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Sept 25: WikiWednesday Salon NYC

September 25, 7pm: WikiWednesday Salon NYC

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Hello I did add a reference/source to my edit.https://www.scmp.com/news/china/military/article/3109809/chinas-aircraft-carrier-killer-missiles-successfully-hit-target 158.223.166.78 (talk) 16:23, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

You added an incorrectly formatted external link to a section that does not take external links, with no indication as to what claim it is supposed to be supporting. That's not adding a reference, that's linkspam. ⇒SWATJester ^{Shoot Blues, Tell VileRat!} 16:36, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

annual warrior competition

The sky sword unit is a Chinese special forces unit belonging to the PLAAF Airborne Brigade 158.223.166.78 (talk) 16:42, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

You need to provide a properly formatted reference for that claim. ⇒SWATJester ^{Shoot Blues, Tell VileRat!} 16:53, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

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People will object

With regard to "people will object just to the re-organizing despite what WP:PGCHANGE and WP:PGBOLD say," I'd change "people" to "one person in particular." Can you say Wikipedia:Status quo stonewalling? - Butwhatdoiknow (talk) 16:26, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

I think the number of people who would do this is quite a few, unfortunately. ⇒SWATJester ^{Shoot Blues, Tell VileRat!} 18:26, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Thu April 25: WikiNYC Hacking Night

April 25: Hacking Night @ Prime Produce

Past event at Prime Produce. You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for NYC Hacking Night at Prime Produce in Hell's Kitchen, Manhattan. It is intended primarily for technical contributors, though newcomers are welcome as well! All attendees are subject to Wikimedia NYC's Code of Conduct and Wikimedia's Technical Code of Conduct. Meeting info: Thursday, April 25 Hacking Night @ Prime Produce (optional RSVP on-wiki). 7:00 pm – 9:30 pm (Introductions + Hacking) 9:30 pm – 10:00 pm (Showcase) (Prime Produce, Hell's Kitchen, Manhattan)

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May 8: WikiWednesday Salon with new Executive Director

May 8: WikiWednesday @ Prime Produce

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The Bugle: Issue 217, May 2024

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CW Rebranding

On Logopedia, many CW affiliates rebranded, also, those logos are real and have been does by the affiliates owners or Nexstar. BMarGlines (talk) 23:41, 16 May 2024 (UTC)

@BMarGlines: Logopedia is a wiki which anyone can edit, and it is not a reliable source. As far as I can tell, every single one of those logos was a hand-made replacement from Junebug, not an original. There's simply no evidence to suggest that these are in any way official logos, and there's no evidence to suggest that the actual logos which are still in use on those affiliates websites (which are NOT the ones you've been adding) have changed either. To be honest, it looks quite a bit like a weirdly disruptive attempt to get around our non-free image usage criteria by using near-knockoffs released under free licenses instead of the actual logos (which remain under the claimed copyright of their owners). In any event, as I said, you'll need to provide a reliable source for your changes.⇒SWATJester ^{Shoot Blues, Tell VileRat!} 01:44, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

The KOMU-DT3 YouTube video AIRED on the ACTUAL station! BMarGlines (talk) 12:58, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

Maybe it did, maybe it didn't, but it's not an acceptable reliable source, and the actual KOMU-TV website is *not* using that logo. Do not make further unsourced logo changes to logos not actually in use. Per policy, you *must* provide a citation to a reliable source and gain consensus before reinserting this material. If you continue, you may be blocked from further editing for disruption. ⇒SWATJester ^{Shoot Blues, Tell VileRat!} 14:36, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

Same with WWTI-DT2 BMarGlines (talk) 15:38, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

