Talk:Lavdrim Muhaxheri
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Reliable and appropriate sources edit
(The beginning of this conversation has been pasted from GrammarFascist's talk page.)
Hi GrammarFascist, regarding your comments about my article on Lavdrim Muhaxheri, I added it as an open draft prior to submitting it, then other users have been able to edit it. I will check the references and update any missing reference. I'll have this done later this week. Thank you for your input and pardon the missing references. Regards, Kewin. — Preceding unsigned comment added by KewinLiam (talk • contribs) 19:04, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
- Hello KewinLiam, I guess this is the account you prefer to use to discuss the article rather than KewinRozz? It's really a team effort now, with a number of contributors, including Werldwayd and several other users who made minor edits like fixing links that needed disambiguation. Arjayay has been doing great work keeping a persistent
vandmaker of unconstructive contributions to the article at bay. Speaking of which, you might want to be careful to check what edits were made most recently before beginning your own edits — I'm going to have to revert some more unconstructives manually, because your intervening edits mean that I can't just use the "undo" feature. Not a big deal, but something I wanted to be sure you were aware of.
- Also, you shouldn't remove sources (like you did with the sources substantiating which countries' media had covered Muhaxheri) unless the sources added by another editor are unreliable sources, or are inappropriate for some other reason. At the very least you should give a reason for deleting a source in the edit summary, on the article talk page, or both.
- Anyway, thanks for creating the article and continuing to work on it! To be honest I found the subject unpleasant, but worked on the draft because Muhaxheri seemed like someone there should be a Wikipedia article about. But I'll keep an eye out for as long as the unconstructive IP editor seems determined to make the article worse. And if you want help with anything, do feel free to ask. —GrammarFascist contribstalk 20:33, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
Hi again GrammarFacist, KewinRozz it is. About the references that I removed from the Lavdrim Muhaxheri article, please note that the international media that published the story first, Daily Mail and Independent http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3090886/ISIS-execute-man-BAZOOKA-shocking-new-video.html, Dailymail, BusinessInsiders and so on haven't stated that Lavdrim Muhaxheri appears in the video called Bazooka or RPG video, Independent also explicitly stated that the video is uncensored http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/isis-purportedly-executes-man-with-a-bazooka-in-disturbing-propaganda-video-10267322.html. It's a good thing to point out to other editors since it's often confused by some media outlets but it's not reliable information. Regards Kewin — Preceding unsigned comment added by KewinRozz (talk • contribs) 21:12, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
- Ah, I see your point.
Regardless, because other reliable media established that the bazooka/RPG video was believed to depict Muhaxheri, I considered it worthwhile to include coverage of the video even if it didn't mention Muhaxheri by name, just to show that Muhaxheri's video was covered by media in the various countries; it's still him in the video, and apparently him who released the video online.I got confused there; all the sources in the sentence "The vast majority of publications on Muhaxheri come from Kosovo and Serbian media, but his case has also been highlighted by Arab, Australian, German, Greek, Italian, Kurdish, Spanish, Turkish, and UK media." do mention Muhaxheri by name. So I'm not clear on your objection there. If you disagree, perhaps we should take this to the article's talk page and invite other editors into the discussion there.
- Regarding the Independent article, I just don't see where you're getting "uncensored" there. I've read the article 5 or 6 times now looking for it, and even used Firefox's find-in-page function, and cannot find any mention of "censored", "uncensored" or any variation. Could you maybe tell me the exact sentence you're looking at?
- I just finished making an edit to the article, mostly to revert/correct the IP user's interpolations, but I changed some of your edits too, I think. I didn't see your message above until after I made the edits, or I would have taken that part of my edits to the talk page before making them. Ships passing in the night. Sorry if the timing caused you any distaste. —GrammarFascist contribstalk 21:37, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
- I have made some other edits to the Lavdrim Muhaxheri article, KewinRozz. Mostly I was fixing citation formatting. Note that the
title=
field should always be the exact title given in the source (I recommend copy & paste to avoid typos) rather than your personal description of what the source is or says. Also be careful when replacing one source with another that you don't leave behind stray information that isn't correct for the new source, such as publication dates.
- Thank you for adding category tags to the page.
