Talk:Jumping stilts
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Article title once again
editNOTE! WTH it's named "...bocking"? It should be named "...BOKING" from eng. "bok" - poke, push, thrust. Plz rename article, cuz recent title is meaningless, and readdress all incoming requests. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.129.166.16 (talk) 16:03, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
It's called bocking because the inventor (who owns the patent) has the german name Böck. --62.203.143.235 (talk) 19:15, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
Important Information Seen as Advertising
editWhy is article constantly being revised for advertising? I understand that there have been some companies that have used this page as advertising, but there are real people who know what they are talking about. I say this page get pushed back to 24 October 2007 where it was edited by Delta999 at 14:19. That information is valid and does not point a bias to any particular brand, but rather point out what brands are out there. That revision is more complete than what Wikipedia has currently. The only issue to that revision would be getting rid of the opinion-based statements.Mcnaryxc (talk) 21:35, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
Where
editWHERE CAN I GET ME SOME OF THEM!!! -Unknown
Depends what country you're in. Search the internet for one of the brand names - Pro-Jump, Poweriser powerskips, 7 leagues. Us Bockers don't usually recommend buying second hand unless from one of the forums e.g. projump forums etc. Gazzat5 (talk)
Deletion nomination
editThis article was nominated for deletion on June 2006. The result of the discussion was no consensus. |
this article needs a massive overhaul. theres huge pieces of copied text and nothing is cited or referenced. I trimmed the external links as it was a huge cache of advertising. If anyone can find some RELEVANT external links, please add them. --Endlessrain 14:19, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
- The external links are still dominated by advertising, removing them has no effect they are quickly replaced. Is there a way of banning a specific link?Martin Cordon 17:20, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
Article title
editWhy is this called Poweriser? It doesn't mention or explain the term at all. If it is a brand name, this should be moved to Category:Shoe brands. Bards 22:30, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
- Poweriser is a brand name but it is also used, at the moment, generically to refer to all jumping stilts of this type in a similar manner to the connection between Hoover and Vacuum Cleaners. Hence the title. It is unfortunate that at the moment this article is slanted towards the Poweriser brand. More information on competing brands and a neutral point of view is needed. I would also like to thank the anonymous editor who removed the Learned Opinion. Martin Cordon 15:56, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
Poweriser is a brand name but it is sold by several different manufacturers.Xkixs 23:18, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
NOTE! WTH it's named "...bocking"? It should be named "...BOKING" from eng. "bok" - poke, push, thrust. Plz rename article, cuz recent title is meaningless, and readdress all incoming requests. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.129.166.16 (talk) 16:01, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
It is named bocking as a reference back to the original inventor Alexander Bock. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.28.255.174 (talk) 15:25, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
Move, cleanup
editArticle cleaned up and moved. A great deal of the content and links were entirely inappropriate. Always makes me smile to see the "please don't remove my link" hidden messages. WP:EL covers that one... Deiz talk 04:33, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks Deiz, the external links area was a disaster zone before. --77.99.43.181 21:34, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
Merge Jumping stilts here
editIt seems unnecessary to have two articles on the same topic, especially as this one is already mostly about the stilts themselves, and it makes sense to cover the activity and the stilts in the same article. Basil Richards 19:23, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
- Agree with the proposal. Would also tone down the bias. Currently it seems written more in the style of a sales pitch for a toy than a purely informative article Tobermory 13:15, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
- I've merged it now. The version you were referring to was a re-write by Delta999 here, which was reverted once already by another editor. I have reverted it again as it is unencyclopedic in tone and appeared to promote the Pro-Jump company, ie Delta999 replaced the original Powerizer image with 3 Pro-Jump images, adding the text "Currently Pro-Jump sell them at the lowest price", etc. Basil Richards 20:46, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
External link spelling
editIs it 'Powerskip' or 'PowerSkip', Bock with an accent or 'Boeck'? 'Poweriser' or 'Powerizer'? This article does not have consistant spelling and this needs remedying. I have redirected the different spellings of the term to this article due minimize confusion, but despite this consistancy would be a good idea. Tyciol (talk) 03:30, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
Copyright
edit"The fourth is called Skyrunner, which does not pay royalties to Alexander Böck and is illegal in copyright-protected countries." Is that true? Does copyright apply here? Patents maybe, but they're entirely separate. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.111.135.211 (talk) 19:41, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
Rename
editHow do people feel about a renaming of this article? It seems that every cite and link refers to this activity with a different name. More disturbingly, many of these are based on product brands. Perhaps because of this, there also doesn't seem to be any accepted worldwide consensus, as these type of stilts are sold under different names in different countries. Wouldn't "Jumping stilts" or "Jump stilts" or "Jump stilting" be a better, more neutral, more descriptive title for the article? Of course, the article would only benefit from also trying to cite all the regional variants. Alvis (talk) 04:33, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
Used in Beijing Olympics closing ceremony?
