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Does a FL need to have the name "list" in the title? (you can laugh if that's a dumb question) I've already written the 14 articles found in the table. APK hi :-) (talk) 08:16, 20 February 2024 (UTC)

@APK: It does not, each content area has their own naming standards but there's plenty of FLs that don't have "list" in the title. Usually it's when there isn't both an article named "X" and one named "List of X", so in this case you'd be fine to leave the title as-is. --PresN 12:54, 20 February 2024 (UTC)

• • Thank you. APK hi :-) (talk) 13:08, 20 February 2024 (UTC)

Proposal to Add to the Featured List Criteria

I propose the following addition to WP:FLCR #5 (open to wordsmithing and linking to improve it):

• (c) Accessibility. It is accessible to all readers. Bulleted and unbulleted lists should utilize proper formatting so that they can be accurately read by screen readers. Tables should utilize appropriate table tags to allow web browsing tools to properly navigate the data presented in tabular form.

« Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 15:01, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

I'm in favor; it makes explicit what we've been holding "Style. It complies with the Manual of Style and its supplementary pages." to mean for a long time now. --PresN 16:10, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

Support: It's essentially been a de facto requirement anyways, better to spell it out in the requirements. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:42, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

Support - I didn't realize that this wasn't already in the criteria. -- ZooBlazer 17:52, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

Support the principle, but not this wording. There are other accessibility issues that come to mind (image alt text and color usage come to mind), and while lists and tables are obviously key, we shouldn't imply these are the only items that matter. It would help to link directly to the relevant MOS page, not a subsection (since the entire MOS page is fair game). I suggest: (c) Accessibility. It uses proper formating to be accessible to all readers. Bulleted and unbulleted lists and tables are structured correctly as applicable. RunningTiger123 (talk) 02:09, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

RunningTiger123, I am fine with your wording and linking, other than as applicable. I would strike this as it is self-evident that the MOS and the FLCR are applicable. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 14:22, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

I added that since most FLs only have one or the other, not both, but I don't find it particularly necessary, either. RunningTiger123 (talk) 01:20, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

Support It would save us from having to link to PresN's comments everywhere. RunningTiger's wording seems better to me. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 02:45, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

All, I added the criterion. I boldly appended the hidden text that was currently hidden in the criteria regarding alt text to this criterion. Please feel free to wordsmith as needed. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 15:56, 15 March 2024 (UTC)

Awesome, I'm happy with the wording used. --PresN 16:28, 15 March 2024 (UTC)

Total awards/nominations in infobox/lede/TFL-summary should be avoided

Motivated by the IMO spurious assertion on the Mainpage today that "The Philippine television newscast 24 Oras has won thirty-two awards from ninety-three nominations", I've started a discussion at Template talk:Infobox awards list#Totals should be avoided. Comments there are welcome. jnestorius^(talk) 14:50, 15 March 2024 (UTC)

Missing lists

I've just tried to do a sort of reconciliation of the featured lists and found nine that were marked as FLs which weren't listed on the project page and had no record on their talk pages of going through the FLC process so I've de-starred them. That leaves the following eight which all appear to be featured lists but are missing from the project page:

• List of sovereign states without armed forces
  • Present as "List of countries without armed forces"
• List of World Tag Team Champions (WWE, 1971–2010)
  • Present as "List of World Tag Team Champions (WWE)"
• List of NHL awards
  • Present as "List of National Hockey League awards"
• Gaylactic Spectrum Award for Best Short Fiction
  • Present as "List of Gaylactic Spectrum Award winners and nominees for best short fiction"
• Gaylactic Spectrum Award for Best Other Work
  • Present as "List of Gaylactic Spectrum Award winners and nominees for best other work"
• Timeline of the Jin–Song wars
  • Present as "Timeline of the Jin–Song Wars"
• Ayushmann Khurrana filmography
  • Present as "Ayushmann Khuranna filmography"
• List of Saxifragales, Vitales and Zygophyllales families
  • An actual error- it's listed, but the link is actually a duplicate link to "List of lilioid families"

Please could someone more qualified add them to the approriate section. JP (Talk) 18:49, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

Checked these and noted what the deal is inline- most of them are just page moves, but one was a bad link. All now fixed, thank you for finding them! --PresN 19:33, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

For record-keeping, the lists that got stars taken off are:

• List of people who have held multiple United States Cabinet-level positions (star added in 2022)
• Stan Laurel filmography (star added in 2023)
• Oliver Hardy filmography (star added in 2023)
• NWA World Women's Tag Team Championship (star added in 2021)
• Cirque du Soleil discography (star added in 2022)
• List of India Test cricket records (star added in 2021)
• List of awards and nominations received by Don Omar (star added in 2022)
• List of Zimbabwe Test cricket records (star added in 2020)
• List of Disc number-one singles (star present when page created in 2021)
• List of ROH World Television Champions (page history is messed up, but it was there in 2023)
• Filmography of David Cronenberg (star present when page created in 2023)

They were all erroneous, and largely seem to be people copying a block of bottom-of-the-page templates from a similar list without looking closely at what they were doing. Thank you again, @Jpeeling:! --PresN 19:50, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for checking these, List of World Tag Team Champions (WWE) and List of World Tag Team Champions (WWE, 1971–2010) are separate lists with both showing as featured but only the former is listed. JP (Talk) 20:22, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

Hmm, messy. Looks like "List of World Tag Team Champions (WWE)" was moved to the "1971-2010" title, and then "List of WWE Raw Tag Team Champions" moved to take its place. That means that the star moved to the 1971-2010 list, as List of WWE Raw Tag Team Champions was never reviewed (though the list looked very different in 2007!). I'll remove the star and sort it out. --PresN 20:37, 30 May 2024 (UTC)