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User:LazyStarryNights/List of compositions project

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Project edit

Purpose edit

This project aims to:

  • Improve lists of compositions in WP.
  • Seek alignment of WP and IMSLP data where possible.

See: Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Classical_music#Improving "List of compositions" articles

Done edit

In progress edit

General edit

Draft guideline edit

  • Use a sorted list of this format:
ID Title Key Genre Scored for Composed IMSLP Notes
  • Optimise the column widths
  • Strive for a complete list of compositions, including:
    • Unfinished compositions
    • Compositions, once wrongly attributed to composer. Use strike through for these.
    • Arrangements done by composer
    • Multiple versions of compositions if exist.
  • Multiple rows may be needed to:
    • Break down sets (eg song cycles, sets of quartets part of one opus, etc)
    • But should eg Mass and Opera be allowed to break down?
      • There are some examples of this around: eg Brahms Mass and Purcel operas.
    • Multiple versions or arrangements of work, can but do not need to be broken down. Break down if versions either one of different:
      • Instrumentation
      • Key
      • IMSLP link i this contains only 1 of the versions.
      • Year NOT?
      • etc?

Relevant links edit

Focus on columns edit

ID edit

Relevant links edit

Title edit

Draft guideline edit

  • For sets:
    • Use: Two Quartets
    • Avoid: Quartets (2)
    • Avoid: 2 Quartets
    • TBD The above was based on encountered so far as most commonn in WP, but is the IMSLP format not better, see TODO
    • Use: Twenty one Hungarian Dances
    • Avoid: Twenty one Hungarian Dances
  • For compositions either in or outside sets:
    • Use: Nachtwache No.1
    • Avoid: Nachtwache No.1
    • Avoid: Nachtwache I
    • Avoid: Nachtwache 1
    • But never use this for versions?

TODO edit

Bring the (song) Cycle naming difference WP (Brahms and Bruckner) vs IMSLP up.... Is it everywhere in WP? Why is that dif?

  • Pro IMSLP way sorting on more significant item
  • Schubert has similar as Brahms and Bruckner but in German
  • Boccherini states: 6 Violin Sonatas from cello sonatas
  • Should song cycle be a genre in itself?
  • Another alternative is no count at all.

Genre edit

TODO edit

Fix links in lists so far and the IMSLP mapping list edit

Relevant links edit

Scored For edit

Draft guideline edit

There are existing guidelines, but they may need to be sharpened more:

  • Avoid: abbreviations, capitalization
  • Use: sentence style, serial comma
  • Use links for each instrument in each occurrence in the column.
  • Examples:
  • Instrument order:


  • Choirs and Voices: only add extra information if not standard:
TODO edit
  • What should the column names be called?
    • Forces?
    • Scoring?
    • Scored For?
    • Instrumentation?
  • Should Vocal quartet or 4 Voices be used?
  • Winds - same issue as with strings? Should there be a Winds section?

winds

Ordering edit

Ideally List of compositions articles would use consistent ordering.

The IMSLP sources suggest: Solo voices, Choirs, Other in order of scoring.

  • Which order of scoring should be maintained: the standard order, or the order in the particuar work (i.e. take into account that some works have deviating order).

The WP sources suggest something similar, but not 100%, or not 100% clear:

  • It extends to solo exception to other instruments - eg in concertos.
  • It doesn't mention the exception for Choirs.

Which order to use?

Current proposal:

  1. Solo voices
  2. Choirs
  3. Solo instruments
  4. Other in order of standard scoring order (even if this contradicts actual sorting order).

Relevant links edit

Composed edit

Draft guideline edit

  • Add "c.", "?", "-", ",", or version info if needed, but keep short and arrange sorting keys if needed.
  • Avoid dates, since they clutter up the list and since much is composed long time ago dates do not give that much information. For dates users can go to the composition page.

TODO edit

What to do with range of years in sorting... Sort on oldest (presumably completion?) Do we want to have these ranges at all or only state the latest year (presumably completion) year?

IMSLP edit

Relevant links edit

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