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Question

Latest comment: 6 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

When does Andrew cuomo's term end? Iamthemostwanted2015 (talk) 00:50, 21 July 2017 (UTC)Iamthemostwanted2015

Title?

Latest comment: 7 years ago3 comments3 people in discussion

Should the bio section have the title "His Excellency?" None of the other state governors have that.

24.188.99.19 (talk) 04:02, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

Nope. Removed.Flyte35 (talk) 14:25, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

The nickname -- "Andy" -- included in the first line as part of Andrew Cuomo's full name should be removed. Andrew Cuomo is never referred to as "Andy" by friends, family or acquaintances. Any article about him will show that parents, siblings, friends, political colleagues all refer to him as "Andrew." Perhaps someone included the nickname here in an attempt to be demeaning. I believe it should be removed. Happy to provide sources if necessary but hopefully not needed. HarrietMWelsch (talk) 01:54, 18 November 2016 (UTC)HarrietMWelsch

Moreland Committee Controversy

Latest comment: 9 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

The New York Times recently published an article alleging Cuomo's administration interfered with the Moreland committee, which was meant to investigate political corruption in the NY State. The article implies the committee was meant to help Cuomo pass legislation; after it achieved that goal it was disbanded, instead of being allowed to freely investigate corruption as publicly billed.

"Cuomo's Office Hobbled Ethics Inquiries by Moreland Commission" (The New York Times, July 23, 2014; http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/23/nyregion/governor-andrew-cuomo-and-the-short-life-of-the-moreland-commission.html?_r=0 )

Should this be something included in the controversies section, or delayed until the federal prosecutor issues indictments (if any)? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.172.138.145 (talk) 02:39, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

Yes, it should be included. Bangabandhu (talk) 14:42, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

Old comments

Latest comment: 10 years ago5 comments5 people in discussion

I'm no fan of Andrew Cuomo, but this article definitely appears to include a ton of bias.

This main articles mention of Cuomo's time with HUD appears to be misleading.

Lucy Komisar’s article: 

  "Fees for Our Friends: the Scandal that Taints Andre ..." 
  (The Komisar Scoop, August 22, 2006;
   http://thekomisarscoop.com/2006/08/22/fees-for-our-friends-the-scandal-that-taints-andrew-cuomo/ )

is a very interesting contrast to that taken by the writer of the original bio.

The desire to take people whom did not pay their bills, and/or were on welfare and give them mortgages which everyone else should assume the risk for, was one of the largest contributions to the housing crisis. You cannot mathmatically erase the risk of default on a loan by using calculus. Most people do not understand the "mortgage" market, and thus, here is a quick summary. A person gets a mortgage, that a "bank" wrote, then "the bank" sells this mortgage to the CMO. The CMO refunds the money that the bank loaned, and also pays for some of the future expected interest. They also pay the bank to service the loan (process payments and forclose if necessary, etc). The CMO got the money to repay the bank from a LOAN. Thus, there is NO equity in the CMO. The CMO only contains future interest payments, with expenses which will be deducted. The future interest payments are divided into traunches, which help obfuscate the fact that dividing money does not create money and the final trauches are a ponzi scheme which will fail, because there is no remaining interest only expenses. The initial trauches skimmed all the funds from the CMO. Everything is supervised by the government, and our congressional leaders ignore problems with Freddie and laugh with them when they make congressional reports. This is a system designed to fail every 20 years. The CMO investors are bank accounts, and retirement funds, and these are not "fat-cats". When these "bad" mortgages broke the system, and pushed a stock to a value below zero. The "fix" was for the government to buy these "bad" (toxic) mortgages, and pay full value, and roll these into the national debt. Your children will be paying for these bad decisions for years to come. As another gotcha, anyone who bought into the patriotic sales pitch nature of the CMO investment, was later called a fat-cat, and their investment was in danger of not being returned. Currently the CMO's are a mechanism used indirectly to contribute to QE, since money is spent, that was not fully backed or sold. When inflation kicks in, then housing prices will go up and the CMO's will again be in the black.

Unfortunately, Cuomo as HUD secretary under Bill Clinton damaged the CMO's by high risk loans not being handled as such. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 162.72.225.8 (talk) 23:20, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

Komisar is an investigative reporter with 40 years experience, with articles published in the NYTimes, Washington Post, Wall Street Journal, Los Angeles Times and many more newspapers and magazines. The person who wrote the above critique should specify which items are misleading. Broadsided attacks are not appropriate. So give at least one example of something that's misleading.

POV

If anyone wants to recover anything NPOV from this, go ahead. Cory.willis 04:01, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

This stuff below is uncited and controversial. It doesn't belong in a wikipedia article--->> gubernatorial humiliation. Worried about further political damage, he authorized an accusatory public statement about his wife at a time that demanded discretion for the sake of the couple's three children and their relationship with their mother. Career and image trumped family.

