Talk:Binchōtan

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the debate was PAGE MOVED, per discussion below. The only opposition was for a reason that doesn't really make sense in light of WP:MOS-JA. -GTBacchus^(talk) 22:50, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Requested move

Bincho-tan → Binchōtan — This may seem a rather excessive, over-blown effort for such a minor article, however the move could not be processed using the move page manually, hence I am following the requested moves procedure. Background: there is a disambiguation need for binchōtan, which can also be spelled as binchō-tan, binchotan, and bincho-tan. Rather than having one be the title for the coal article and another for the anime (which would be confusing, not to mention where the redirects should point to), I decided to move the anime article to a more explicit title, "Binchō-tan (anime)" to avoid confusion, while the coal article will be awarded a shorter title, since it is the term originally used, and also the etymological source of the anime title.

Bincho-tan should be moved to Binchōtan to adhere to WP:MOS-JA (Wikipedia policy): "(Japanese) article titles should use macrons..." Also, the hyphen is not essential, so I decided that I would want that removed while we are at it. Hyphens in Japanese romanizations rarely correspond to a punctution or pronounciation feature in the original Japanese text. Tokek 16:24, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Survey

Add  * '''Support'''  or  * '''Oppose'''  on a new line followed by a brief explanation, then sign your opinion using ~~~~.

• Support, in case it wasn't obvious. Also, in case nobody else cares to cast a vote. —Tokek 16:29, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
• Oppose: use English. Jonathunder 23:28, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment: This is a survey on whether to keep the article at Bincho-tan or to move it to Binchōtan. Only saying "use English" simply makes no sense. —Tokek 21:13, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Sorry if that was overly abbreviated, but I oppose moving and support keeping it at Bincho-tan because that appears to be the more common name in English. Jonathunder 22:51, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

• Comment We've decided to use macrons in the title. As for the hyphen, I'm happy with any of the usual three possibilities: a space, a hyphen, or neither. Fg2 21:54, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Discussion

Add any additional comments: Doesn't much matter to me. I hyphenated it to use the hyphen to separate the two components: "bincho" is the contraction of the person's name, and "tan" means "charcoal" making "Bincho-charcoal." I don't see it in MW, OED, EB. Chicago advises using hyphens sparingly in Japanese words, though, so I don't think it's a big deal. Fg2 21:25, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

After-thought: I may have been able to use WP:CSD G6 on this one had I been wiser at the time. —Tokek 03:26, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Commercial site?

I removed the link to Sort of Coal.com, which to me appears to be a commercial site offering pretty products but no additional information. Also, the whole "experience the “chi” energy exerting a positive effect on both your environment and your well-being" raises warning signs to me -- like how common quartz crystals skyrocketed in price when "new age" became popular.

Probably too much info, there. --Robaato (talk) 16:04, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

...and I put it back, because I was mistaken. I was browsing shop.sortofcoal.com, instead of www.sortofcoal.com. Sorry. --Robaato (talk) 16:09, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

You were right to remove the link in the first place. sortofcoal.com is neither a scientific nor a general-information site. Its sole purpose is to promote the products sold through the webshop at the subdomain shop.sortofcoal.com. The unsourced, unverifiable "science" claims made at the site by "Tina Brandt Jensen, biochemist" are just a collection of anecdotes. The link violates WP:EL#ADV and WP:V, so I re-removed it. --Bwiki (talk) 14:35, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Wording in Article

"To differentiate the aforementioned "non-pure" products," this phrase is used in the article, but the word 'aforementioned' is used wrong. This is the first (and only) time the word pure is even used (let alone non-pure), so it was obviously never mentioned before. I do not know if the following paragraph used to be before it or not, which is why I haven't edited the article myself. 2600:1700:6250:89A0:0:0:0:1A (talk) 18:00, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

Getting rid of japanese links?

Tons of links here point to the japanese wikipedia, which I can almost guarantee that most visitors can't read, so these are rather annoying. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ymk1234 (talk • contribs) 21:22, 28 February 2020 (UTC)