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:::::I would encourage you to remember to [[WP:AGF|assume good faith]] when dealing with other editors. Accusing other editors of having an "agenda" (or in my case, of vandalism) is not generally conducive to a friendly and mutually respectful discussion.
:::::@[[User:Panenkazo|Panenkazo]] If you disagree with BRDude's interpretation of guidelines you basically have three choices. You can discuss it here, open a formal discussion and request clarification or propose that community consensus has changed, or you can drop the matter. However this is handled, there has been a lot of back and forth editing on this, and that needs to stop. It's getting late here. But I will check back to see where we are tomorrow (err later today). -[[User:Ad Orientem|Ad Orientem]] ([[User talk:Ad Orientem|talk]]) 04:58, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
* I have restored the simple section noting the player's origin. There is no doubt they are from Catalonia. Identification is a separate issue. If you wish to start an RfC on this issue, that may be the way to go. But it is clear there is consensus to include the ''fact'' of their origin, so please stop edit-warring over this issue. [[User_talk:Black Kite|Black Kite (talk)]] 05:32, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
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