"As we wrote then, Cuomo "looks desperate to protect his public image and political career." Such a skewing of values leads to the question of whether, based on character, Cuomo should be entrusted with the responsibility of applying the law evenhandedly to friend and adversary, without calculation as to political benefit. That we feel compelled to ask is answer in itself."

http://72.14.209.104/search?q=cache:TTXCxwlppMoJ:www.nydailynews.com/news/ideas_opinions/story/450300p-378998c.html+green+yes,+cuomo+no&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=1

I suggest you propose a way to include content in accordance with WP policies & guidelines. Cutting & pasted from news articles does not help. --ZimZalaBim (talk) 20:39, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
        • I didn't address this article prior to the election because it was too close to the vote. However, I think this article is highly sanitized. The material referenced above is not limited to one or two sources, but has been published in a number of reliable sources. The definition of a reliable source can, itself, turn into an exercise in POV. Granted, these journalists often have a POV. That is to be expected. Their POV should not prevent a neutralized version of their information being placed in this encyclopedia. I am considering some way to address these issues without a lot of hyperbole or invective, but the article is very one-sided the way it stands now. If someone can get to it before I do, please do.claimman75 23:42, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Definitely a biased report on Andrew Cuomo. I do not like him and this is more like a campaign than a sterile report. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.67.47.125 (talk) 18:59, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

Your Contradictions

Latest comment: 17 years ago3 comments2 people in discussion

First you complain that information is not sourced. Then you complain that one should not quote and link to news articles. So which is it? You are getting caught up in your contradictions.

Are you suggesting that other Wikipedia entries are based on original research rather than newspaper articles and other written sources? Where does the information come from?

The Daily News editorial was interesting. I hadn't seen it. So why didn't you post it? Sure gives one a more substantive view of Cuomo than his resume.

Again, please familiarize yourself with WP:BLP, WP:RS, WP:CITE and WP:NPOV. Large chunks of text cut/pasted from a news article/editorial is not the appropriate method of contributing to an encyclopedia article of a living person. Feel free to present content in accordance to these policies for inclusion in this article. --ZimZalaBim (talk) 03:03, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
I don't think anyone is advocating cutting and pasting news articles into entries. Just that what is in the articles should be made part of the entry.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.19.101.114 (talk • contribs) .
Again, then suggest an appropriate reference to this information, rather than just cutting/pasting here. --ZimZalaBim (talk) 04:08, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
Fair enough.
Cuomo has been praised by many leaders in the Democratic Party. Bill Clinton said that Cuomo "led one of the most dramatic and successful reforms of a federal agency in modern U.S. history, with HUD going from the brink of elimination to the forefront of the struggle for justice in America." Despite this, many people think differently of Andrew Cuomo. An article by Lucy Komisar claims that while at HUD, Cuomo got rid of a system which was designed to award contracts on the merits in order to be able to give contracts to his political friends. The New York Times and New York Daily News editorial boards say that he is more interested in his political career than the greater good. The New York Times editorial board gave as an example a $685,000 book paid for by taxpayers to highlight his accomplishments, while the Daily News editorial board says that he put his political career before his wife and children during his divorce. A Village Voice article by Wayne Barrett claims that Cuomo, while at HUD, encouraged a favorable settlement for a company, and later received millions of dollars from one of heads of the company. These are a few examples among other claims about him.
      • I added a "Controversy" section to the article to indicate some of the criticisms of Mr. Cuomo. I excluded some issues to avoid making this section ponderous and disproportionately large. The Komisar reference was left out because I do think it is from a blog and I doubt it has editorial oversight. The citation to Catherine Fitts' article in "From the Wilderness", basically, covers the same information and "From the Wilderness" does have editorial oversight and an excellent fact-checking record. I think this strikes a balance between a campaign poster entry and a POV rant.claimman75 00:59, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

More Information

Personal experiences by Catherine Austin Fitts with Cuomo as head of HUD. 

   "Unanswered Questions about Andrew Cuomo" by Catherine Austin Fitts
   ( FromTheWilderness.com, September 21, 2006;
   http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/092106_about_cuomo.shtml )

There are many discernable facts and leads contained this article to constitute many NPOV. But because it happened to Ms. Fitts she definitely has a POV.

Problems with bare links for references

Latest comment: 16 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

I have replaced the links used as references for this article with full citations. I removed three broken ones (out of seven!) and replaced two of them with {{fact}} tags because I could not find any substitute reliable source for them:

The essential problem is the use of bare links; i.e., a URL with no other identifying information. These frequently break, and without data like news article titles or website page titles, it is often impossible even to know where to look for a replacement source. (Archive sites like the Wayback Machine or Google sometimes help, but often do not.)

