JBW

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Regarding accounts with "Truth" in its user page...

Hi, JB, remember this from last month? "Bishonen once said something along the lines of "... like how we always block any account with "Truth" in its user page on sight. Well, actually we don't, but maybe we should." She was spot on, and the same probably applies to names with "Right" in them."

Well, we now have someone called TheCorrector111 removing large swaths of content with little explanation.   –Skywatcher68 (talk) 20:25, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

@Skywatcher68: I have blocked the account. Years ago in cases like this I used to go through AGF and friendly talk page warnings, but it was a waste of time, as such editors are never interested in listening to anyone else, and they end up blocked anyway, so I now move to the block much more quickly. As for the point about user names, I find having "correct" in them is a little less reliable an indication than "truth" and "right", as occasionally it really is someone who has created an account to correct some error, but it's certainly a flag that the user is worth watching for a while. JBW (talk) 21:06, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

SurrealDB incorrectly deleted under WP:G4

Hello JBW, I believe you may have mistakenly deleted SurrealDB under WP:G4 which excludes pages that have undergone improvement.

There's a more detailed explanation I have made at: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#SurrealDB_speedy_deleted_after_significant_changes

I understand the page was recreated so quickly after the original AfD, however, the company had raised $20m in USD, plus the launch of their cloud beta service which got some media attention which I believe now would establish notability, plus an additional number of other sources I was able to find.

I would like to have the page undeleted and undergo an additional AfD due to these changes, and I understand how you may not have noticed this.

Let me know what you think. Mr Vili talk 10:37, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

@Mr vili: and, in case it's of interest, Black Kite

1. What happened to the days when it was standard practice to consult the deleting administrator frst, and only have recourse to other venues if that did not produce an outcome that one was willing to accept?
2. For what it's worth, if I had just been asked I would have restored the page. I do not regard the changes you made to it as sufficient to justify recreating it in the face of the outcome of the deletion discussion, but many years ago I decided that there is so much divergence of opinion about how much change is needed to invalidate a G4 deletion that it just isn't worth arguing about if anyone contests it.
3. Mr vili, you seem to have a very strong devotion to the cause of keeping this article. Do you have a personal connection to it, such as being one of the developers of "SurrealDB", or some other connection?
4. A number if things you have said in relation to this article have suggested that your opinions are to some extent based on misunderstandings of the relevant guidelines or policies. For example, in the deletion discussion you said, apparently in answer to comments about the article being promotional, "additionally, currently the company has nothing to gain by 'selling' it on Wikipedia, the database is open sourced"; however, Wikipedia's policy is that no kind of promotional material is allowed, not just promotion for financial gain. JBW (talk) 12:58, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

   Regarding 1. I apologize for not consulting you first, I should've asked first. Regarding 3. No, I have no personal connection to SurrealDB, except using it as a developer. Regarding 4. I believe the article, if it was written in a promotional tone, is an issue that should be highlighted and fixed by editors if possible as opposed to being thrown in the bin or being used as an argument for deletion.

   Of course, I am only one editor and the way I write may not be WP:NOTPERFECT, and I encourage other editors to improve the article collaboratively.

   What do you think is the next best course of action? Personally I think it will survive a new AfD given the new sources I have found, as well as the new recent events involving the topic. Mr Vili talk 13:56, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

Can you un-delete my page-- Arizona Arts

Can you undelete my wikipedia page for Arizona Arts so I can edit the post to make it fit the guidelines. Since you deleted it I am unable to start over and since I was assigned to create a wiki page for my workplace (Arizona Arts) I would appreciate if you could undo what you did. I read that after a page gets declined I can edit it until I get it right, but you ruined things. Arilynndh (talk) 20:35, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

If there were no other considerations I would be reluctant to restore such material, written from start to finish as a piece of marketing copy, but I would consider possibly doing so. However, there is another problem. The page consisted substantially, and perhaps entirely, of material copied from the web site of the university, some of it verbatim, some of it very closely paraphrased. That is contrary to Wikipedia's copyright policy, and restoring it is not permitted by policy. Such copied text would not be allowed to be posted anywhere on Wikipedia unless the University were to provide an unambiguous statement that the text is freely licensed for anyone in the world to reuse, either as it is or modified in any way whatsoever, for any purpose whatsoever, subject only to suitable attribution to the Wikipedia page in question. It seems to me highly improbable that will happen. JBW (talk) 07:47, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

Tell me where exactly is it copied from the website. I wrote the whole article with the exception of the departments and the impact reports when I had to consult my boss as well as the department heads of each school. For the facilities I also used the website to write a description of the place, but I used my own words. Arilynndh (talk) 22:34, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

OK, Arilynndh, I have looked back at the deleted draft. The amount of text which was detected as copied was, in fact, much smaller than I remembered, and a significant part of that was trivial matter such as titles and names. Nevertheless, there was some text which was unambiguously copied. Compare, for example, the following from https://arts.arizona.edu/bio/andrew-schulz/:

• Andrew Schulz joined the University of Arizona as Dean of the College of Fine Arts in July 2018. In January 2019, he was named the inaugural Vice President for the Arts and charged with carrying out the reimagined vision for the arts at the University of Arizona, as defined in the university’s Strategic Plan

with the following from the draft which you posted:

• In July 2018, Andrew Schulz joined the University of Arizona as dean of the College of Fine Arts ... In January 2019, Schulz was named the inaugural vice president for the arts and was charged with carrying out the reimagined vision for the arts, highlighted in the university's strategic plan.

Those were essentially copies of the same text, with minor changes in wording.

Or turn to https://arts.arizona.edu/impact-reports/#flipbook-df_11514/1/ and compare:

• The annual State of the Arts Impact Report captures the extraordinary accomplishments of our students, faculty, staff, and alumni

with:

• Each year, Arizona Arts releases an impact report that captures the extraordinary accomplishments of students, staff, faculty, and alumni.

In view of the fact that the amount of copying was much smaller than had been my impression, I will restore the draft for you to attempt to improve it. However, please bear in mind that you must comply with all of Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, and that failure to do so may result in deletion of material and possibly a block from editing. JBW (talk) 08:29, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

Hoax by Alejitao123

Please also look into User:Alejitao123/sandbox5. It claims that a requirement for Argentine citizenship is to "Convert to the communism." It also claims that "Argentine Russian-language ability" used to be a requirement for citizenship. Thank you, Air on White (talk) 21:15, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

@Air on White: Thank you for pointing that out. I have deleted the page. As you may have seen, I had already deleted a number of userspace pages from that editor. I was tempted to just delete everything in their userspace, but that would be questionable. Checking each one individually was a slow procedure, as in many cases the vandalism is well hidden, and I evidently missed that bit. I will put some more time into the task, and of course you are very welcome to point out any clear cases that you see. JBW (talk) 07:09, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

Can you un-delete page made by me.

The page ""Talent Public School Narakkal"" wasn't made for or from advertising point of view, initially the article was an inspiration for me from pages like "Hidhayathul Islam Higher Secondary School" and "Toc-H Public School"

As I created article within for same day edit. I wish to improve it, from a neutral point of view and with WP Guidelines and Policies. Thank you MrBlank7 (talk) 18:02, 25 June 2024 (UTC)