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I added his signature to the infobox. many infoboxes of royalty contain signatures.

this is a clear background version of the signature I made based on a letter. from what I read ( I could be wrong ) This would fall under the public domain.

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Hello,as you readded that statement which was removed by me on the page of 'Mughal-Maratha Wars' but I suppose you didn't read my edit summary in which I have explained that different historians have multiple views on this statement&all historians views are putted on Sambhaji's page in Capture&execution section which I recommend you to read.Interistingly all accounts including Mughals&Portuguese also there is not mentioned that he was committed atrocities in Burhanpur, that statement itself doesn't have valid source as it written by john f Richards who written most to glorify mughals.instead all other accounts says common point that Sambhaji refused to give his kingdom&to convert to islam.further in article of Mughal-Maratha wars its about his role in that war not his death summary by the way as mentioned in last some sentences he was refused to bow&beheaded so that's enough about his death.so I want you to remove that statement by yourself because if I will remove it is near to be called as edit war. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Prathmesh Bhale (talk • contribs) 07:44, 20 January 2023 (UTC)

you removed a cited opinion of a historian. Opinions of historians are usually included in articles, as they should. The section also includes other opinions as well. SKAG123 (talk) 22:28, 20 January 2023 (UTC)

Shivaji

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You should discuss the edits on talk page first and get consensus of othe active editors. Don't revert without discussion. Akshaypatill (talk) 11:18, 22 January 2023 (UTC)

I have made a discussion on the talk page Talk:Shivaji#Second position

you reverted my edits without responding or engaging in the talk section.
please engage in the talk page instead of claiming this as edit warring when you didn't have any discussion in the talk page

SKAG12318:38, 22 January 2023 (UTC)

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Edits on Shahu I page

You have basically defaced the page with improper edits. Including but not limited to adding a late 19th century painting for an early 18th century figure, excessive focus on Peshwas and lots of spelling eras. Please refrain from such edits or we should involve an experienced editor to supervise the page. DeccanFlood (talk) 08:50, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

This is a matter of discussion on the article's talk page. SKAG123 (talk) 22:01, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

July 2023

Hello @SKAG123 You are messeged me at my talk page,yes I have to discuss it on talk page but you had made False accusation on me for Abuse can you give proof that at where I had used abusive words & waht are they?As I don't used abusive words regarding that edit so refrain from these words next time! Aryan330 (talk) 02:21, 3 July 2023 (UTC)

Hello, I used the wrong template, which is why I deleted it and replaced it with the disruptive editing template. Typically when a user quickly reverts or deletes an edit or talk page message, it is a mistake. Unfortunately your edits, specifically on Sambhaji did not appear to be constructive. However you did not use any abusive language

my apologies

SKAG123 (talk) 22:19, 4 July 2023 (UTC)

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Question about signatures and seals

Hello @SKAG123, I wanted to ask if you could let me know how to transform an image of a signature or seal stamp into a black-and-white image? For example. you created this work: image

I would be grateful if you could let me know what software you use to create those images based on the original signature/seals. I wanted to create one for a seal I have. Thank you. ThethPunjabi (talk) 03:40, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

Just put the image through any e signature software and is should work. You might have manually clean up the image after. SKAG123 (talk) 03:43, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

@SKAG123 Which e-signature software do you use? I'm not the most tech-savvy tbh. ThethPunjabi (talk) 03:43, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

I use the one that comes built into a Mac but there are many available for PC as well. Lust look up “image to e signature converter” and you will find plenty. SKAG123 (talk) 03:48, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

@SKAG123 I have a Mac too, is it Preview? ThethPunjabi (talk) 03:49, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

Yes I use preview SKAG123 (talk) 03:53, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

@SKAG123 Preview only lets me sign with my touch pad or take a photo with the camera for signatures. How do you upload an image for a signature? ThethPunjabi (talk) 04:06, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

Preview works well if you have it in a separate device. Dropbox works better if you want to upload an image as a signature SKAG123 (talk) 04:10, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

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Reverted Edit on Shivaji Page

This is regarding the edit you reverted in Page on Shivaji, and your message per User talk:Nonentity683#August 2023.

