MediaWiki talk:Pageinfo-footer

Request for new message

Hi. Can someone please create this message with the following content? This is related to mw:Requests for comment/Reimplement info action.

== External tools ==
* [http://wikipedia.ramselehof.de/wikiblame.php?lang=en&article={{FULLPAGENAMEE}} Revision history search]
* [http://toolserver.org/~daniel/WikiSense/Contributors.php?wikilang=en&wikifam=.wikipedia.org&grouped=on&page={{FULLPAGENAMEE}} Contributors]
* [http://toolserver.org/~snottywong/usersearch.html?page={{FULLPAGENAMEE}} User edits]
* [http://toolserver.org/~mzmcbride/cgi-bin/watcher.py?db=enwiki_p&titles={{FULLPAGENAMEE}} Number of watchers]
* [http://stats.grok.se/en/latest/{{FULLPAGENAMEE}} Page view statistics]

These links are from MediaWiki:Histlegend. I think it makes more sense to include these links in a section of the "info" action, which will be deployed to this wiki soon. (It was actually live a few hours ago, but MediaWiki was rolled back on this wiki.) --MZMcBride (talk) 03:25, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

Yes'm. Killiondude (talk) 04:55, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

Thank you! --MZMcBride (talk) 17:32, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

Why also the number of watchers? It's in the info page itself now. I guess it's for the trusted users who are not admin but are authorised for the tool, but then maybe same quick clear distinction between the two should be made. --Nemo 08:30, 17 November 2012 (UTC)

The number of watchers only became available at action=info very recently. By default in MediaWiki, it's disabled entirely. 28bytes has removed the link in this edit. Cheers! --MZMcBride (talk) 22:49, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 12 December 2013

Please change [http://toolserver.org/~snottywong/usersearch.html?page={{FULLPAGENAMEE}} User edits] to [http://tools.wmflabs.org/usersearch/?page={{FULLPAGENAMEE}} User edits] as the tool has been migrated to Labs. Ramaksoud2000 ^{(Talk to me)} 01:12, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

Done. Thanks for the update! — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 02:15, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

Toolserver link removed

I removed this from the links:

• Contributors

...as the toolserver is no longer up and the page it redirects to doesn't seem to be working either. @MusikAnimal, Cyberpower678, and Technical 13: any plans to get that working? If not maybe a link to WikiChecker would be better. 28bytes (talk) 13:59, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

• 28bytes, it should be pointing to http://tools.wmflabs.org/xtools-articleinfo/?wikilang=en&wikifam=.wikipedia.org&grouped=on&page=MediaWiki_talk:Pageinfo-footer. As for its stability. I know Cyberpower678 was doing a lot of work to it and I've been trying to stay out of his way. I also know that there have been a lot of labs crashes lately that have caused it to crash and not come back up on it's own. MusikAnimal has a script running that checks its status and restarts it (or is suppose to) when it crashes, so the tools own stability (which, I admit needs some work) is unimportant. — {{U|Technical 13}} (e • t • c) 14:28, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

I get a "301 Moved Permanently" redirect when I click on the link you provided. 28bytes (talk) 19:19, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

I think for the purposes of this page we can use the URL http://tools.wmflabs.org/xtools-articleinfo/?article={{FULLPAGENAME}}&project=en.wikipedia.org. The service is admittedly flaky, at the time of writing it is suffering from a replication database issue (as I understand it), which is why you get "no revisions found". Nothing we can do about that unfortunately. Give it some time and it should come back around to working order. I'm in favour of adding both the xtools and wikichecker links. If one is down they can try the other. 28bytes where on the site is this interface page shown? — MusikAnimal ^talk 19:09, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

It should be {{FULLPAGENAMEE}} with an extra E for url encoding of the page name. The message is displayed at the bottom of the "Page information" link in the left pane, e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Example&action=info. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:22, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, I've added it back as "Contribution analysis", as the tool goes into much more detail beyond the major contributors to the page. I say we add WikiChecker too, the URL would be http://en.wikichecker.com/article/?a={{PAGENAMEE}} and label it as "WikiChecker". Sound good? — MusikAnimal ^talk 22:34, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