And once again, there is the same problem -- you have not provided a reliable source that shows the logo has changed, and as far as I can tell thus far, literally every single one of those logo changes has been invalid: not just due to being unsourced but in several cases I was able to verify that you were changing the logo *away* from the actual one in use, to one that has no evidence of being in use and appears to be fan-created. You seem to be under the mistaken perception that following Wikipedia policy is optional -- it is not. You are *required* by policy to provide a reliable source for contested material, and you are required to seek and gain consensus before reinserting controversial content. See, e.g. WP:V, WP:RS, WP:BURDEN etc. "Some guy on youtube says this is official" is NOT a reliable source -- and in general the community has determined that Youtube videos are not reliable sources either (see WP:RSPYT). "I got it off Logopedia" is also not a reliable source (as that is a wiki that anyone can edit). And you're presumably already aware that Junebug was taking these fan-made images off of Logopedia, converting their format, and uploading them inappropriately to Commons under incorrect licenses, to then try and replace the *actual* logos on Wikipedia with her fanmade fakes -- a type of vandalism that you're also participating. You've been made aware of what our policies require several times, you've been repeatedly warned, and this is not a subject up for debate -- if you continue to make disruptive edits to television station logos, you're going to be blocked from editing. ⇒SWATJester ^{Shoot Blues, Tell VileRat!} 17:02, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

I have filed a report over on Commons (c:Commons:Administrators' noticeboard/User problems#User:BMarGlines) and nominated the logos for deletion. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 17:27, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

Thanks. BTW I suspect this one may have also been in error, as I do not see that logo in use anywhere on the KFDM website, and suspect it's like the others (the file page similarly notes it was inappropriately sourced from Logopedia, which makes it unverifiable as being official in any way).⇒SWATJester ^{Shoot Blues, Tell VileRat!} 17:37, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

It needs to be explained that some stations aired station identifications with the new CW Logo. I'm not saying you're wrong. mer764KCTV5 / Cospaw (He/Him | Talk • Contributions) 17:54, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

That may be the case. And the way we can confirm that is by providing a reliable source to verify that a new CW logo exists. We cannot simply rely on someone's mere assertion that a change happened, and we cannot accept fan-made copies found on wikis as substitutes purporting to be the real thing. ⇒SWATJester ^{Shoot Blues, Tell VileRat!} 17:58, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

Okay, I do agree with you. I do have an question, some of the CW Plus logos have been updated, (the ones that aren't owned by say, Sinclair or Nexstar, A.K.A. the ones that the website is the one that The CW can provide to its affiliates) .... I think I forgot the question I was going to say. Oops. mer764KCTV5 / Cospaw (He/Him | Talk • Contributions) 18:14, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

Sinclair CW affiliates

The website reads old logos, but they're outdated! BMarGlines (talk) 16:53, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

If they're actively being used on the website, then your mere assertion that they are "outdated" in the face of evidence to the contrary is not just meaningless -- it's disruptive. ⇒SWATJester ^{Shoot Blues, Tell VileRat!} 17:02, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

Also, I could be banned ALL across MediaWiki due to evading the ban on Dream Logos Wiki! BMarGlines (talk) 16:54, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

That's not how banning works, as that's not a WMF-controlled wiki -- but if you're already ban evading elsewhere, you absolutely will not bring that disruptive behavior over here. Tread very carefully.⇒SWATJester ^{Shoot Blues, Tell VileRat!} 17:02, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

If MediaWiki announced a universal ban, that means that it may spread across Wikimedia or Fandom BMarGlines (talk) 02:43, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

Fandom is a separate entity that has no relationship to Wikimedia. The two networks do not share accounts, thus it's not possible for there to be a "universal ban" as far as I'm aware, unless I'm misunderstanding something. ⇒SWATJester ^{Shoot Blues, Tell VileRat!} 03:36, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

They both use MediaWiki BMarGlines (talk) 03:44, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

MediaWiki is just the software. Lots of companies use MediaWiki. You can take a look at the banning policy -- there's nothing in there about a MediaWiki ban. I have no idea why you're banned on the Dream Logos Wiki (I could hazard a guess though...), but what they do there has no power to affect anything here. ⇒SWATJester ^{Shoot Blues, Tell VileRat!} 03:54, 19 May 2024 (UTC)