1. Changes in question (made to Shivaji page) are all supported by solid Academic sources.
2. Changes are about reorganising lede for better readability. e.g. Before these changes, fact around Shivaji's coronation came up before fact around how Shivaji engaged in alliances and hostilities with Mughals etc.
3. Lede section did not contain any discussion around Shivaji's Legacy, or where Maratha Empire fits into the larger Picture of Indian History. Info on this was added, and all added info is backed by solid academic sources.
4. Before these changed, Lede section incorrectly identified People's opinions and views as Shivaji's Legacy. The two are fundamentally different.

Your reverted these changes, and message was "This talks about events that Happend well after Shivaji's death.". This revert is not valid for a number of reasons -

1. There is no guideline that states that events that happened after a person's death cannot be included in an article on that person.
2. Legacy tends to be a complicated discussion, and its timeline can stretch all the way to present.

If you have any points around specifics, we can discuss those. I would suggest that you not revert the edits without verifying sources or checking Wikipedia policies. I am seeing a lot of messages around Edit wars on your Talk page about page on Shivaji, not sure if this revert is part of a larger pattern.

For now, I'll consider this as a one off instance. If you keep blindly reverting edits for no valid reason, I reserve rights to raise this in appropriate forums. Nonentity683 (talk) 10:22, 17 August 2023 (UTC)

For reference, this version corresponds to the changes that I made and that you reverted - https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Shivaji&oldid=1170672669. Nonentity683 (talk) 10:37, 17 August 2023 (UTC)

Gordon in particular is very clear about the Northward march of Marathas. Following is an excerpt from his book -

In the 1750s, the "frontier" extended north to Delhi. In this period, the Mughal government directly controlled little territory further than fifty miles from the capital. Even this was fiercely fought over. Jats and Rohillas disputed for the territory; factions fought for the throne, and the Afghan king, Ahmad Shah Abdali, periodically descended on the capital. ... For the Marathas, probably the two most significant events of the whole chaotic period in Delhi were a treaty in 1752, which made them protector of the Mughal throne (and gave them the right to collect chauth in the Punjab), and the civil war of 1753, by which the Maratha nominee ended up on the Mughal throne.- (Cambridge History of India Vol. 2 Part 4 pp138 - 139)

Nonentity683 (talk) 10:39, 17 August 2023 (UTC)

See https://books.google.co.in/books?id=tsw2DwAAQBAJ&newbks=0&printsec=frontcover&pg=PT76&dq=They+remained+the+pre-eminent+native+power+in&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=They%20remained%20the%20pre-eminent%20native%20power%20in&f=false.

This clearly calls out that Marathas remained pre-eminent power in India until 1818.

Nonentity683 (talk) 10:40, 17 August 2023 (UTC)

please discuss this on the article's talk page. SKAG123 (talk) 17:03, 17 August 2023 (UTC)

Going forward, you might want to not send misleading messages. The Message you left on my Talk page was to discuss the changes with you on your Talk Page. Nonentity683 (talk) 18:27, 17 August 2023 (UTC)

Reverted Edit On Mughal Empire Page

Hi,

This is regarding the changes I made to page on Mughal Empire, link to version is https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mughal_Empire&oldid=1169936779. You reverted this edit with a message "Too much detail for the lead. Not nuterally written.".

"Too much detail for the lead" is not a valid reasons -

1. Even before this change, the Lede section on this page was already long. See version prior to this change - https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mughal_Empire&oldid=1169891346
2. The changes I made added 3 / 4 sentences in Lede. In any case, the change did not substantially alter the length of Lede section.