MediaWiki:Histlegend displayed in page histories is probably much better known and has called it "Revision history statistics" for many years including the toolserver time. I think we should be consistent with that, although we weren't before when it was called "Contributors" here. Adding WikiChecker is OK by me. By the way, I have made an edit elsewhere [1] which gives links to possible documentation pages when admins edit MediaWiki pages. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:30, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

Renamed the xtools link and added WikiChecker. I also added a check of the {{NAMESPACENUMBER}} magic word to only show the WikiChecker link for mainspace pages, as apparently that's all it supports. And good to know about the mw docs! :) — MusikAnimal ^talk 23:50, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

WikiChecker works for me in other tested namespaces if {{FULLPAGENAMEE}} is used, although it sometimes requires a reload. Do you have an example where it fails? PrimeHunter (talk) 00:23, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

My example used PAGENAMEE and not FULLPAGENAMEE, so yeah, that makes sense! I've fixed the link. I think "Forbidden" error is unrelated and just the service being flaky, I was seeing the same problem with mainspace articles. — MusikAnimal ^talk 00:28, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

Hmm, just tried the WikiChecker link for Jimbo's talk page and got a 403 error. 28bytes (talk) 21:01, 13 March 2015 (UTC)

Try again, the service is flaky. Sometimes takes a few refreshes. After seeing how unreliable WikiChecker is, you guys can't complain about xtools being down anymore :) — MusikAnimal ^talk 22:46, 13 March 2015 (UTC)

It'd sure be nice if something worked all the time, wouldn't it? But yes, when I tried the link again just now it did work. Thanks, 28bytes (talk) 23:37, 13 March 2015 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 23 January 2016

http://tools.wmflabs.org/usersearch/?page={{FULLPAGENAMEE}} is marked as "defunct" and should be replaced with http://tools.wmflabs.org/sigma/usersearch.py?name=&page={{FULLPAGENAMEE}}&server=enwiki&max= Thanks! Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 16:20, 23 January 2016 (UTC)

 Done — xaosflux ^Talk 17:17, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 16 January 2018

• Please replace [https://xtools.wmflabs.org/articleinfo/en.wikipedia.org/{{FULLPAGENAME}} Revision history statistics] with [//xtools.wmflabs.org/articleinfo/?article={{FULLPAGENAMEE}}&project=en.wikipedia.org Revision history statistics]

The current code returns the wrong article name at External tools section of Page information, for example:

• 1997 Swedish Touring Car Championship returns returns the article 1977
• Christian Oxlade-Chamberlain retuns the article Christian

--Lam-ang (talk) 20:13, 16 January 2018 (UTC)

Done.[2] Thanks. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:37, 16 January 2018 (UTC)

"external" warnings

Hi @MusikAnimal: I don't recall where, but think these markings were the follow up from another discussion. In your removal you refereed to "cloud services" being the reason these don't need to be warned about - but the links you unmarked "ramselehof.de" and "wikichecker.com" don't appear to be registered to to wikimedia at all - am I missing something on that part? — xaosflux ^Talk 21:45, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

@Xaosflux My point is that Cloud Services (Toolforge/VPS) are no different than ramselehof.de and wikichecker.com in the sense they are not bound by the WMF Privacy Policy. So to be completely accurate you'd need to put the "E" next to all the links (except "Lint errors"). The usage of these indicators at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets I think is brilliant, because people don't know there are potentially unsafe things when enabling a gadget. Normal external links however I don't think need the same treatment as we are able to see what the URL is before clicking it. — MusikAnimal ^talk 01:13, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

@MusikAnimal gotcha, not sure what had led me to this one, will have to see if I come across it again. The gadget page ones were back-and-forth with WMF legal, who actually still want much more intrusive labels there that I've pushed back on. — xaosflux ^Talk 01:30, 25 February 2022 (UTC)