Talk:Benjamin Disraeli/GA1

GA Reassessment

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This article has been reviewed as part of Wikipedia:WikiProject Good articles/Project quality task force in an effort to ensure all listed Good articles continue to meet the Good article criteria. In reviewing the article, I have found there are some issues that may need to be addressed, listed below. I will check back in seven days. If these issues are addressed, the article will remain listed as a Good article. Otherwise, it may be delisted (such a decision may be challenged through WP:GAR). If improved after it has been delisted, it may be nominated at WP:GAN. Feel free to drop a message on my talk page if you have any questions, and many thanks for all the hard work that has gone into this article thus far.

• This article is generally excellent, but there are a few areas where it needs some tidying up.

Early life

• Last paragraph is uncited.
  • Cited. Also improved citations on education. Mackensen (talk) 14:33, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Literary career

• Second and third paragraphs are uncited.
  • Added cite for Henrietta. Mackensen (talk) 14:33, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Protection

• First paragraph is inadequately cited.
  • Additional cites added. Mackensen (talk) 14:33, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Bentinck and the Leadership

• First paragraph is uncited.
  • Cited. Mackensen (talk) 14:33, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
• Any particular reason why "Leadership" is capitalised?
  • None. De-capitalized. Mackensen (talk) 14:33, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Imperialism

• First and last paragraps are uncited.
  • Some cites added. Imperialism, indeed the whole second term, is inadequate and should probably be rewritten, but I don't think any of it as it stands is inaccurate. Mackensen (talk) 14:33, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Films depicting Disraeli

• This looks suspiciously like a disguised Trivia section. Is this a complete list? What's its purpose? Can a case be made for keeping it?
  • I wouldn't mind chucking it myself. I think a worthwhile paragraph could be written discussing portrayals of Disraeli (e.g. Sir Antony Sher in Mrs. Brown), but that list isn't much use. Removed. Mackensen (talk) 14:33, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Disraeli's Judaism

• I'm not sure what the purpose of this section is supposed to be; it looks like it's just been tagged on at the end to include a quotation from a book review. Whatever's relevant here, if anything, would probably be better intergrated into the article proper.
  • Well, it's a special topic all of its own. Disraeli's relationship to Judaism (and Christianity) was unusual. The real issue is that most biographies have treated Disraeli from a political perspective (Monypenny & Buckle, Blake), which has left Disraeli's Judaism less explored. Adam Kirsch has written just in the last year or two a reassessment, but most of the article was written before that. I'm open to suggestions on integrating the information within the chronological structure of the article but I think it also works on its own. Mackensen (talk) 14:33, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

• Judaism is a religion, not an ethnic group.
  • Disraeli would disagree with you. Mackensen (talk) 14:33, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
  • Well, rather, Disraeli would claim to be Jewish despite being a convert. I may have the nuances wrong. Mackensen (talk) 14:39, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
    • Disraeli would of course not dispute his Jewishness, but his Judaism? I'd prefer this to be renamed Disraeli's Jewishness if it's felt to be significant enough to warrant its own section, but I don't feel strongly enough about that to hold up the reassessment. --Malleus Fatuorum 16:49, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Title and death

• This section needs to be cited.
  • Cited. Mackensen (talk) 14:33, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Disraeli's governments

• we've already been told about Disraeli's governments earlier in the article. What's the point of listing them again in them again in this very short section?
  • Convention for articles on British prime ministers. Mackensen (talk) 14:33, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

References

• All online citations should have full details, including publisher and last accessdate.
  • Done, I think. Mackensen (talk) 14:39, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

• The Encyclopedia Britannica is not a suitable source for an encyclopedia article.
  • Couldn't agree more. I have no idea why we have four cites for the fact that he's Britain's only Jewish prime minister. I don't know that it need be cited at all. Removed all but the cite to the official government website, which should do. Mackensen (talk) 14:33, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

--Malleus Fatuorum 17:12, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

• Thanks for dealing withe these issues, I've now closed this reassessment. --Malleus Fatuorum 16:49, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

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