In short, bare links should be never be used as sources for Wikipedia articles. You don't necessarily have to create a fully filled-out citation, but at least include basic title or descriptive information with the reference. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 17:17, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Clinton Cabinet position

Latest comment: 13 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

So Andrew Cuomo caused the subprime mortgage crisis? Fascinating. Plesse cite the Republican talking point you got this from. Jperrylsu (talk) 19:40, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

Whoever it was you were responding to lo so many years ago may have been referring to that republican bastion known as the Village Voice.

http://www.villagevoice.com/2008-08-05/news/how-andrew-cuomo-gave-birth-to-the-crisis-at-fannie-mae-and-freddie-mac/1/ --143.66.66.157 (talk) 13:36, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

64th NY Attorney General

Latest comment: 15 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

According to www.NY.gov, Andrew Cuomo is the 64th attorney general, not the 74th. I've changed the infobox to reflect this. NY state does not count people who serve non-consecutive terms twice. This has consistantly been a porblem in the infoboxes for NY elected officials.EMT1871 (talk) 14:45, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

That NY state would not count non-consecutive terms, is the opinion of somebody who is not well-informed. In the case of the Att. Gen. there have been 62 persons who have held this office, two of them held it twice (Matthias Hildreth and Abraham Van Vechten), nevertheless the official count is 64th, meaning that AGs are counted like US Presidents. The erroneous notion that NY state would not count twice persons who served non-consecutive terms is derived from a different type of list at the governor's site which does not list the governors in chronological order but lists non-consecutive terms out of order at the single name entry... Kraxler (talk) 02:11, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Controversy section

Latest comment: 14 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

This section needs to be rewritten. I will probably do it myself, but I propose we keep the tag up until then. -Phil5329 (talk) 05:16, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

It needs a section on the charges that companies have been induced to contribute to Mr Cuomo's possible 2010 campaign with theats of legal action - tens of thousands of Dollars have been contributed by companies that have been "investigated" by Mr Cuomo's office.91.107.92.172 (talk) 18:58, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Tirade against Usenet

Latest comment: 5 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

Why isn't this mentioned at all? http://newteevee.com/2008/06/11/isps-shut-down-usenet-to-save-children-and-cash/ --TIB (talk) 17:39, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Another reference: https://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Giganews-Deconstructs-Cuomos-Child-Porn-Crackdown-98446 Even more interesting in hindsight after a decade... This is right before social networking took off. It used to be that a rite of passage for users was to start chatting on 'real' networks, instead of AOL-style walled-garbage. How far we've fallen in 10 years.  :( They actually saved money with newsgroups, because it let them avoid peering charges. That baby went out with the bathwater, when they seemingly just got lazy. And yes, this guy is all about being Draconian, while tossing a few bones to some popular cause/s while crushing people he doesn't like. 174.22.176.110 (talk) 15:16, 3 July 2018 (UTC)

Kennedy family category

Latest comment: 15 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

He divorced his wife who is a member of the Kennedy family, so would one say he is no longer a "member" of the Kennedy family.--Levineps (talk) 16:47, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Adviser

Latest comment: 14 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Do you think it should be mentioned that Cuomo's advisers is a very powerful lobbyist in NYC?[1] Truthsort (talk) 18:37, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

Swearing in vs. taking office

Latest comment: 13 years ago12 comments5 people in discussion
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.
Issue is closed, The current version is fine and does not violate any policy or guideline, including WP:CRYSTAL. This discussion is closed, move on. Dreadstar ☥ 16:25, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

Although Cuomo had a small swearing in ceremony just before midnight on Friday evening, 12/31/10, he officially took office on Saturday, 1/1/11, and held a public inauguration on this day as well.[2] [3] This fact is undebatable, and the primary point at which we should acknowledge his term in office. Please see this as a warning to those who desire to continue defying the facts. Sinisterminister (talk) 18:31, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

