Talk:1952 Winter Olympics/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Arsenikk ^(talk) 11:36, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

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• (not GA criteria, but) According to WP:BOLDTITLE, "Use as few links as possible before and in the bolded title." In other worlds: boldfacing "Winter Olympics" is ugly, and there is probably a better way to link this term.

• Done

• (not GA criteria) All-caps is a typographical choice (like choice of font or size), so when captioning the logo, use "De VI. olympiske vinterleker Oslo 1952" (not Norwegian capitalization rules).

• Done

• (not GA criteria) The article is inconsequential in the use of date format. For instance, there should not be a comma in a DD Month YYYY format.

• Done

• Perhaps be more specific and say the "first time the Winter Games had been hosted by a Scandinavian country", since Stockholm did host the 1912 Summer Games.

• Good catch it's been fixed

• "Viking Hotel" is today "Hotel Royal Christiania" and has an article.

• Done

• "Bislett Stadium" or "Bislett Stadion" or "Bislett stadion"? The correct Norwegian name is with a small 's'. There was at once reached agreement at WP:Norway that we not translate 'stadion' into 'stadium' for names. The capitalization of 'stadion' is completely inconsistent on en.wp right now.

• For this every mention of Bislett stadium was changed to Bislett stadion. But where "stadium" was left without a name ("...a new hockey stadium built for the Games.), I left stadium as is. Is this ok?

• Looks good. When used as a common noun, stadium is fine. We had a larger discussion about this perhaps a year or two ago, because a few football venues were being moved from Foo stadion to Foo Stadium, and it is nice to be consistent across the project.Hamar stadion

• "Holmenkollen ski jump" should probably be called "Holmenkollbakken", for the same reason as above.

• I changed all instances of "Holmenkollen ski jump hill" to "Holmenkollbakken" is this correct?

• Looks good. Arsenikk ^(talk) 21:34, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

• Consider including File:Nils Mora-Nisse Karlsson, 1952.jpg

• My only hang up with using this image is that he didn't win anything in 1952. It's a great image of a cross-country skier at the 1952 Games, so it is certainly topical. I guess I'm overthinking things, I'll put it in.

• I just uploaded File:Holmenkollbakken 1952.jpg; it is not from the Olympics, but from Holmenkollbakken about two weeks later.

• I replaced the modern aerial image with this one.

• Consider linking to Morgedal.

• Done

• In the alpine skiing section, I would like to see "alpine skiing", "slalom", "great slalom" and "downhill" all linked.

• Done and linked all the sports more thoroughly

• Concerning titles, if they are before the name they are to be capitalized; if they are just stand-alone, they are not capitalized. So "The King, crown prince Harald, and princess Ragnhild..." should be "The king, Crown Prince Harald, and Princess Ragnhild..."

• Done

• I would say that then for instance reading about figure skating, it would be natural for some readers to actually look up the main article on the sport. A more aggressive linking of the sport articles would be nice.

• Done see above

• Of all the sports, why is the rules and basics of bandy explained?

• My thinking on this was that Bandy is likely outside the experience of most readers so perhaps a short explanation of the game was in order. The rules are also explained in the official report. Is it out of place given that none of the other sports get this treatment?

• Sure, why not. I guess Bandy is a very marginal sport. I mentioned it to some Canadians this summer, and they had never heard of it, even though they were hockey fans. Arsenikk ^(talk) 21:34, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

• Where were the bandy matches held?

• Added info on this

• Perhaps mention the other three ice hockey stadiums: Kadettangen, Dælenenga idrettspark, Lillestrøm stadion and Marienlyst Stadion.

• Added both to the hockey section and the venues section.

• In the prose it says the opening ceremony was on the 15th, but in the schedule it is on the 14th.

• Good catch and fixed

• Tryvann stadion is located in Oslo, further up the hill from Holmenkollen. There were two different reserve venues for the speed skating, either Tryvann or Hamar.

• I made the switch but said the reserve venues were Tryvann and Hamar stadions. Is this correct?

• On the Norwegian Wikipedia there are articles for no:Skøytebaner i Oslo (skating rinks in Oslo, which mentions Tyrvann) and no:Hamar stadion. I presume these are the ones, although the source is not 100% specific. Arsenikk ^(talk) 21:34, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

• Images from the official report may very well be in the public domain. I'll take a look at that.

• I would love to use some official report images but didn't know about public domain/free use rules for Norwegian images were. Any help on this would be sincerely appreciated.

• They are most likely in the public domains in Norway, but because of the Uruguay Round Agreements Act they are not so in the US. And uploads to the Commons (or free use on Wikipedia) requires the images to be in the public domain both in the US and in Norway. So if the Wikipedia Foundation moved the servers to Oslo, then we could use them. I will take a look and see if I can find some way around it, but I'm not optimistic. Arsenikk ^(talk) 21:34, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

Looks good. Some small stuff, and it will pass. Arsenikk ^(talk) 11:36, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

• First off I'm so glad you chose to review this article. It helps to have someone familiar with the area, language and culture, review this article for accuracy. I've made the fixes you suggested and asked a couple of questions above. I also answered your question regarding Bandy above. Thank you again for your assistance. H1nkles (talk) _{citius altius fortius} 17:18, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

• Yeah! Another good article :) It was enjoyable reviewing the article too; like all Norwegians, I knew Oslo hosted these games, but not much more than that, so it was an enjoyable experience reading it and looking at some of the sources. Arsenikk ^(talk) 21:34, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

• Alright! Thank you so much and thanks for looking at the image question. I'm so intimidated by all the rules and regs regarding images and what's allowed and what isn't so it's good to get an answer right away. I also appreciate the thorough review by someone so knowledgeable about the language and culture of Norway. Thanks! H1nkles (talk) _{citius altius fortius} 21:49, 8 September 2010 (UTC)