"Not nuterally written." is not a valid reason. For reference, these are the sentences that were added in Lede by change in question - "Aurangzeb's campaign against Maratha Empire nominally increased the size of Mughal Empire, but failed to achieve its objective of conquering Maratha Empire, and had a ruinous effect on Mughal Army and Treasury . After Aurangzeb's death, Marathas started conquest of Mughal Territories and became the dominant power in subcontinent . Reduced subsequently to the region in and around Old Delhi by 1760, the Mughal empire was formally dissolved by the British Raj after the Indian Rebellion of 1857."

1. These are all backed by solid Academic Sources.
2. That Aurangzeb's campaign increased the size of Mughal Empire is already mentioned in Article.
3. That Aurangzeb's campaign failed to achieve its objective or that it had ruinous effect on Mughal Army and Treasure is a consensus in Academic community. See Sarkar, and Gordon, and
4. As for last two sentences, see Sarkar, Gordon, and in general any established source on Mughal-Maratha Wars and decline of Mughal Empire.

Gordon in particular is very clear about the Northward march of Marathas. Following is an excerpt from his book -

In the 1750s, the "frontier" extended north to Delhi. In this period, the Mughal government directly controlled little territory further than fifty miles from the capital. Even this was fiercely fought over. Jats and Rohillas disputed for the territory; factions fought for the throne, and the Afghan king, Ahmad Shah Abdali, periodically descended on the capital.

...

For the Marathas, probably the two most significant events of the whole chaotic period in Delhi were a treaty in 1752, which made them protector of the Mughal throne (and gave them the right to collect chauth in the Punjab), and the civil war of 1753, by which the Maratha nominee ended up on the Mughal throne.- (Cambridge History of India Vol. 2 Part 4 pp138 - 139)

As such, the charge of "Not neutrally written " is not substantiated.

Would again suggest that you not blindly revert edits without checking sources and without good reasons.

Nonentity683 (talk) 10:35, 17 August 2023 (UTC)

See https://books.google.co.in/books?id=tsw2DwAAQBAJ&newbks=0&printsec=frontcover&pg=PT76&dq=They+remained+the+pre-eminent+native+power+in&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=They%20remained%20the%20pre-eminent%20native%20power%20in&f=false.

This clearly calls out that Marathas remained pre-eminent power in India until 1818. Nonentity683 (talk) 10:38, 17 August 2023 (UTC)

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Image removal of Vande Bharat sleeper

Dear @SKAG123,

The image which you had thought of as rendered image, it's an artist's impression of the trainset. It's not a reality which will be running in the upcoming years. This is just a prototype image and can be kept unless updates from officials release the picture of the actual look of the trainset. So I'd say W.R.T. @Arnav Bhate keep the image in that wikipage as it is and when the actual photo be released then the impression image can be replaced with the real prototype image. Santosh4118 (talk) 11:13, 20 November 2023 (UTC)

I removed the image. You added it back here. Your edit looks like a mistake. SKAG123 (talk) 22:32, 20 November 2023 (UTC)

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Chola Empire

Hi SKAG123, I've done my best with this article but it might be worth checking I haven't misread of misinterpreted something, since the English in some places was a bit dodgy. There are also some uncited sections and sub-sections; "Founding" has two uncited paragraphs and "Chola–Chalukya wars" is entirely uncited. Anyway, I hope the c/e is useful; good luck with the article and cheers, Baffle☿gab 06:37, 5 December 2023 (UTC)