Please check the source for this fact -- Article is dated 12/31/10 and makes no mention of "assuming office." Only "swearing in." Please don't make threats and stay cordial. STICK TO WHAT THE SECONDARY SOURCES SAY. No egos please. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.73.50.195 (talk) 21:04, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
The New York Constitution says when an elected Governor & elected Lieutenant Governor assume office. Midnight, new year's day following the previous November election. GoodDay (talk) 21:16, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
Actually the New York Constitution says nothing about this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.73.50.195 (talk) 16:10, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
GoodDay makes a very good point, and the cited source is actually very clear about this: "Mr. Cuomo, a Democrat, officially becoming governor at 12:01 a.m. on Saturday." This renders his swearing-in ceremony inconsequential to the point at which he technically, legally assumed office. Sinisterminister (talk) 21:46, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
When citing sources, it is advisable to stick to the facts as reported in the newspaper. It is not up to encyclopedia editors to put their own interpretation on the facts, whatever the US constitution says. --Kudpung (talk) 22:06, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
Sorry, but under that interpretation, the US Presidency would've been vacant for roughly 10-15 minutes every Inauguration Day. GoodDay (talk) 22:10, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
Kudpung, while I appreciate your input, I think you are missing the point of the debate, which is the legal distinction that has been made between a swearing in ceremony and the official, legal point at which an elected official has taken office. That said, I agree with GoodDay. Ceremonies are just that - ceremonies. And the cited source (here) reveals BOTH that while the swearing in ceremony took place on the evening of 12/31, but Cuomo did not officially become governor until 1/1. This was all stated in one sentence in one New York Times article cited. I am not "interpreting" anything, and am not sure where you are seeing this. The facts are quite clear. Sinisterminister (talk) 22:50, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
Sinisterminister, the source you cite is dated and filed 12/31/10. There is no way this article could possibly report that the governor assumed office on 1/1 because it was written before that. Or, are you saying that it is wikipedia policy to cite sources that speculate about future events happening? 75.73.50.195 (talk) 16:12, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
If you look at the bottom of the source, it says "A version of this article appeared in print on January 1, 2011, on page A13 of the New York edition.". The current version is fine and does not violate any policy or guideline, including WP:CRYSTAL. This discussion should be closed. Dreadstar ☥ 16:20, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

I don't mean to blog, but New York would save us all a headache, if its Constitution would change it so that gubernatorial transition occured a Noon EST January 1, every inugural, instead of the current situation. GoodDay (talk) 03:47, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

Strong disagree on "crystal ball"

Latest comment: 13 years ago3 comments2 people in discussion

"Articles that present extrapolation, speculation, and "future history" are original research and therefore inappropriate. While scientific and cultural norms continually evolve, we must wait for this evolution to happen, rather than try to predict it." The article is dated December 31 and while a version appeared in print January 1, the portion you quote is clearly not in the past tense and is clearly speculating on a future event (albeit an event that may simply be hours away). Since the New York Times article does not cite any source, this quite clearly appears to me to be original research under the definition of CRYSTAL you provide. Frankly, I think you are too emotionally involved in this topic to make ultimate verdicts about it and I would ask that another editor find a different source that is not original research. Seriously, how hard can that be? Or do we not care about wikipedia's policies? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.73.50.195 (talk) 03:43, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

The facts as outlined in the article are incontrovertible, there can be no serious objection to the article content. Clearly the source was updated on Jan 1st, is an accurate description of what occured, and is an adequate source for the article's content on that subject. The source was relocated per WP:LEAD to the article body. Lastly, WP:OR applies to Wikipeida editors adding content not published in reliable sources, not the content of those sources. Continuing to pursue this as you have been will result in your being blocked for tendentious editing and disruption. Dreadstar ☥ 04:01, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
Just to add that 'midnight' describes a time-frame from 11:59pm to 12:01am; details can be found here: Midnight#Start and end of day. Dreadstar ☥ 02:33, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Cuomo is positioning to run for President in 2016

Latest comment: 12 years ago3 comments3 people in discussion

Governor Cuomo is positioning himself to become the 2016 Democratic candidate.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/07/nyregion/07cuomo.html?_r=1&hp

96.233.148.163 (talk) 00:48, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

Whether or not that is his true intention we will not know for years. This can go into a section about how he has governed, but without the talk of a presidential campaign that is speculation. – Muboshgu (talk) 00:55, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

Well, the mainstream media is now talking about his presidential leadership skills, after leading the gender-neutral marriage equality movement to victory in NY http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/06/25/cuomos-presidential-moment-forms-contrast-with-obama/ 131.128.72.3 (talk) 22:49, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

Pushing for loans unwisely Footnote 4 is File Not Found

Latest comment: 12 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

"He also pushed government-sponsored lenders Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to buy more home loans issued to poor homeowners, in an attempt to end discrimination against minorities.[4]"

This seems suspect to me so I tried to look up the source. It is not working. Do we rewrite, or find an alternate source? The idea that Democrats pushed for loans for poor people, unwisely, needs an actual and not implied argument. Cause pushing for loans for poor people can be wise. Mtkoan (talk) 18:47, 16 September 2011 (UTC)

Tagging for Reliable Sources

Latest comment: 12 years ago4 comments3 people in discussion

The article contains a large number of blog and editorial articles as cited sources. Per WP:SPS:

Never use self-published sources as third-party sources about living people, even if the author is an expert, well-known professional researcher, or writer.

