Talk:Battle of Shivneri Fort
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References Review(provided Till 9th August 2023) edit
Here is the review of all sources which are provided till 9th August 2023
1 ) - Rohit Pralhadrao Kale, Rajwata, Aavishkar Gad Killayacha :- author is not a historian neither provided bibliography - Not an Acceptable Source.
2 ) - Gazetteer of the Bombay Presidency: Poona (2 pts.)p. 226-7 :- "Primary" Source- Not Acceptable (if this is translation of that even then it wouldn't be acceptable)
3 ) - Milind Gunaji, Offbeat Tracks in Maharashtra, p. 70 :- Again author is not a historian neither provided bibliography - Not an Acceptable Source
4 ) - List of battles fought by Chhatrapati Shivaji Maharaj.Jagranjosh.com. 2022-02-18. :- Website,didn't even have information about this battle & Source of this website is Wikipedia itself - Not an Acceptable Source
5 ) - Chhattapati Shivaji Maharaj.Drishti IAS. Retrieved 2023-08-08. :- Again Website, didn't have information about this battle, Source is Wikipedia itself - Not an Acceptable Source
6 ) - Maharashtra government to host five-day event at Shivneri Fort in February.The Indian Express. 2023-01-28. Retrieved 2023-08-08. :- Website, didn't have information about this battle. - Not an Acceptable Source
7 ) - Shivneri Fort - The Glorious Birthplace Of Shivaji Maharaj.2022-02-06. Retrieved 2023-08-08. :- Website, didn't have information about this battle - Not an Acceptable Source'
8 ) - Jadunath Sarkar, Shivaji And His Times, p. 226-7 :- Although out of all the above sources only this is work of a historian but it's Pretty Dated that's why cannot acceptable & I had already told this to the creater of this article - Not an Acceptable Source See what one of Wikipedia administrators told about source of Jadunath Sarkar,https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MobileDiff/1163841364.
So out of all the above none of the sources matches the essensiality of WP:RS. If any source (in future) found then take that here,but first let it on talk page & have to be reviewed. Thank you Aryan330 (talk) 10:14, 9 August 2023 (UTC)
- How in the world did you decide that my sources were not reliable?
- You still haven't explained what a dated source.
- You still haven't explained why is Jadnuath Sarkar sources are dated.
- You still haven't summarized the points in the talk page, which I asked you to do.
- All you did was refer to a talk page that didn't provide enough reasoning.
- Gazetteer of the Bombay Presidency: Poona (2 pts.)p. 226-7 :- "Primary" Source- Not Acceptable (if this is translation of that even then it wouldn't be acceptable) they're allowed to be here as long as you have secondary sources to support them
- The battle clearly happened.
- if we go on like this to decide what's reliable or not, this is not how it's done here. You seem to have an issue with sources. عبدالرحمن4132 (talk) 10:49, 9 August 2023 (UTC)
- @عبدالرحمن4132 You are saying that primary sources have to here as till secondary sources had but there is no secondary source present as provided at this article as I explained above.I suggest you to read the reasons because these are not acceptable again.I have no issues for it but Wikipedia has.
- I have reviewed it on the basis of what senior user did.
- Administrator himself told that it's not an acceptable,in this way it seems you are having an issue with objection against your page.
- I have invited here one of administrators for personal attention. Aryan330 (talk) 10:54, 9 August 2023 (UTC)
- There is; have you even checked the citation that Gazetteer of the Bombay Presidency: Poona (2 pts.)p. 226-7 uses?
- And there's not even a consensus about Jadunath Sarkar—only one person you seemed to have taken without asking why—not enough justification. عبدالرحمن4132 (talk) 11:21, 9 August 2023 (UTC)
- @عبدالرحمن4132 You are simply behaving like WP:NOTGETTINGIT, you are not able to understood the point even after convincing you a couple of time!
- Right now you are present at the situation where you aren't aware of Wikipedia:RS. That's why I had suggested you to read the whole comments in talk of battle of Pavankhind'.
- Creating an article & adding the sources is not that simple as you are thinking.
- I am suggesting you again to read that. Aryan330 (talk) 12:54, 9 August 2023 (UTC)
- @عبدالرحمن4132 I am not saying that you are completely wrong & don't be in misconception in that I am taking it personally to you or your article,I am just saying this because I had also in same confusion that time but after being aware I got that point
as the sources which provided & not even having information of that battle were not added by you as only 1-2 sources were added by you while other(unnecessary) sources were added by another user,you are just anaware of Wikipedia:RS. & That's why I had told you to read the whole comments of talk page of battle of Pavankhind as I had also same confusion that time & I had wanted to add references to that page but after being aware at last I just not added it.