Talk:Israel–Hamas war: Difference between revisions

:'''Oppose''' per BilledMammal. - [[User:AquilaFasciata | AquilaFasciata]] ([[User talk:AquilaFasciata |talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/AquilaFasciata |contribs]]) 14:48, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

'''Support''' 2023–2024 Israel–Gaza War, per Nableezy. The Israeli-Hamas war title is contrafactual, given the objective realities - the massive shifting of 2 million people periodically, the continual killing of large numbers of civilians, who form the majority of the victims, and the thorough devastation of the entire civilian-use infrastructure of the Strip- all of which no one doubts. Hamas is said to have a military of 30-40,000 people, say 2% of the entire population. To suggest or imply that Israel's strategy is exclusively or predominantly directed against that 2% is patently ridiculous, and contradicts the many statements made by the very heads of the operation, whose public statements about the whole population of Gaza as targets are too familiar to need repeating here and are confirmed as reflecting a specific intent, as one can see, to cite just one more example, by [https://law4palestine.org/law-for-palestine-releases-database-with-500-instances-of-israeli-incitement-to-genocide-continuously-updated/ a confidential memo from the Dutch Defense attaché in Tel Aviv, according to which 'the Israeli army "intends to deliberately cause massive destruction to infrastructure and civilian centers" in Gaza. This strategy explains the "high number of deaths" among the civilian population.'] (13 November 2023) [[User:Nishidani|Nishidani]] ([[User talk:Nishidani|talk]]) 16:00, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

'''Comment''' I have no idea what prompted you to consider the title "2023 Gaza War" when the year is 2024 and the war is still ongoing. This just makes the discussion confusing as now many editors ''on your side'' have to clarify that they want a different wording making it clear that the war is still ongoing in 2024. [[User:JDiala|JDiala]] ([[User talk:JDiala|talk]]) 19:07, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

'''Support''' 2023–2024 Israel–Gaza War per Nishidani and Nableezy. I also note that per [[WP:COMMONNAME]], {{xt|"when there are multiple names for a subject, all of which are fairly common, and the most common has problems, it is perfectly reasonable to choose one of the others"}} and the title "Israel-Hamas war" is problematic as it implies the war is not a war against the people of Gaza, and gives credence to the narrative that Israel is only fighting Hamas and not the people of Gaza. There is ample evidence at this point that this is questionable at best (the most recent of which being the massacre in Rafah). [[User:JDiala|JDiala]] ([[User talk:JDiala|talk]]) 19:07, 29 May 2024 (UTC)