I am tagging the article so active editors can remove these sources (hopefully finding reliable sources to replace them). As I am uninvolved in the article, I imagine that others will do a better job of locating sources that do not contravene WP:SPS. --Tgeairn (talk) 05:07, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

The previous comment may have been based upon an incomplete understanding of Wikipedia policy. The cited section of WP:SPS links to a relevant section of WP:BLP, which reads as follows: "Never use self-published sources—including but not limited to books, zines, websites, blogstweets, and —as sources of material about a living person, unless written or published by the subject (see below). 'Self-published blogs' in this context refers to personal and group blogs. Some news organizations host online columns that they call blogs, and these may be acceptable as sources so long as the writers are professionals and the blog is subject to the newspaper's full editorial control. Posts left by readers are never acceptable as sources." I have reviewed the footnotes in this article, and it appears to me that they would meet this standard.
I do not see what the concern is regarding opinion articles, as I do not see them mentioned in the policy.
A relevant section of WP:V reads as follows: "Self-published and questionable sources may be used as sources of information about themselves, usually in articles about themselves or their activities, without the requirement in the case of self-published sources that they be published experts in the field, so long as:
1. the material is not unduly self-serving; 2. it does not involve claims about third parties;

3. it does not involve claims about events not directly related to the source; 4. there is no reasonable doubt as to its authenticity; 5. the article is not based primarily on such sources."

Thus, even a questionable self-published source is a reliable source of information not about Governor Cuomo, but about itself (e.g. reactions to Gov. Cuomo's policies by others).
I will leave the tag in place for a while, but I respectfully disagree with its validity.67.248.31.193 (talk) 05:41, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
Thank you for taking the time to put together such a complete response. I will take a further look at this, and I hope to get some additional editors comments as well. --Tgeairn (talk) 05:57, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
The tag seems inappropriate. Perhaps I'm missing something but looking at it there appears to be only one blog used a source here. And it's to back up "Governor Cuomo was criticized for describing the viewpoints of same-sex marriage opponents as being 'anti-American.'" This is precisely the sort of statement for which self-published material is appropriate. Also that statement has other (traditional media) sources as references.Flyte35 (talk) 02:00, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

gun law

Latest comment: 11 years ago3 comments2 people in discussion

His passing of the new gun law should be added. It's certainly elevated his national profile. Perhaps there should also be a note on the controversy of how it was passed, since it's gotten him some criticism from hunters and Assembly Republicans. 74.69.11.229 (talk) 14:20, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

Are you talking about the NY SAFE Act, I am thinking of adding something about that and a page on that, wanna help? IronKnuckle (talk) 05:14, 25 January 2013 (UTC)
Ok, I added something about it. Feel free to improve. IronKnuckle (talk) 14:25, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

$1.6 billion tax hike

Latest comment: 11 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

It should be noted that Cuomo's "tax cut" anticipated a $1.6 billion increase in tax revenue and should properly be described as a tax hike.

Also, his "tax cap" was largely window dressing as it simply increased the ratio of votes necessary for a tax increase. It also contained an exception if monies were needed for pension contributions, which are one of the key cost increases local governments face. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.249.246.183 (talk) 17:06, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

The tax overhaul will create the $1.6 billion increase in tax revenue by creating a new tax bracket for the highest-income residents, while reducing the rate for millions of others. See this article explaining the budget changes. So calling it a "cut" is largely a matter of rhetoric, as is often true of tax changes. 4.4 million New Yorkers (or about 22 percent of the state) will see a tax cut. HIgh income earners also see a tax cut, technically, though not not as much as they would have seen had the existing "millionaires tax" simply been allowed to expire, as it would have done without legislative intervention. It appears most low-income New Yorkers see no tax change.Flyte35 (talk) 17:56, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

resident of ny?

Latest comment: 10 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

Where pray tell would Cuomo be a resident of? Messina? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.241.74.32 (talk) 21:54, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

Mt. Kisco, it appears.Flyte35 (talk) 23:02, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

Catholic?

Latest comment: 5 years ago7 comments5 people in discussion

He's Catholic. According to whom? Catholics believe divorce, supporting abortion, rights for queer people and cohabitation are sins of varying seriousness. Cuomo fervently believes in all of these and thinks anyone in NY who disagrees with him should leave the state. How is this guy allowed to call himself Catholic with a straight face? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.69.9.224 (talk) 19:24, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

There is a range of beliefs among Catholics. Some support ordination of women, and most support divorce. 

