File talk:Australian large car sales 1991 onwards.png

Sourec data

1991 1992 1993 1994 1995 1996 1997 1998 1999 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012

Commodore sedan+wagon 50,820 57,641 62,663 75,330 80,452 83,001 76,849 94,642 85,648 83,610 85,422 88,478 86,553 79,170 66,794 56,531 57,307 51,093 44,387 45,956 40,617 30,532

Falcon sedan+wagon 48,430 57,832 64,941 72,924 81,366 77,835 71,850 68,758 70,084 60,460 53,534 54,629 73,220 65,384 53,080 42,390 33,941 31,936 31,023 29,516 18,741 14,036

Avalon, Camry 6 etc 0 0 6844 7996 7886 10701 11786 18694 21281 22449 20230 19004 19343 19654 14995 9431 22044 19562 13910 11764

Other 9,037 16,382 22,965 26,326 24,872 27,369 38,809 35,270 31,110 32,247 31,117 26,237 24,408 17,470 32,512 28,254 26,385 16,748 12,381 11,347

Upper medium/Large car segment 108287 131855 157413 182576 194576 198906 199294 217364 208123 198766 190303 188348 203524 181678 167,381 136,606 139,677 119,339 101,701 98,583 78,077

data source is VFACTS (see the table on the commodore page for links)

The segment used to be called upper medium but was changed to large in 1995 roughly, the same cars qualified. Greglocock (talk) 05:54, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

Should be text

If the fuckwit editor who thinks this graph should be text thinks the text above is easier to understand than a graph, then by all means use the text. Don't just add a lazy tag. Greglocock (talk) 06:12, 31 December 2015 (UTC)

Everybody wants their say on here! But I agree with you Greglocock. Incidentally, I changed the graphical legend to add brands. What did you mean by "etc" with the Toyotas? Just V6 or also the 4 cylinders? — Preceding unsigned comment added by CtrlXctrlV (talk • contribs) 15:58, 1 January 2016‎ (UTC)

It's a catchall for the Toyotas that were classified as large cars, which from memory was the V6 variant of the models. Greglocock (talk) 22:10, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

• @Greglocock: That's not solely what the tag represents. It also means that there is a way for the information to be represented with either templates and/or wiki markup. Numerical data and graphs almost always meets this criterion, and this one is no exception. And the tag just means that the editor who tagged it sees that it is possible, but may not have the knowledge or the time to figure it out. I mean, after all, Wikipedia is a volunteer project. Bad faith assumptions and name calling serve no purpose here. Steel1943 (talk) 18:09, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

I have created a version of the graph using Template:Line_chart. Easier to maintain and update than the image, can be stored in its own template page for use on various pages. Size can be adjusted if required. – Kytabu 00:07, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

Australian large car sales (1991–2012)

Holden Commodore (sedan and wagon)   Ford Falcon (sedan and wagon)   Toyota Aurion and Camry (six-cylinder)   Other   Total Upper Medium and Large Car segment

• @Kytabu: Wow, that looks good. Steel1943 (talk) 00:32, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

@Steel1943: Thank you. If others are happy to make the switch I will create a template page with optional title and legend, and width variation. – Kytabu 00:37, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

Excellent! CtrlXctrlV (talk) 01:27, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

Yes that's fineGreglocock (talk) 01:32, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

• If this template gets created, this talk page probably needs to be moved to the template's talk page. Steel1943 (talk) 01:29, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

I'm going away this afternoon so I've left the code for the graph, with template variables included, in my sandbox if someone else wants to make the template page. I tried making it so that each line could be displayed individually, or to have any combination of the lines, but I couldn't get it to work. If someone knows how to achieve that, I feel it would be desirable, especially for use on the individual car pages. – Kytabu 01:34, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

@Kytabu: Anyone else creating the template may cause some WP:CWW issues. I know I'm in no hurry, so I can wait. :) Steel1943 (talk) 01:37, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

Great template. This should be easier to update but the source code looks frightening to me! OSX (talk • contributions) 12:35, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

I have created the template at Template:Australian large car sales. I have added it to Ford Falcon (Australia) and Holden Commodore but I am not sure how to implement it at Automotive industry in Australia considering the images surrounding it in that article. – Kytabu 01:10, 10 January 2016 (UTC)