- I restored the LiveLeak source. I believe it's okay to cite in the context of what it's cited for, even though it's an unreliable source and ought to remain marked as such; it would be good to supplement it with other, reliable sources, but it doesn't need to be replaced. The source you used to replace it (which I have left in the article for now) does not substantiate the claim that the "authenticity of the video has been questioned" in the preceding question, whereas the LiveLeak source does substantiate that.
- Actually, the other source you added does not substantiate the claim it follows either. A citation to a reference must verify the statement in the text. To verify the statement "Mike Brown climbed Mt. Everest", you cannot rely on a general reference about Mt. Everest or a reference on Mike Brown. You need to cite a source that directly supports the statement about his achievement. If you have questions about this, feel free to ask me here, or ask the volunteer team at the Teahouse. Thanks, GrammarFascist contribstalk 23:49, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
Hi GrammarFacist, the media refered to initially in "Media coverage of Muhaxheri in 2014 and beyond" is in general about the publication of Lavdrim Muhaxheri.
The Independent and the others who wrote about the RPG video do not mention Lavdrim Muhaxheri. Here's the part about the verification of the RPG video which they state hasn't been independently verified, meaning it's uncensored; "The shocking footage, which has not been independently verified, was reportedly filmed in Syria’s eastern province of Deir Ezzor on Wednesday."http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/isis-purportedly-executes-man-with-a-bazooka-in-disturbing-propaganda-video-10267322.html
Regarding the article about it, article that I changed reference to had a description of the content was an actual article so why not keep it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by KewinRozz (talk • contribs) 00:55, 7 October 2015 (UTC)
- Hello, KewinRozz. I have moved this discussion to the article's talk page as I feel this is the more appropriate forum.
- The phrase "has not been independently verified" does not mean that the video is uncensored; it simply means that the origin of the video (that is, whether it was truly made by Islamic State militants) had not been proven as of the time the article was published. Verification, censorship and editing are three different things.
- As for reasons not to keep what you call "an actual article", number one would be the fact that it is a blog post, not an article published by an organization with editorial oversight and fact-checking. It also happens to be a highly biased blog. Perhaps even more importantly, however, as I mentioned, it does not prove the statement it is cited in support of. Did you read the section of Referencing for Beginners that I linked to above? It is important for you to understand Wikipedia's policies and guidelines for citing sources in articles.
Hi GrammarFacist, the Liveleak post that you're referring to is a post that I wrote, (Liam00 is my user account on Liveleak). This is what I wrote "The video doesn't show images of the subjects face after the attack since he's faced down on the ground". As I see the citation, either the "citation needed" tag or "not in citation" tag could be used with or without the reference since it refers to the part in the article where it states that a part in the video is "cut out", which isn't stated in that Liveleak post.
I've emailed the Independent about it and they replied to my email on the 26th may 2015 with the following;"as the article states this video and the details contained within it have not been independently verified". Regarding the term "uncensored"; Not examined, expurgated, or given a rating for inclusion of improper or inappropriate material: received uncensored correspondence from a theater of military operations; sells uncensored movies and novels." Alternatively "uncensored" could be changed to "not independently verified" or "independently unverified video and content" Liveleak Read more at http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=820_1432489194#El8dOXaD3buKGO2b.99 — Preceding unsigned comment added by KewinRozz (talk • contribs) 09:08, 7 October 2015 (UTC)
- I am going to invite other editors who have edited this article to join the conversation here, in hopes that their input can help the two of us to come to agreement on what sources should be cited where in the article. @Plantdrew, R'n'B, Postcard Cathy, Arjayay, Yann, Sulfurboy, KylieTastic, Werldwayd, and Banak: if you have anything to contribute, additional views would be appreciated. —GrammarFascist contribstalk 02:06, 7 October 2015 (UTC)
Hi GrammarFacist, I saw that you mentioned me in Archive 3, not sure which post? — Preceding unsigned comment added by KewinRozz (talk • contribs) 12:52, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