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.12.34.149 (talk) 13:13, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

He was baptized, confirmed, and married in the Catholic church. Perhaps you don't think he's a very good Catholic, but his affiliation is not a matter of debate.Flyte35 (talk) 17:23, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

Oh but it most assuredly is. Catholics believe in certain things. Read the Magisterium. There is no "range" of belief. It is crystal clear, in precise detail and authority as expressed by the head of the Catholic Church. If you don't believe what it says, you are not Roman Catholic. It says marriage is between a man and a woman and abortion is a mortal sin. Period. 66.67.32.161 (talk) 22:34, 14 March 2015 (UTC)

Not really. Valid sources say his religion is Catholic. For the purposes of Wikipedia he is Catholic. This is not the place for debate about the state of his soul.Flyte35 (talk) 22:59, 14 March 2015 (UTC)

You're an idiot. The Vatican is about as "valid" a source as one can get and it says I'm right and you and Cuomo aren't. Sorry if you don't like that. Change your views, don't attack me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.67.32.161 (talk) 21:20, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

Hes seriously a catholic In Name Only. He is not a catholic in my eyes nor other conservatives. IMHO he is a clear and present danger.--Zgrillo2004 (talk) 17:44, 13 July 2018 (UTC)

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Children's names

Latest comment: 8 years ago4 comments2 people in discussion

WP:BLPNAME is clear that children and family members of BLP subjects should not be named if they are not sourced or notable:

The presumption in favor of privacy is strong in the case of family members of articles' subjects and other loosely involved, otherwise low-profile persons. The names of any immediate, ex, or significant family members or any significant relationship of the subject of a BLP may be part of an article, if reliably sourced, subject to editorial discretion that such information is relevant to a reader's complete understanding of the subject. However, names of family members who are not also notable public figures must be removed from an article if they are not properly sourced.

I see no reason to include the names of his children tbh, but especially not if they're not sourced. Pinging Flyte35 since I undid their revert. EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 19:39, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

Follow up - If these children are minors, I would strongly suggest excluding them from the article even if sourced unless they themselves are notable. EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 19:40, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
The names are sourced. There are 4 sources provided at the end of the graph. The children are all over 18 and have been written about. They're members of two very prominent political families. There's no presumption of privacy here. Flyte35 (talk) 20:03, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
I put the refs next to the sentence (where it honestly should be). EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 20:08, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

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I have modified the article to mention that he is River Cuomo's father. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.246.229.45 (talk) 19:47, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

September corruption indictments

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@Epicgenius: You deleted two paragraphs I wrote about this issue, providing necessary context, and your edit summary said "That's not NPOV". Can you please go sentence by sentence and explain which sentences you believe do not adhere to the NPOV policy? Thanks. Frankam12 (talk) 03:35, 23 September 2016 (UTC)

@Frankam12: I meant the paragraphs as a whole. There is one brief paragraph about the program as a whole, then three more detailed paragraphs about a corruption investigation that has little to do with either Cuomo or the program. That's relatively POV.
The text stated,

In July 2016, the Empire State Development Corporation, a state agency, released a report indicating that the state's flagship business tax incentive program, called START-UP NY, had generated 408 jobs since its inception in 2014. Ads promoting the program have cost at least $53 million.[101] The START-UP NY annual report was delayed three months in 2016, leading some lawmakers, such as Assemblyman Schimminger, to call the delays "curious".[102]

In September 2016, a former aide and close friend of Cuomo, Joseph Percoco, was indicted as part of a corruption investigation. The complaint alleges that Percoco, his wife, and other state officials such as SUNY Polytechnic head Alain Kaloyeros, received favors and bribes in exchange for rigging bids on development contracts that were part of the START-UP NY program and the Empire State Economic Development Corporation, a Cuomo-controlled entity.[103][104][105] Columbia County developer Joseph Nicolla, Buffalo-based developer Louis Ciminelli, and Maryland developer Peter Kelly, were also charged in the complaint. All were major donors to Cuomo and other state politicians.[106][103] Todd Howe, a lobbyist formerly at the major state lobbying firm White Osterman Hanna (WOH), and a former Cuomo aide, was also charged with helping Percoco and Kelly, a Cuomo donor, conceal the payments by creating bank accounts and a shell company to handle the transfers. No wrongdoing on the part of Cuomo was alleged in this complaint.[104][107]

So basically the text about the investigation that didn't involve Cuomo himself is longer than the info about the tax incentive program. epicgenius (talk) 10:49, 23 September 2016 (UTC)

@Epicgenius: The corruption indictments are for actions committed under this program, but if it helps, I'm moving that info to a new section

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Split section

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The section about his tenure as Governor is long, detailed, and high-profile. It is more than suitable for a split. It should be called "Governorship of Andrew Cuomo". There is precedent for these kinds of articles: see Category:Governorships of U.S. states. — Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs)  00:41, 8 March 2018 (UTC)  — Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs)  00:41, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

