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::Seems like you're thinking this vote is payback just because I nominated some pages for deletion that were made by UPEs. Because seriously, how can you just brush off those reliable sources that clearly say he was the creator, director or producer of those shows I mentioned in the table and that there's not enough coverage about Zaka's shows. Seriously? Every single one of his shows is all over legit sources. Like, come on! —[[User:Saqib|<span style="color:#005080">Saqib</span>]] ([[User talk:Saqib|<span style="color:#700090">talk</span>]] I [[Special:Contributions/Saqib|<span style="color:#996600">contribs</span>]]) 19:35, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
:::I feel like this statement from The Wire says it all "Zaka started his television career in the early 2000s and gained recognition as the host and director of Pakistan’s first adventure/dare game show, Living On The Edge. Other shows he is recognised for, and sometimes ridiculed, include XPOSED, Desi Kuriyan and Video On Trial."{{pb}}I'll be honest, I don't have any sense of how important Living on the Edge is. The rest of it seems clearly to fail on "significant". Note that #1 is an interview which should get low or no weight.{{pb}}@[[User:Saqib|Saqib]] considering [[WP:AGF]] do you perhaps want to strike your comment about payback? [[User:Oblivy|Oblivy]] ([[User talk:Oblivy|talk]]) 00:27, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
::::No, I'm not backing down from what I said. It's super obvious if one check out Libraa2019 involvement in AfDs and why they voted to delete here. It's like a total retaliation vote.This editor is all over creating and editing bios of not-so-famous actors, but they voted to delete this BLP just because I said keep. —[[User:Saqib|<span style="color:#005080">Saqib</span>]] ([[User talk:Saqib|<span style="color:#700090">talk</span>]] I [[Special:Contributions/Saqib|<span style="color:#996600">contribs</span>]]) 09:48, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
*'''Delete''', close to the borderline of [[WP:GNG]], fails [[WP:NCREATIVE]] per the sources available and before search results. I agree with the source analysis to a high extent but I have a little bit of doubt as to how all the national media platforms listed are not reliable. What I found was that those specific articles from some of the sources are unreliable because some appear as PR or paid for articles. The BBC and Reuters articles are reliable but not enough to establish clear cut notability. The publisher of this [https://www.dawn.com/news/448557/chit-chat-meet-waqar-zaka] may be reliable but the specific article cited here is unreliable because it is an interview and the headline itself says it all “Chit Chat Meet Waqar Zaka”. This [https://thewire.in/culture/qandeel-baloch-unmasking-patriarchy-death] is a mere passing mention of the subject. This [https://herald.dawn.com/news/1153877] and this [https://thewire.in/gender/bold-means-women] appear organic but I suspect a PR material pretending to be an organic press article. These two sources are published in two different newspapers but their completely same from byline to headline and the body of the article. My suspicion is particularly heighted for the fact that most news outlets named The Wire are always news agencies distributing PR materials. The date of publication of the article in Herald shows Updated 10 November 2018 while at the bottom it say the article was first published in June 2017 Issue. Then it was published in The Wire on 13 January 2018. This may be a PR campaign. This [https://www.bolnews.com/latest/2023/06/waqar-zaka-steps-into-film-production-babylicious-reviving-pure-romance-in-pakistani-films/] seems to be a paid press announcing the release of the film, it was an objective review of the film it would have been clear where this source stands. This [https://tribune.com.pk/story/837229/waqar-zaka-says-line-pe-ajao/] is a clear sponsored post instructing people interested in his show to download an app of the sponsors of the program. These [https://www.thenews.com.pk/tns/detail/1030194-heres-what-weve-gathered-from-the-four-corners-of-the-world] [https://tribune.com.pk/story/2448056/waqar-zaka-tried-to-sabotage-my-position-as-a-morning-show-host-nida-yasir] sources only gave passing mentions are simply in the article populate it. Several links seem dead and can’t be accessed for an assessment. For the trial, it does not seem to be a serious trial because the before search did not turn up strong media coverage expect of a person possibly being tried by the state. Using a few sources about the trial may mean that subjects who are charged for all kind of offences and received two or media coverage may want to use that for their qualification for a Wikipedia page. [[User:Piscili|Piscili]] ([[User talk:Piscili|talk]]) 09:46, 21 May 2024 (UTC)