User talk:Penubag/Archives/graphics

Re: Feedback needed

It looks great overall. When looking at it in a thumbnail, it took a while to get my bearings of what part of the world I was looking at. Maybe switch around the colors to make the oceans gold? –Juliancolton ^{Tropical Cyclone} 00:14, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Heh, well then in that case, it should be fine.

Also,  Done with the adjectives. –Juliancolton ^{Tropical Cyclone} 00:18, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Ilikepie's comments

I think the wording on the stand looks a bit unnatural. I think that it should be a different font that I know, but I can't seem to recall its name. Pie is good ^{(Apple is the best)} 01:51, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

What about font like this [1]? -- penubag  (talk) 06:33, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

That font seems better, but is there a way to blur it so that it looks more realistic? Pie is good ^{(Apple is the best)} 22:14, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Looking at it zoomed, you can see that the words protrude from rather than being carved into the base - this might be why they look unnatural. It looks like they've been stuck on there (like the stick-on letters you can buy at the store). Penubag, can you invert them so that they are receding rather than sticking out? The Transhumanist    21:05, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

The lettering on atlas is carved. Your mind just perceives it as it's protruding, sort of like what happens when you stare at this image for too long. I could protrude it and see if it looks different to you, but doing so will make it look like it's protruding to other people. -- penubag  (talk) 22:35, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Chirag's Comment

As a Advertising and Marketing professional, I prefer simplicity. This logo is quite complex. Rich colours and too many things happening. Thus said. Design is a personal preference. You could try the same thing in out in line art, or run it through a charcoal filter or some such. ChiragPatnaik (talk) 14:58, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

It's not a logo. It's an award (like a barnstar). Thank you for the comments though. :) The Transhumanist    22:05, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Thehelpfulone's Comments

Hi! I don't like the blue colour for the bottom bit, it looks a bit too odd. What context is it supposed to be used for? The man's face isn't visible and I don't think the gold goes well with the blue. I like the idea of a globe with the wiki logo, however. The Helpful One ^Review 18:33, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Hmm, I always thought that the blue balanced out all the yellows on top. But if not, what color would? Would it look better if I desaturated (took out some blue) or grayscale it? When you say the man's face isn't visible, are you saying it's too small, or too blurry or what? Please see the full resolution. -- penubag  (talk) 22:43, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

I think desaturating might help with the blue, but the man's face on full resolution looks too blurry, on the normal one it's too small and too blurry. The bottom half of the globe where the water is looks odd with lots of little circles? I think the blue of the water looks too fake, what about a more definite shade of blue (just an idea). The Helpful One ^Review 13:43, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

coolgyingman's comments

I think it is good but you should probably get rid of the bottom block or change it. It clashes with the gold and just looks completly unnatural. But other than that it is good. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Coolgyingman (talk • contribs) 22:57, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

AstroHurricane001's comments

Hi. Overall, it's pretty good. I do notice a few small minor problems however:

1. The bluish colour does look a bit awkward compared with the gold above, and the pattern is just a bit boring.
2. The edges of the image of the Greek god statue (Atlas?) look a bit unnatural, especially with the right elbow and foot on the left side of the image.
3. I don't think this is a big problem, but the Caspian Sea and Great Lakes are missing on the globe.
4. The "ocean" areas of the globe are mostly OK, but I think it could be a bit better with a slight tinge of gold blended in but still with enough contrast, and there appears to be an odd pattern near the equator, and the NE Pacific looks strange compared to the other areas of the ocean.
5. The puzzle pieces could use some of the Wikipedia logo's characters, if that's allowed (ie. no copyright issues).
6. The darkest parts of the statue are a bit too dark.
7. There appears to be a weird bulb-like thing on the statue's left foot (right side of image), which looks like the foot is squished or split in two.
8. It's kind of hard to tell what the creature on the statue's right shoulder is...a dog?
9. The inside of the globe looks just a little bit unnatural.
10. The "r" on "Developer" looks too close to the edge of the blue block.

That's about it. Thanks. ~AH1^(TCU) 01:26, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Good points. Here are some further comments on each:

1. Maybe the base should be black and white, or grayscale?
2. It appears the edges were damaged when the original image background was manually erased. To fix that would require re-extracting Atlas from the original image. Atlas' right foot (on the left side of the image) does appear to be damaged. See the original image for comparison at http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/09/Jimbo_holding_Wikipedia.jpg . It appears some of the original image's background wasn't erased.
3. I didn't notice the Great Lakes/Caspian Sea thing until Astro mentioned it - and he's right, they've disappeared! (They were on the previous version). Penubag, can you restore them?
4. Perhaps the oceans should just be a darker shade of gold than the continents? Then it will look like they are part of the same integrated whole. With the oceans a different color altogether, it looks like the globe is made of copper with gold continents added.
5. The symbols on the wikiglobe were left out because they are simply painted on - which doesn't fit with the sculted nature of the rest of the trophy. If they can be carved into the globe, I wouldn't mind having them put back in - but I have no idea how to do it.
6. Concerning the dark areas, the image has somehow become warped there. Look at Atlas' right gluteus maximus (butt cheek) in the original image. In the current version his butt cheek has become totally deformed. Can that be fixed?
7. The blob on the left foot is actually behind it. It's the lion pelt he's wearing - it drapes to the ground. The image would look better if that were removed so that his foot could be clearly seen.
8. If people don't recognize a lion pelt when they see one, I don't think there's much we can do about it. Though you can see the paws and claws pretty clearly in the original image, but these have been blurred beyond recognition in this version. Can that be fixed?
9. The color of the inside of the globe doesn't match the color of the outside of the globe (of which it should be a darker shade).
10. Don't worry about the word placement at this time - they will likely be replaced with a new trophy name.

The Transhumanist    21:50, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

• Regarding the base of the trophy, I'll come up with a desaturated and a grayscaled one.
• I hadn't noticed that some of the pieces have been destroyed, that'd be easy to fix though.
• Carving the symbols onto the wikiglobe would make it be too crowed imo. Having the map, the puzzle, and the symbols would be too much.
• About his gluteus maximus, I though that part actually looked good like that. But I guess it looks too wrinkly. I'm not sure how to fix this but I'll give it a try.

-- penubag  (talk) 23:22, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Summary of changes

•  Done Change the blue color of the base to something lighter
•  Done Fix the Caspian Sea and Great Lakes
•  Done Fix the dark parts of the statue to a lighter color
•  Done Fix the gradient inside the globe
• Attempt to fix damaged areas (Yright foot, Y butt)
•  Done Erase parts of background that should have been
•  Done Lighten dark areas, darken light areas

All done; I overwrote the preexisting file with the new one. -- penubag  (talk) 02:59, 7 December 2008 (UTC)