Chola Empire Map

Hi SKAG123, I request you to change the map of Chola Empire in Sri Lanka region. Entire Sri Lanka is part of Chola Empire. Source: Spencer, G. W. The Politics of Plunder: The Cholas in Eleventh-Century Ceylon. The Journal of Asian Studies 1976, 35 (3), 405–419. https://doi.org/10.2307/2053272 According to Spencer, “Under Rajendra Chola I, perhaps the most aggressive king of his line, Chola raids were launched southward from Rajarattha into Rohana. By his fifth year, Rajendra claimed to have completely conquered Ceylon, a claim that has led some historians to assert that Rajendra "completed" the conquest Rajaraja had begun. But the Cholas never really consolidated their control over southern Ceylon, which in any case lacked large and prosperous settlements to tempt long-term Chola occupation". If you read that you can understand that Cholas never Consolidated(Strengthen) their control over South Ceylon which means they had control but they didn't Strengthen their control. I am not sure about South East Asia Region,but sure about Sri Lanka that was part of Chola empire.So change the map now. Ranithraj (talk) 15:25, 7 December 2023 (UTC)

I don’t know how to do that. May try asking a different user. SKAG123 (talk) 04:47, 8 December 2023 (UTC)

Thank you, please use this Image

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/dd/Chola_Empire_map.svg Ranithraj (talk) 05:39, 8 December 2023 (UTC)

Hi SKAG123, I found that how to change the map. In the image_map, add this "Chola Empire map.svg". Ranithraj (talk) 06:16, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

Battle of Khetri

Hello. I have noticed that you moved the article battle of Khetri. Read this discussion over here and make sure that we can't invent names for battles, which are not named by historians themselves. There are several other articles like "Battle of X" just because it was happened at X. What are your thoughts on this? Imperial^[AFCND] 07:07, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

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Accurate map of Chola Empire

Hi SKAG123, I requested you to change the map of Chola Empire in Sri Lanka region. Then you Said "I don’t know how to do that. May try asking a different user".Till now the map is not changed. Today I saw that chola empire page is under protection. That is really good to remove vandalism. Here I provide you the necessary source from which we can make a map of chola empire.I will give you three sources. 1)Source: Spencer, G. W. The Politics of Plunder: The Cholas in Eleventh-Century Ceylon. The Journal of Asian Studies 1976, 35 (3), 405–419. https://doi.org/10.2307/2053272 According to Spencer, “Under Rajendra Chola I, perhaps the most aggressive king of his line, Chola raids were launched southward from Rajarattha into Rohana. By his fifth year, Rajendra claimed to have completely conquered Ceylon, a claim that has led some historians to assert that Rajendra "completed" the conquest Rajaraja had begun. But the Cholas never really consolidated their control over southern Ceylon, which in any case lacked large and prosperous settlements to tempt long-term Chola occupation". If you read that you can understand that Cholas never Consolidated(Strengthen) their control over South Ceylon which means they had control but they didn't Strengthen their control. By this we can find Entire Sri Lanka is part of Chola Empire.

2)Source: History of Sri Lanka by K. M De Silva. He said "He was captured by the Invading Cholas in 1017 and died in captivity in South India, The conquest of the island was completed under Rajaraja's son Rajendra. The southern parts of the island slipped out of cholas control within a short time. ".page no: 26.

3) Source: Author: KA Nilakanta sastry book named 'The Colas' on page 200,he says"Rajendra’s success was complete, and the whole of the island became a Cola province".

I gave you three sources you take your time to read not only this but also you can find it in the original book and come to the conclusion. Thank you SKAG123. Ranithraj (talk) 06:29, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

Please discuss this on the articles talk page. SKAG123 (talk) 17:50, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

Yeah I have discussed it on the article talk page. Can you change the map now? Ranithraj (talk) 05:25, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

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Hello @SKAG123, it's a pleasure to be talking to you. As you may have noticed, I made an edit regarding the religion of Tipu Sultan supported by WP:RS and even responded to the concerns raised by providing direct quotations from the book. However, user DeepstoneV has refused to acknowledge this and keeps reverting these edits.Furthermore they've made rather unconstructive comments,when presented with a source that verified the information,such as "Sew the source". Any thoughts on this? Thanks Salman Cooper Mapping (talk) 16:07, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