Hi Zoupan, read the reference article about Camp Bondsteel and other information about NATO/ KFOR's establishment and purpose of Camp Bondsteel.talkKewinRozz (talk) 12:55, 19 January 2016 (UTC) Hi Zoupan, how can he be pseudonymed "Lavdrim Muhaxheri" when it is his name? The video is of Lavdrim.' They don't know if it's him for sure, read Parzsuck where they discuss the video [11]. KewinRozz KewinRozz (talk) 17:41, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
- Are you serious? Is this and this not the same person? Camp Bondsteel is another subject, the subject of the article being Muhaxheri, if one wants information about Camp Bondsteel and view that article's categories, they are perfectly able to do so, at that article.--Zoupan 17:45, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
- they're serious, based on differing physical appearance, as they discuss, they say that the videos 'could be' of him but they don't know when or of whom they are.KewinRozzKewinRozz (talk) 17:51, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
- The source clearly says: "was posting photos of himself on Facebook" "recent Islamic State video showed Mr Muhaxheri brandishing his Kosovo passport,". It is the same physical appearance, note the vest he is wearing in both photos, if you have low facial recognition ability. I am going to remove the speculative language your keen on using.--Zoupan 17:55, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
- I am also going to remove the Albanian-language references and replace them with newer, English-language ones. You are not a native speaker of Albanian, I presume, so I would not rely on Google translate.--Zoupan 18:00, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
- The source clearly says: "was posting photos of himself on Facebook" "recent Islamic State video showed Mr Muhaxheri brandishing his Kosovo passport,". It is the same physical appearance, note the vest he is wearing in both photos, if you have low facial recognition ability. I am going to remove the speculative language your keen on using.--Zoupan 17:55, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
- they're serious, based on differing physical appearance, as they discuss, they say that the videos 'could be' of him but they don't know when or of whom they are.KewinRozzKewinRozz (talk) 17:51, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
- about Camp Bondsteel and Kosovo war, ref 9,'Construction of the base began immediately after the controversial 78-day, NATO bombing on the former Yugoslavia during the Kosovo War. Camp Bondsteel was established to provide safety and security in the region. In February 2008, Kosovo unilaterally declared itself an independent state from Serbia. 'KewinRozzKewinRozz (talk) 18:12, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
- ............................................about Camp Bondsteel. Not about Lavdrim Muhaxheri. NATO bombing has nothing to do with the subject. It has nothing to do with the subject. It has nothing to do with the subject. Don't add those categories. Don't add those categories. Those are used in the appropriate articles. Those are used in the appropriate articles.--Zoupan 18:14, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
- about Camp Bondsteel and Kosovo war, ref 9,'Construction of the base began immediately after the controversial 78-day, NATO bombing on the former Yugoslavia during the Kosovo War. Camp Bondsteel was established to provide safety and security in the region. In February 2008, Kosovo unilaterally declared itself an independent state from Serbia. 'KewinRozzKewinRozz (talk) 18:12, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
- 'do you have a source in which he is described as a child-fighter? A 9-year old KLA fighter?', it's according to the articles,but I agree that it's confusing, but if one is to follow ref the state that he did
begin at the newly opened camp bondsteel KewinRozz (talk) 18:27, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
- No. That is not what the sources say. B92 says: "he worked for American KFOR forces in Camp Bondsteel in Kosovo, and for NATO in Afghanistan. " You added a source, which has nothing to do with Muhaxheri, and claim that he joined upon its establishment? This is serious Original Research issues.--Zoupan 18:35, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
- The ref article is attached to Camp Bondsteel KewinRozzKewinRozz (talk) 19:02, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
- 'and claim that he joined upon its establishment? ' It's stated in the biography ref article that he worked at Camp BondsteelKewinRozzKewinRozz (talk) 19:05, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
- Hi 2.150.5.144 , read the ref articles as written above, as they state that Camp Bondsteel was established in june 1999 and Muhaxheri started worked at the camp Bondsteel, ref 7 and 9 KewinRozzKewinRozz (talk) 20:03, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
- Why does Camp Bondsteel's establishment date have to mean that Muhaxheri started working there at the same time. Stop your analysis, which is terribly false. He did not participate in the Kosovo War, nor did he work in Bondsteel upon its establishment.--Zoupan 20:16, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
Hi Zoupan, the same information about the jihadi fighters is written in 'From NATO to Islamic State (IS)'KewinRozzKewinRozz (talk) 20:43, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