Never that great

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Presently I would say that the current event falls under WP:NOTNEWS. Yet, it is getting significant coverage, including from CNN, Fox News, and elsewhere. If this event, has legs and is brought up in a weeks time, it should be included in the article via a neutrally worded statement.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 01:34, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

Percoco's Verdict

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Cuomo stated that he would respect the verdict. I feel this should be included68.47.65.239 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 02:07, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Cuomo's claim on the NYC subways

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It is backed by third party sources. While it is leased to the MTA, it is owned by the government of New York City. Both agencies work in tandem. I feel this should be included.2601:447:4101:41F9:24BE:4DD8:5BE9:FACB (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 12:41, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

Missing political issues in his article

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His views on these matters, especially one threatening the existence of the entire biosphere, should be included in the bio of a potential candidate for president. It should be included for a governor who's state is threatened by the effects of lingering, high rain fall, warmer ocean driven, hurricanes and sub-hurricane squalls.

It's not like these haven't gotten coverage and his actions need to be presented:

Nomination of Portal:Andrew Cuomo for deletion

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Needs work

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The article could use additional content on the following topics:

  • Governor of New York/Tenure/Clean government;
  • Governor of New York/Tenure/Marijuana policy;
  • Governor of New York/Tenure/Official corruption;
  • Governor of New York/Tenure/Relationship with New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio;
  • Ideology and public image.

SunCrow (talk) 22:00, 7 May 2019 (UTC)

He is NOT the 56th governor since 2011

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I would suggest the following edit: "is an American politician, author, and lawyer serving since 2011 as the 56th governor of New York."

Because: The current wording "is an American politician, author, and lawyer serving as the 56th governor of New York since 2011." implies that during the time-frame of 2011 to the present, there have been 56 governors of NY.


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Semi-protected edit request on 3 April 2020

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someone has hacked the information that pops up when you scroll across the governor's domestic partner's name. 71.121.229.188 (talk) 18:09, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

The vandalism on Sandra Lee (chef) has been reverted. – Thjarkur (talk) 20:24, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

Vandalism: Request Edit/watch out for Cuomo's title.

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Vandalism on Cuomo's title. Currently listed as "56th Know Tyrant of New York" should say "Governor"

He's also very sexy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.55.115.80 (talk) 22:17, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 May 2020

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Please include a sentence in the covid section about how he gave the executive order to send recovering covid patients to nursing homes. https://www.businessinsider.com/cuomo-executive-order-4300-recovering-coronavirus-patients-ny-nursing-homes-2020-5 100.37.183.230 (talk) 22:25, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

  Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. And what should that sentence be? RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 23:52, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

Oldest of four children?

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How can he be the oldest if he has an elder sister?

Indeed. This has been fixed. Thanks and Kind Regards, Cedar777 (talk) 01:29, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 7 August 2020

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The page for Gov Cuomo suggests Larry Hogan held the NY governor’s office, but he’s in Maryland, and has been governor here since 2015, I believe. 2600:1003:B002:8CFE:F818:F469:7FC:EE27 (talk) 04:41, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 18 August 2020

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Gov Andrew Cuomo's handling of sending infected patients back into senior nursing homes is under extreme scrutiny, https://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/news/politics/albany/2020/06/23/cuomo-sending-covid-19-patients-nursing-homes-no-wasnt-mistake/3243385001/ (Redacted) in the handling of thousands of deaths, and still the Governor claims "it is not my fault", and distracts attention to President Trump who offered Hospitals, and Military hospital ships, to handle the crisis. Quotelawrence (talk) 16:24, 18 August 2020 (UTC)

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Gov Cuomo miss handling

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https://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/news/politics/albany/2020/06/23/cuomo-sending-covid-19-patients-nursing-homes-no-wasnt-mistake/3243385001/https://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/news/politics/albany/2020/06/23/cuomo-sending-covid-19-patients-nursing-homes-no-wasnt-mistake/3243385001/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Quotelawrence (talk • contribs) 16:51, 18 August 2020 (UTC)

Quotelawrence, is there an actual edit that you want to propose? – Muboshgu (talk) 17:01, 18 August 2020 (UTC)

Protect until August 2021?

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People are definitely vandalizing this page because of his bungled COVID-19 response, and this pandemic won't go away soon. I estimate that it'll end in August 2021, and we have to protect this page until then, as not to remind people about his bad reputation. Seaotter26705 (talk) 21:23, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

Why not indefinitely? I think the vandalism regarding his pandemic response will continue way beyond August 2021. Unknown0124 (talk) 1 December 2020 (UTC)

Four Sisters?