editThese look like some accessories used in the Beijing Olympics Closing Ceremony, 24 August 2008. Most news reports refer to pogo sticks, but the video seemed to show dancers with spring-loaded stilts like these. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.89.114.60 (talk) 02:16, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
Yes powerbocks did appear in the closing ceremony. I believe the brand used was a chinese brand called skyrunners. Have a look at this forum entry which is apparently started by the guy who trained the bockers. Olympic Games bocking trainer at Poweriserpages84.13.170.78 (talk) 15:55, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
I added a statement about that with a link to a video, which I believe is a valid verifiable source as it seems to meet the requirements of WF:SELFPUB in that it's video evidence and anyone who saw the games would be able to back-up it's authenticity. Gazzat5 (talk) 11:10, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
Kangaroo Boots
editI think someone's confused about what kangaroo boots are - see http://kangoojumps.com/ I've personally never heard bockers called kagaroo boots, but perhaps this is some regional slang. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.224.135.98 (talk) 05:31, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
Speed and heights seem wrong
editI have no better figures, but the numbers given here seem to be way to small. The fastest sprinter makes over 22mph, so I guess you should be faster on powerisers. I tried to take my own time and got approx. 25 mph, while I wasn't running fast. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Der Shim (talk • contribs) 09:01, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
Yes, they are two small. I raced a truck down a small incline and was clocked at 30mph. Unfortunately unless we get in it a paper or such the wikipedians say it doesn't count. Gazzat5 (talk) 10:41, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
new pictures on commons
editHi, i got agreement from author and now we have few approved pictures of proffesional powerbockers on commons. There is still category under name "Poweriser" and should be renamed. I hope this pictures will be usefull. Greetings from Czech rep. --85.71.134.23 (talk) 16:48, 6 May 2010 (UTC) / El Carlos from cs wiki
Unencyclopedic stuff
editThis good faith additions need considerable cleanup before they fit into the article. Every sport has some risk. Compare with skiing. Richiez (talk) 10:51, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
Safety Instructions
editLike any extreme sport, power bocking has a element of risk involved. However, injuries can be avoided if proper safety guidelines are followed. As with all sports you must know your limits and use common sense as your guide. These tools are capable or propelling the user to heights of seven feet in the are or more so you should keep in mind that you are free falling from this height. Protective gear should be worn at all times. This includes a helmet, athletic shoes, elbow and knee pads, along with wrist guards.
Warnings
editYou should inspect your equipment before each use to ensure that all of the hardware is snug and is in perfect working condition. To prevent injury, wear safety equipment at all times: If questions about safety arise revert back to the paragraph labeled safety. For safe operation never use on a wet or slippery conditions or on the following surfaces:
- rough or uneven surface
- stairs
- soft or carpeted areas
- sloppy places
Check to make sure their is ample clearance on all sides, and never jump off of something that you can not jump onto. The weight tables provided on which ever site you choose is right for your use should be followed for best results, always rounding up if on the border. Never use springs under your weight due to the high probability of the spring failing, causing injury to the user and damage to the product. These are not to be used on roads, near vehicles, or pedestrians. Modifications disassembly, or repairs to these products are highly condoned to prevent injuries, if a problem occurs you should contact the vendor and see about a replacement pair. Never replace parts with uncertified parts.Adult supervision is required.
Service and Cleaning
editAll repairs should be taken care of by a certified dealer before use. Avoid scraping the springs with sharp objects. To clean wipe off with a clean dry cloth, do not scrape off dirt. Many unauthorized ways of protecting the spring are floating around on the internet, if money is tight and you cannot find nylon spring covers, simply wrap the springs in electrical tape. I suggest twice, just enough to give an extra protective layer but not enough to hinder the springs ability to bend.
