User talk:CorporateM/Mentor workspace

Desired skills and competencies

• Quick question: Under what circumstances can I upload a copyrighted image under the non-free use category for "promotional materials?" Would it be appropriate for me to upload an image of MarkMonitor's CEO? It's not included in an online press kit, but is part of his blogger profile? It's not promotional material the way product packaging is, but is a piece of marketing collateral. The tag says "such as" and I'm really not sure how broad or narrow it's intended to be.

• Neutrality. If my articles are still puffy, that's a clear priority
• General writing skills
• Diplomacy
• Policy education
• Off-Wiki

Perhaps we can do these in bi-monthly reviews. I can provide links in different categories and ask for your assessment. Perhaps with higher touch especially at first.

BusterD Reading Assignments

• Identifying the difference between internal links and external links(Check)
• WP:CITE (check), see WP:LINKFARM(check)
• Article assessment (see practice recommended below)(In progress)

• WP:5P (check)
• WP:GNG - (check)
• WP:V - (check)
• WP:COI - (check)
• WP:BLP - (check)

Volunteer Tasks

These are exercises which will help my backlog, while giving you valuable experience NOT related to your tasklist. I'd be willing to do real-time team editing here (and elsewhere--we're in the same time zone). Let's start small, with one new article which needs review: 125th Pennsylvania Volunteers, page creator is a newbie and while unskilled has made serious effort to do solid work. He deserves some wikilove.

• Practice using the Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military history/Assessment#Assessment backlogs, especially learning the value of Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/B-Class; this will give you some experiencing sorting wheat from chaff--recognizing both is a useful skill; this is a short-term assignment, maybe a week or so. Each assessment should take a few minutes. I'd like us both to do a few dozen by next week. Done.

• Over time help your mentor with some COI pages which need help (I'd like each of these to be at least start-class when we're finished, and possibly B-class): Peter Tomsen, Bill Pennington, Jonathan Miles (novelist), Robert Petkoff, Cornerstone Barristers

• Let's develop a list of off-wiki sources which discuss meta-wiki issues. This is a long term project which you've already begun.

General threaded discussion

Military Assessment Backlog

So next up would be to go through some of these and create similar assessments?

To be honest I don't use the Watch feature much. I prefer to focus on project work with once-annual updates to avoid WP:OWN. What do you suggest I watch?

Let's do some dozen or so random assessments, then we'll switch to biographies and lastly, companies. You need a few repetitions just so you'll know what a reviewer is thinking.

I watch everything I edit. If I was paid to bring a page up to a certain level of accuracy and coverage, I'd feel some obligation to protect my efforts, to the extent I didn't violate OWN. How you bill for that, I can't explain. I do it because I'm proud of my work. BusterD (talk) 21:01, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

I'm tempted to give Augustus Brine a "yes" for the citations category, but since the citations rely heavily on a few books, I can't check if these offline sources actually have all the information they're being cited for. How would you handle that? User:King4057 (COI Disclosure on User Page) 04:00, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

Ok, one more, if an article is already FA status, what do I do with its military history rating? I can only rank it up to B. User:King4057 (COI Disclosure on User Page) 04:32, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

Which article? In general, I'd skip fine points right now and stick to repetition. I think it's time to switch to biographies now. There are over 100,000 unassessed biographies, according to WikiProject Biography. Look at the banner template and notice the differences. Look it over carefully, especially the maintenance section, a useful tool indeed. For an example of a key difference, task forces are work groups. Also, no B-class checklist. There's a reason I started you with MilHist. Pick out about 20 biographies from varied alphabet initials and rate them. Remember to consider the B-class checklist you learned, and feel free to consider the B-class checklist FAQ I linked. Any questions, call on me. I'm at home writing today off-wiki. I'll be going out for a hike in a few hours (gorgeous weather today on the mountain). BusterD (talk) 15:33, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

Question - is it possible to list my draft HW Aerospace article for assessment by the Aviation Wikiproject? Or does it have to be live space? I already used the Wikiproject's talk page to flag them, but I'd be interested in an actual rating assessment. User:King4057 (COI Disclosure on User Page) 16:38, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

The biography guys are much more lax, but the articles aren't as good either. Mostly starts and stubs. I looked at the Wikiproject Aviation assessment. HW Aerospace would probably get B-class with them, even though it might be a C under military history. User:King4057 (COI Disclosure on User Page) 14:55, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

Company Article Assessments

Okay. You've got reps. I'd like you to visit Category:Unassessed company articles. I'd appreciate it if you'd visit Wikipedia:WikiProject Companies/Assessment, then assess about two dozen listings. This is the assessment you want to know the best. Remember what you've learned doing these assessments. I don't think I need to make the case further this is a useful and practical experience. Good homework, David. Nice job on the blog posts, too. BusterD (talk) 20:28, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks Buster. I just created the blog and website at EthicalWiki.com a couple weeks ago on a weekend-long binge and wrote a month's worth of blogs. I also created a slideshare and started a LinkedIn group yesterday. A lot of the materials aren't very polished yet and don't have a lot of readership, but I like having a hub of resources in addition to the blog at SocialFresh.

Anyways, I'll get started on these. User:King4057 (COI Disclosure on User Page) 14:45, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

Question: The assessment says that to win Start class, it has to meet basic policies like V, but doesn't give a lot of detail on how much V is needed. Often half an article is well-cited and the other half isn't, especially because some of it is written by the company and some by volunteers. How do I know when to bump up to Start class based on enough V? User:King4057 (COI Disclosure on User Page) 15:07, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

Rating company articles is interesting - lots of complaints about puffery and clean up after company edits. I noticed in many cases paid COI editors made non-controversial direct edits then flagged them on the Talk page, but without clearly identifying themselves. Seemed to work out ok, save for the lack of full disclosure. I still prefer the simple, no slippery slope advice of never directly editing an article. Anyways, what's next? User:King4057 (COI Disclosure on User Page) 03:06, 23 March 2012 (UTC)