- Are you slow? The KFOR/NATO did not employ a nine-year-old for heaven's sake. He worked as a translator, which means that he was employed after finishing school. Stop using your own, false conclusions.--Zoupan 20:47, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
Zoupan, there's no citation needed in Early Life, it's already stated in article ref number 9 KewinRozzKewinRozz (talk) 21:06, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
Hi Zoupan, the reason why I edited it is because you wrote that he fought in Syria, read the part about the prosecution under Activity in ISIS, the prosecution claim that he didn't fight in Syria and this was published last friday. At least not what they mention, they claim that he didn'f fight with the others who are indicted and who he was with.KewinRozzKewinRozz (talk) 21:40, 20 January 2016 (UTC) Further, the Rexhepi part in 'From NATO to Islamic State (IS)' is a response to the videos so it should be directly after that part which is why I moved it there. KewinRozzKewinRozz (talk) 22:01, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
- the edits in the first part of the Activity in ISIS that you keep reverting to are factually inconsistent. The newspaper is 'Gazeta dita' and not 'Dita',see ref,. talkKewinRozz (talk) 23:11, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
- gazeta means newspaper..--Zoupan 15:48, 22 January 2016 (UTC)
As the prosecution have indicted imams and other members as responsible for the group that Muhaxheri was involved with in 2012-2013 Syria I've now edited the intro sentence and removed 'leader' in accordance with the latest articles, see ref number 18.KewinRozz KewinRozz (talk) 09:37, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
- He was a leader of jihadi fighters.--Zoupan 15:48, 22 January 2016 (UTC)
Categorization edit
- Problematic categorization discussed here.--Zoupan 13:49, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
Hi TU-nor, which subcategory is 'People of the Syrian Civil War' part of? KewinRozzKewinRozz (talk) 10:32, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
- Category:Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant members is a sub-category of Category:People of the Syrian Civil War. --T*U (talk) 11:27, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
I don't have much time to devote to it at the moment, but this article is rife with blatant original research and WP:SYNTH. Examples: "...which makes it more plausible to assume that the footage would be from Iraq but it could also be from elsewhere...", "...Thus the photo only shows parts of the head from the side and in absence of greater portions of the face, heavily covered in a substance that, by some, has been assumed to be blood." It's not Wikipedia's job to speculate. Material in Wikipedia should be directly linked to what is stated in reliable sources, period. OhNoitsJamie Talk 16:51, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
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Hi Ohnoitsjamie' The footage is unverified thus written about in the referenced articles. KewinRozzKewinRozz (talk) 17:30, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
On 6 September 2014 it became public known that a Kosova prosecutor had been granted an international warrant at the Court of Ferizaj for Muhaxheri's arrest, entailing an international warrant for Muhaxheri at Interpol, for his affiliation with terrorist organisations.[1]. The prosecution had obtained text message conversations claimed to be sent and received between the period 12 August 2015 to 5 Oktober 2013 by Lavdrim Muhaxheri and other individuals who have traveled to Syria by crossing the border between the Hatay Province in Turkey and Syria. Muhaxheri was believed to have traveled to Syria at two(2) occasions between 2012-2013. The first time was between period 2012 to May 2013, wherefrom he returned to Kosova wounded. The second time was sometime after May 2013 and Muhaxheri left Syria to Kosova on 4 October 2013, based on a text message. According to the prosecution's indictment Muhaxheri had received text messages with telephone numbers of people who either had been or were to be recruited to join IS in Syria. According to the prosecution Muhaxheri had not engaged in fighting in Syria with the other indicted individuals.'KewinRozzKewinRozz (talk) 16:09, 20 January 2016 (UTC) References
- it's article ref number 19, 'As he returned wounded...', it's there now againKewinRozzKewinRozz (talk) 15:32, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
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Kosovo War edit
KewinRozz is repeatedly restoring Category:People of the Kosovo War to the article. (Just for the record, the removal by IP2.150. yesterday was mine.) This is clearly nonsense. Even if he worked at Camp Bondsteel at some point, it does not mean that he worked there in 1999, when he was 10 years old. That KFOR employed a 10 year old boy as a translator is just absurd. Unless you can give a source that puts him on the spot in 1999, please refrain from restoring again.
