 (talk) 03:13, 3 November 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Give those percentages yourself, using reliable sources. —twotwofourtysix^{(My talk page and contributions)} 08:19, 3 November 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 3 January 2022

Update total vaccination number to reflect the reference. <quote> As of 31 December 2021, India has administered over 1.44 billion doses overall, including first and second doses of the currently-approved vaccines.<ref> <end quote>. As of Jan 3rd 2022, the reference website in this quote says the fully vaccinated number is 44.97%, and one dose number is 62.69%. Recorded here on 3rd Jan 2022 on web archive:https://web.archive.org/web/20220103220258/https://vaccinate-india.in/dashboard Bhsoman (talk) 20:46, 3 January 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format more clearly. Kpddg ^(talk) 04:49, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

Formatting

The section for Punjab seems quite awkwardly formatted, is there any way to improve that? Captain Jack Sparrow (talk) 21:23, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

Removing Vaccination by state

We should remove vaccination by state. I have four reasons:-

• It's hard to update because we have a few editors. We can use our time to improve other articles.
• Not all states mentioned, so it will take more.
• We have a table in this article, shows state wise data.
• It's increasing size of article.

I would like to completely remove this section OR we can use only table and state wise pi chart instead writing. Dinesh | Talk 08:55, 3 February 2022 (UTC)

Agree, we should only include table and pi chart.❯❯❯Pravega ^g=9.8 09:49, 3 February 2022 (UTC)

 Done Dinesh | Talk 08:50, 6 March 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 March 2022

Indian CoVID-19 Vaccination Certificate

49.207.217.52 (talk) 03:46, 27 March 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. MadGuy7023 (talk) 21:43, 30 March 2022 (UTC)

Error in the number of Precautionary Doses in the summary of the article to the Right hand side of the screen (below the Indian Map)

The number is given as 220,2925,508 erroneously. It should be 222,925,508 instead. KiranCNayak (talk) 15:04, 13 February 2023 (UTC)

Chanduru

kovai seeld

d 188.248.40.67 (talk) 15:14, 15 September 2023 (UTC)