Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Brian Eaton
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- Promoted -MBK004 01:00, 29 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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Another RAAF pilot, but one of the few who made the transition from distinguished World War II combat leader into senior commander of the post-war era. What particularly struck me about this chap was how easily he could have got the chop before any of it got under way—plenty of his comrades were not so lucky... The other thing was the challenge to see if I could put together an article of A/FA length and standard when there are no bios of the guy among the usual sources such as the Australian Dictionary of Biography, the Oxford Companion to Australian Military History, or Alan Stephens' High Fliers. Performed the trick with John Lloyd Waddy, so we'll see if lightning strikes twice... ;-) Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 05:08, 20 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Support This is really excellent work Ian, and easily meets the A class criteria. The only comment I have is that it would be interesting to state why Eaton was awarded the Silver Star - as he seems to have served primarily with Commonwealth forces, it's unusual that he received an important American decoration. Nick-D (talk) 09:45, 21 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks Nick. Re. the Silver Star, I wish I knew myself -- AWM is missing the recommendation card (which might've at least narrowed it down to a particular campaign or battle) and none of the other sources I have explain just why either... Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 09:50, 21 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Support: no dabs, alt text is present and ext links all work. I can find nothing to pick fault with. Good work. — AustralianRupert (talk) 09:39, 22 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Support a little light on the early life but a very nice read MisterBee1966 (talk) 15:18, 22 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment - just two quick comments for now:
- According to this AWM record, Eaton was additionally awarded the Dutch Order of Orange-Nassau for his service in the Second World War, though the details do not seem to be available.
- Yes, I saw that one of course, and was almost taken in by it, but have you checked the details in the London Gazette? And noticed that the date of the award is exactly the same as a similar honour record for Charles Eaton? I'm afraid AWM has got its Eatons mixed up... ;-) Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 12:48, 23 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Didn't check the London Gazette on this one as the only date listed is for the Commonwealth of Australia Gazette. :) Though unless we can locate the entry in the Commonwealth of Australia Gazette to determine which Eaton was the recipient I agree that this shouldn't be added in. Cheers, Abraham, B.S. (talk) 14:55, 23 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Yep, it's definitely Charles' as he served in the Dutch East Indies, which Brian never did. Other sources for Charles mention it, bur none of Brian's do. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 15:05, 23 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Didn't check the London Gazette on this one as the only date listed is for the Commonwealth of Australia Gazette. :) Though unless we can locate the entry in the Commonwealth of Australia Gazette to determine which Eaton was the recipient I agree that this shouldn't be added in. Cheers, Abraham, B.S. (talk) 14:55, 23 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Yes, I saw that one of course, and was almost taken in by it, but have you checked the details in the London Gazette? And noticed that the date of the award is exactly the same as a similar honour record for Charles Eaton? I'm afraid AWM has got its Eatons mixed up... ;-) Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 12:48, 23 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- In the article it states that Eaton, Martin, Shannon and Hampshire were the only four Australian airman to receive the DSO and Bar during the Second World War. However, this is not correct as there was a fifth award to Wing Commander Colin Milson [1][2] in July 1945.
- Well if true we'll just have to take that statement out as I can't change what Garrisson says even if he's wrong - unless you can find someone saying "one of only five"...! Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 12:48, 23 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Unfortunately I could not locate a source that explicitly states this, even re-checking the ADB entries on Hampshire and Milson—the only two of the five that have articles!—yelded nothing. Annoying really. Cheers, Abraham, B.S. (talk) 14:55, 23 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- I'll take it out then, the article won't die without it -- tks for picking it up! Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 15:05, 23 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Unfortunately I could not locate a source that explicitly states this, even re-checking the ADB entries on Hampshire and Milson—the only two of the five that have articles!—yelded nothing. Annoying really. Cheers, Abraham, B.S. (talk) 14:55, 23 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Well if true we'll just have to take that statement out as I can't change what Garrisson says even if he's wrong - unless you can find someone saying "one of only five"...! Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 12:48, 23 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- According to this AWM record, Eaton was additionally awarded the Dutch Order of Orange-Nassau for his service in the Second World War, though the details do not seem to be available.
Cheers, Abraham, B.S. (talk) 08:47, 23 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Support - another fantastic addition to wikipedia. Well done. Anotherclown (talk) 06:27, 28 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Support - Very nice work, Ian. This was quite interesting to read. Parsecboy (talk) 11:42, 28 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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