Revert

Come on dude seriously? I made two edits. The first one had an edit summary. Why do I even bother writing them if no one is gonna read them and then tell me that I didn't write a summary at all 🤦🏻 Rolando 1208 (talk) 19:57, 19 March 2024 (UTC)

This edit of yours did not have an edit summery. Please use one next time as it helps distinguish constructive edits from vandalism SKAG123 (talk) 21:31, 19 March 2024 (UTC)

Got it. Still, your automated response was kind of condescending. Explaining how to write edit summaries and all. I'm not a new user. Rolando 1208 (talk) 23:07, 19 March 2024 (UTC)

Revert

You reverted my edits with the reason that I didn't provide valid reason in edit summary. However, I put a valid reason. And those edits are not even sourced in first place, yet you mention that the edits are sourced. Luigi Boy ルアイヂ ボイ ^talk 16:09, 3 April 2024 (UTC)

The content was sourced in the articles body and You removed it. Please use the articles talk page and provide sources. SKAG123 (talk) 16:14, 3 April 2024 (UTC)

Regarding this edit [1], I don't see any source. The source that precede resp. succeed don't mention this fact. Btw how are you going to source something that doesn't exist in first place? Someone who claims should provide the source. Luigi Boy ルアイヂ ボイ ^talk 16:25, 3 April 2024 (UTC)

I've also added a note as you wished that there should be a discussion. You may look into it: Talk Luigi Boy ルアイヂ ボイ ^talk 16:49, 3 April 2024 (UTC)

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Move of Maratha Empire

Hello. I noticed your proposal to rename "Maratha Empire" to "Maratha Confederacy." However, wouldn't it be more fitting to suggest renaming it to "Marathas of Satara"? The rulers referred to as the "Maratha empire" in the article were actually the rulers of Satara. Other Maratha states, such as Indore State, Bhonsles of Nagpur, and Gwalior State, even engaged in campaigns against each other and at times against the Marathas of Satara themselves. Is it appropriate to label it as the "Maratha Empire"? Alternatively, perhaps there isn't an article for the Marathas of Satara. It seems peculiar to consider the rulers of the "Maratha Empire" solely as the rulers of Satara, especially considering the changing power among other Maratha states over time. What are your thoughts on this matter? Imperial^[AFCND] 11:02, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

I have another concern regarding the use of "Maratha Empire" for the military campaigns of Shivaji, Sambhaji, and Rajaram. During their reigns, they were not governing an "Empire." Even the New Cambridge History of India does not refer to the Marathas under their rule as an "Empire." Imperial^[AFCND] 11:06, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

The article also talks about the Peshawas and other Maratha states so I would oppose it. SKAG123 (talk) 15:51, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

It is all mixed up. But don't you think Marathas of Satara needs a seperate article? Or atleast an attribution in the Maratha Empire? The informations about Peshwas couldn't be added at Peshwa and other respective articles? Imperial^[AFCND] 15:59, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

There is the Satara State article. It could be a expanded. SKAG123 (talk) 17:33, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

Yeah. An expansion is needed as its establishment date dates from 1818, which is actually the fall of Marathas of Satara. Imperial^[AFCND] 17:41, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

@SKAG123 and @ImperialAficionado, I've recreated the move request. I had been unable to voice my support in your original one because I was busy at that time. Please check Talk:Maratha Empire. PadFoot2008 (talk) 11:16, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

Hey Skag, could you please look up some additional battles on Wikipedia that are considered to be based on low-context information or heavily unreliable sources regarding the Maratha invasions of Punjab?such as Siege of Sirhind Hassan Gangu (talk) 21:26, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

Gupta empire's inaccurate map

Hello, Mr. SKAG. You should join the discussion in the Gupta Empire's Talk section article. I'm planning to initiate a campaign to remove the inaccurate map of the Gupta Empire, which merges different historical eras into one. Your opinion would be valuable there. DeepstoneV (talk) 10:19, 29 April 2024 (UTC)