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During a 9Nov2020 Howard Stern interview, Andrew Cuomo said he had four (4) sisters. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.251.101.184 (talk • contribs) 15:35, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

He actually has three sisters. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Unknown0124 (talk • contribs) 01:03, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

Sexual harassment claim

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Reported by the AP - https://uk.sports.yahoo.com/news/former-development-aide-accuses-cuomo-183823882.html MaineCrab (talk) 18:45, 13 December 2020 (UTC)

IOW she is a Democrat who worked for a Democratic governor. TFD (talk) 07:12, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

Emmy Award winning governor, Andrew Cuomo

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there is nothing in the article about his Emmy Award, except for a category. i think winning the Award is notable and should be included in the article. 173.87.171.88 (talk) 02:15, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

You're right, fixed. Schazjmd (talk) 14:13, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

Add to controversies section: Nursing Home Deaths

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August 11, 2020: https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/new-yorks-true-nursing-home-death-toll-cloaked-in-secrecy/2020/08/11/f658ebfe-db8a-11ea-b4f1-25b762cdbbf4_story.html: "New York’s coronavirus death toll in nursing homes, already among the highest in the nation, could actually be a significant undercount. Unlike every other state with major outbreaks, New York only counts residents who died on nursing home property and not those who were transported to hospitals and died there. That statistic could add thousands to the state’s official care home death toll of just over 6,600. But so far the administration of Democratic Gov. Andrew Cuomo has refused to divulge the number, leading to speculation the state is manipulating the figures to make it appear it is doing better than other states and to make a tragic situation less dire."

January 28, 2021: Attorney General of NY releases report that the Department of Health severely undercounted nursing home deaths by 50%: https://ag.ny.gov/press-release/2021/attorney-general-james-releases-report-nursing-homes-response-covid-19; New York Times coverage: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/28/nyregion/nursing-home-deaths-cuomo.html - "The findings do not change the overall number of Covid-19 deaths in New York — more than 42,000, the most of any state — but the recalculation in the number of nursing home deaths illustrates how unprepared the nursing home industry was in the first and deadliest weeks of the pandemic. Mr. Cuomo, a third-term Democrat, had long dismissed the critiques of his policies governing those facilities as partisan attacks from the Trump administration and other Republican adversaries. But the report by Ms. James, a fellow Democrat, casts a renewed light on the state’s decision to send nursing home residents who had been hospitalized with the coronavirus back to the nursing homes, a policy that Mr. Cuomo has defended as following federal guidelines. At the same time, Ms. James’s assertion of an undercount of deaths gave credence to theories that the state may have intentionally played down the number of those deaths to avoid blame."

February 12, 2021: Top aide to governor admits that nursing home data was withheld: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/12/nyregion/new-york-nursing-homes-cuomo.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dunham14 (talk • contribs) 14:49, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

Major controversy, must be added. 242baileyave (talk) 19:53, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
The nursing home deaths are already mentioned in the article. Could you please be more specific about how the wording should be changed. TFD (talk) 04:21, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

Popular Information source

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I question the reliability of the Popular Information newsletter used as a source in this article. It seems to be a one-man-shop without editorial oversight (although he recently hired a research assistant), self-published, that he hawks via twitter. (See Bloomberg article on it) Surely we can find better sources for a WP:BLP. Schazjmd (talk) 21:32, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

"Governor 1 percent" listed at Redirects for discussion

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"Governor 1%" listed at Redirects for discussion

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Semi-protected edit request on 12 March 2021

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a seventh accuser of sexual harassment has come forward as of March 12th C-X-B-U (talk) 17:42, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

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Sexual harrassment is about power

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It appears the preferred method to get Andrew Cuomo out of office is with this traditional tool and a media that conveniently transforms itself into a fact bearing weaponized crusader. It's important that Wikipedia highlight this moment of absurdity in politics.

On a related note wikipedia needs a subsection in the wikipedia article "Preventable causes of death" that highlights the complete failure of the United States to control excess death during the pandemic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.58.219.122 (talk) 23:44, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

Charlotte Bennett Sexual Harassment Allegation

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When is someone going to add this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsYiNrzj8YM — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.176.214.46 (talk) 08:01, 5 March 2021 (UTC)


How was this sexual harrassement? She never made this claim until the New York Times asked her to describe what happened. Cuomo told her he was lonely at one point. After the NYT published Bennet's story Cuomo publically apologized. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.58.220.222 (talk) 03:29, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

This statement should be put in one of the entry paragraphs for Cuomo as Desantis' handling of the pandemic is put in his

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On January 28, 2021, an investigation conducted by state attorney general Letitia James concluded that the Cuomo administration undercounted COVID-19-related deaths at nursing homes by as much as 50%.[107] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.76.179.152 (talk) 08:33, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

Agree 100%, can't have it both ways. Needs to be one or the other.EliteArcher88 (talk) 02:10, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
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