@KewinRozz will also need to learn more about how Wikipedia works. I suggest that they study some Wiki guidelines before they continue their edits. Some recommendations could be WP:Consensus, WP:Edit war, WP:OR, WP:SYNTH and not least WP:Edit summary. As far as I can see, they have never ever used an edit summary. --T*U (talk) 14:19, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
TU-nor
from article tagged to camp bondsteel;
'about Camp Bondsteel and Kosovo war, ref 9,'Construction of the base began immediately after the controversial 78-day, NATO bombing on the former Yugoslavia during the Kosovo War. Camp Bondsteel was established to provide safety and security in the region. In February 2008, Kosovo unilaterally declared itself an independent state from Serbia. '
from biography - article
'Albanian mujahedin leader in Syria, Lavdrim Muhaxheri worked for American KFOR'in in Kosovo in camp "Bondsteel" in Ferizaj, have announced to his friends Express newspaper in Kacanik',from ref 9 if refs
These sources are just as valid as for the People of Iraq War. I've added these sources in the first section of the talkpage. I'll move the discussion here.KewinRozzKewinRozz (talk) 14:29, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
Questionable edits edit
I'm questioning some of the reverts to versions that are questionable to the header - subjects and some questionable edits to the ref articlesUser:KewinRozzKewinRozz (talk) 14:42, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
TU-nor, parts of your version isn't supported and what's stated in the ref articles KewinRozzKewinRozz (talk) 14:47, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
KewinRozz (talk) 17:53, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
- Just now my main concern is WP:Edit war. Please read it! And please read WP:Edit summary. --T*U (talk) 15:11, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
KewinRozz that means reaching concensus but you didn't attempt to discuss your edits with me prior to changing headlines and content. I'm open for a discussion.KewinRozzKewinRozz (talk) 17:54, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
TU-norto begin with, I'm fine with 'Activities and media reports' but not 'Joining Jihad' because the section isn't motivating 'why' he joined 'jihad', it's about him going from NATO to IS and that's why I see the 'from NATO to Islamic State (IS)' as consistent, what's the objection ?KewinRozzKewinRozz (talk) 18:10, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
SYNT & OP issues are resolved edit
I've checked OP & SYNTH, references. I added the bio that was initially published on Muhaxheri for early life. I've merged early life and background. I merged two sections into 'Government reactions'. KewinRozzKewinRozz (talk) 20:36, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
The difference from the latest synth- issue version are 5 articles that repeat what's already stated. If they are to be re-attached then they need to be referenced correctly. KewinRozzKewinRozz (talk) 16:17, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
- Please indicate which "five articles" you are talking about. The diff between the versions is useless because too much was changed in a single pass. OhNoitsJamie Talk 16:20, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
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article's in early life which aren't used in that section, 7 and 9. KewinRozzKewinRozz (talk) 16:32, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
WP:Administrators, "Administrators should not use their tools to advantage, or in a content dispute (or article) where they are a party (or significant editor), or where a significant conflict of interest is likely to exist." There are numerous of SYNTH issues for instance, ref for this is 'were affected by the persecution of ethnic Albanians conducted by the Serbian Slobodan Milošević's regime in Kosovo.' or the Clanging of the Swords 4, what part in 7 and 9 is used in Lavdrim Muhaxheri, a Kosovo Albanian Muslim, was born on 12 March 1989[6] in the town of Kačanik,[7][8][9]? KewinRozzKewinRozz (talk) 17:29, 25 January 2016 (UTC) First part: 'Lavdrim Muhaxheri, a Kosovo Albanian Muslim, was born on 12 March 1989[6] in the town of Kačanik,[7][8][9] located on the border between Kosovo and Macedonia. He was raised Muslim, living with his father and brothers in the absence of his mother. Muhaxheri grew up during the Kosovo War (1989–99) during which he and his family were affected by the persecution of ethnic Albanians conducted by the Serbian Slobodan Milošević's regime in Kosovo. He graduated from the Skanderbeg School. His education earned him a position as an English translator in the the American Kosovo Force (KFOR) camp, "Camp Bondsteel"[8] in the city of Ferizaj in southeastern Kosovo. He worked at Camp Bondsteel until 2010, when he was promoted to a North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) training camp in Afghanistan.[10]' [7][8][9] - are irrelevant here. 'Muhaxheri grew up during the Kosovo War (1989–99) during which he and his family were affected by the persecution of ethnic Albanians conducted by the Serbian Slobodan Milošević's regime in Kosovo.- ref missing/ replaced since written English translator is ref article that I added in the bio that you've now removed so this has no ref at the moment, the current articles in this section are not supportive at the moment, so the first bio should be re - added to support it. KewinRozzKewinRozz (talk) 18:12, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