Stretching and Warming Up
editBeing as this particular sport is much like running a mile, without actually running the mile. Instead only running a couple hundred feet, this is a very cardio heavy activity which should be treated with respect, if you are not much of a runner maybe this is not the sport for you, but what ever you decide make sure your body is properl stretched and warmed up for this strenuous activity.
Stretches
editFor best results, try out the 12 stretches recommended below. Mix up the routine do at least three types of each. Repeat each stretch two or three times:
- Wall Pushup #1: Stand about three feet from a wall, feet at shoulder width and flat on the ground. Put your hands on the wall with your arms straight for support. Lean your hips forward and bend your knees slightly to stretch your calves.
- Wall Pushup #2: From the previous position, bend forward to lower your body to waist height. Bring one foot forward with your knee slightly bent. Lift the toes of the front foot to stretch the muscle under the calf. Stretch both legs.
- Wall Pushup #3: Put your feet together, rocking back on your heels with your hands on the wall and your arms straight to form a jackknife with your body. This stretches your hips, shoulders, and lower back.
- Back Scratch: Grab your elbow with the opposite hand and gently push the elbow up and across your body until your hand reaches down to "scratch" your back. Gently push on your elbow to guide your hand down your back as far as it will comfortably go, stretching your triceps and shoulders. Stretch both arms.
- Hamstring Stretch: Lie down with one leg straight up in the air, the other bent with foot flat on the ground. Loop a towel over the arch of the lifted foot, and gently pull on the towel as you push against it with your foot. Push only to the point where your muscles contract. Stretch both legs.
- Quadriceps Stretch: Kneel (without resting back on your heels) Lean back with your body erect and your arms to the side. Hold for 15 seconds.
- Heel To Buttock: Stand on one foot, with one hand on a wall for balance. Hold the other foot with the opposite hand and raise the heel of the lifted foot to the buttocks (or as close as comfortably possible), stretching your quadriceps. Keep your body upright throughout. Change legs and repeat.
- Hip & Lower Back Stretch: Sit on the ground with your legs crossed. Lift your right leg and cross it over the left, which should remain bent. Hug the right leg to your chest and twist the trunk of your body to look over your right shoulder. Change legs and repeat (i.e. looking over your left shoulder).
- Iliotibial Band Stretch: Lie on your side with both legs bent in running position. Bring the bottom leg toward your chest and then bring the top one back toward your buttocks, so that the running position of your legs is exaggerated as possible. Hold for 30 seconds then flip sides and repeat.
- Hamstring & Back Stretch: Lie on your back with your knees bent. Hug your shins to your chest to stretch your hamstrings and lower back.
- Bridge: Lie on your back and, with your feet flat on the ground, lift your hips up until your body forms a flat plane. Repeat this one ten times for 30 seconds each to stretch your quads and lower back.
- Groin Stretch: Seated, put the soles of your feet together. With your elbows on the inside of your knees, gradually lean forward and gently press your knees toward the ground.
Warm Ups
editI recommend a few breathing exercises to get your lungs and heart used to the change in pace and energy required to make even the simplest of moves. Such as:
- Running in place for a little bit or until your breathing picks up, usually when you feel much warmer than before you started.
- When breathing is difficult or or short, take long deep breaths until breathing returns to normal.
- If out of breath, put hands behind head and continue moving.
- If relaxing lay flat until breathing returns to normal.
Idea: climbing trees with powerbockers
editHello, I'm apollo11w and I saw this page and I thought, it might be possible to put something on the hooves of a powerbocker that could keep balance on a tree branch so that you can jump up to the next branch 6 ft up. For starters, it might be possible to add a front facing upward curving hook for hanging. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.21.202.185 (talk) 17:21, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
Fix Risk Section?
editThe 'Risk' section does not contain risks inherent of jumping stilts, such as common injuries due to motion, mechanical failures, legal concerns or whatnot. Instead the section lists a single instance where a daredevil stunt went wrong. By that logic, a risk of walking is falling off a tightrope. 98.235.170.101 (talk) 21:45, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
- No idea why this section is still here. I removed it as you suggested. Puntran (talk) 02:32, 12 March 2023 (UTC)