Please use names of refs (publishers, dates, links) and not ref numbers which are fluctuating betweens diffs. This has been made clear to you several times. It is very hard to understand your points. All cleanup that has been made is actually problems that you yourself introduced? --Zoupan 15:11, 18 February 2016 (UTC)
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Articles often mention both medial reports from 29 July 2014 about Muhahxeri allegedy appearing on beheading footage from Syria [17] and a warrant from Court of Ferizaj and Interpol from the 6 September 2014 in the same articles but they don’t claim that the warrant is issued for the alleged beheading footage [17]; ‘The demand comes from the Basic Court of Ferizaj, which has issued a warrant for Muhaxheri after he is accused of terrorism and organized groups to go to Syria and Iraq’ [17]'. Published court records on 15 January 2016 only mention text messages as evidence for recruitment.[65] The question is about formulation of medial claims in regard to NPOV; avoid stating opinions as facts; shouldn't ‘On 29 July 2014 Muhaxheri uploaded photos to a Facebook page where he is seen beheading an unidentified young man in Syria.’(1/2) (2/3) be stated as 'According to Balkan media, on 29 July 2014 an individual posted two (2) images to a Facebook page under the pseudonym "Lavdrim Muhaxheri" ( it's questioned which published footage is of Muhaxheri [11]) that, to some extent, give the impression of a man having beheaded an unidentified young man.' or something to the effect of a neutral statement where it's mentioned who's claiming it? (1/2)https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lavdrim_Muhaxheri&diff=prev&oldid=700631550 (2/3)https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lavdrim_Muhaxheri&diff=prev&oldid=700798610
So
Wow. You really refuse to understand what everyone is explaining to you. I have no intention in continuing any discussion of your personal conclusions.--Zoupan 18:53, 18 February 2016 (UTC)
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On 29 December 2015 Balkan media claimed that Lavdrim Muhaxheri was in Ar-Rutbah in Iraq based on images and information from a post in a twitter - account. The unverified images, which are taken from a newsclip aired by arab media on an unknown date, were posted on the twitter - account on 16 July 2015. In the same article it's claimed that Lavdrim Muhaxheri has been staying in Ar-Rutbah since September 2015, based on information from unnamed sources. [61] Some media outlets claimed that the images disprove reports from 2 December 2015 about Lavdrim Muhaxheri being physically paralyzed in Syria, thus the Ar-Rutbah - images were posted on the twitter - account on 16 July 2015, a date prior to reports about Muhaxheri being paralyzed and in Syria.[62] The same images and claims about Lavdrim Muhaxheri being in Ar-Rutbah in Iraq were reported on 29 January 2015. [63] in this edithttps://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lavdrim_Muhaxheri&oldid=700637976 KewinRozzKewinRozz (talk) 22:29, 23 February 2016 (UTC)
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What do you think...?--Zoupan 23:24, 23 February 2016 (UTC)
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May I ask why concensus is needed (KewinRozz: "seek consensus again") for moving external links (Interpol profile, video interviews) previously in the article body, used erroneously as references (citations) by KewinRozz himself?--Zoupan 22:33, 23 February 2016 (UTC)
- declined,excessive Interpol article is already in references and is a primary reference, same with other refsKewinRozz —Preceding undated comment added 22:44, 23 February 2016 (UTC)
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Question? edit
Isnt he dead or not? --Marik-modder (talk) 20:56, 12 March 2016 (UTC)
- Did you read the article? There are speculations.--Zoupan 20:59, 12 March 2016 (UTC)
- He's been reported dead at least three times between 2014-2015 but then the reports have been contested by other reports with footage claiming to prove he's alive, thus experts have questioned the footage, especially when it's taken since it might be old footage, changes in physical appearance between images and emulation, the reference says that the police are investigating the footage but that there are question - marks and that it's not authenticized. [1]KewinRozzKewinRozz (talk) 09:48, 16 March 2016 (UTC)