Talk:Alan Greenberg (businessman)

Requested Edits/Updates for Alan Greenberg

Hi again Wikipedia. I work with Alan Greenberg and can’t make any of these edits due to my COI. Can someone help with these?

• In the lead, can you change “Alan Greenberg (born November 6, 1950) has served as a creator and operator of interactive and traditional media focused on the education, healthcare, and global travel service sectors. He is the President of Avenues: The World School,” to “Alan Greenberg (born November 6, 1950) has served as a creator and operator of interactive and traditional media focused on the education, healthcare, and global travel service sectors. He was the founder and president of Avenues: The World School and is the founder and CEO of immersive video/entertainment company Illuminarium.”
  • Sources are https://web.archive.org/web/20110228061317/http://www.avenues.org/school-president-alan-greenberg, https://www.illuminarium.com/https://venturebeat.com/2021/01/11/panasonic-will-help-create-immersive-entertainment-spectacles-in-illuminariums/, https://www.avinteractive.com/markets/leisure-and-hospitality/panasonic-named-official-technology-partner-illuminarium-experiences-13-01-2021/
    •  Done with change to immersive experience/video, as per the below.
• In History and Career, can you change “In 1981, Greenberg took over as publisher of Esquire magazine. Greenberg then founded Greenberg News Network, building a medical education and healthcare news organization, which was purchased by WebMD.” to “In 1981, Greenberg took over as publisher of Esquire magazine, where he led the magazine’s nationally recognized turnaround. Greenberg then founded Greenberg News Network, which created a medical education and healthcare news organization called Medcast, that was purchased by WebMD.”
  • Sources are https://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/stories/2002/05/20/focus7.html, https://www.arcamax.com/healthandspirit/seniorliving/seniorlivingfeatures/s-1521421, https://www.nytimes.com/1986/11/20/business/advertising-esquire-s-revivifier-moves-on.html
    •  Done with non-promotional rewrite as per the cites.
• Add https://cci.utk.edu/2012/09/03/greenberg-honored-with-hileman-award as a source for the CCI award
  •  Not Done without a 3P cite.
• In that same section, can you add “In 2013, Greenberg founded Avenues: The Word School, an international system of for-profit private schools, with former president of Yale University Benno C. Schmidt, Jr. As of 2021, the school has campuses in New York, Saõ Paulo, Shenzhen and also offers classes online.”
  • Sources are https://www.businessinsider.com/avenues-world-school-new-york-city-photos-tour-amenities-2019-4 and https://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/05/magazine/is-avenues-the-best-education-money-can-buy.html
    •  Done with rewrite.
• Also in that section, can you add “In 2020, Greenberg founded immersive entertainment company Illuminarium, where he serves as CEO. The first Illuminarium venue will open in Atlanta, Georgia in 2021 and will feature a virtual safari, powered by and in partnership with Panasonic.”
  • Sources are https://venturebeat.com/2021/01/11/panasonic-will-help-create-immersive-entertainment-spectacles-in-illuminariums/, https://www.avinteractive.com/markets/leisure-and-hospitality/panasonic-named-official-technology-partner-illuminarium-experiences-13-01-2021/ and https://atlantaintownpaper.com/2021/04/new-worlds-illuminarium-will-create-cinematic-immersion-on-the-beltline-this-summer/

Thank you, LeannaTruong (talk) 13:31, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

Please see my message on your talk page. GSS ^💬 16:10, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi, GSS - I left you a few messages. Feel free to respond back on your direct Talk page. LeannaTruong (talk) 17:00, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

Hey, Wikipedia. Apologies for the second follow-up as I was hoping to make one last adjustment in addition to my edit requests above.

• Instead of adding “In 2020, Greenberg founded immersive entertainment company Illuminarium, where he serves as CEO. The first Illuminarium venue will open in Atlanta, Georgia in 2021 and will feature a virtual safari, powered by and in partnership with Panasonic.” Can we update it to "In 2019, Greenberg founded immersive entertainment company Illuminarium, where he serves as CEO. The first Illuminarium venue will open in Atlanta, Georgia (where the company is based) in 2021 and will feature a virtual safari, WILD: Safari Experience. A Las Vegas, Nevada venue is planned for January 2022 and a Miami, Florida location for spring 2022."
  • Sources are https://venturebeat.com/2021/01/11/panasonic-will-help-create-immersive-entertainment-spectacles-in-illuminariums/, https://www.avinteractive.com/markets/leisure-and-hospitality/panasonic-named-official-technology-partner-illuminarium-experiences-13-01-2021/, https://atlantaintownpaper.com/2021/04/new-worlds-illuminarium-will-create-cinematic-immersion-on-the-beltline-this-summer/, https://www.ajc.com/life/radiotvtalk-blog/illuminarium-an-immersive-entertainment-experience-opening-in-atlanta-this-summer/M3KMEGIAFBA5DEXU7DRBDEKW7M/, and https://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/news/2021/04/10/atlanta-beltline-illuminarium-legends-virtual.html.
    •  Done with rewrite to rv branding as per below.

Thank you! LeannaTruong (talk) 17:00, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

Hey LeannaTruong, did you answer GSS' questions? I pinged you on my Talk page. Please list out all the clients you have submitted requests for.

Going through all these request. Going bottom to top:

• I'm not sure "immersive entertainment" is a real company type (vs their branding) but I can look at other articles on Wikipedia. Can you check too?
• I'm fine with "virtual safari," but including the brand name will violate WP:BRAND.
• That CCI source is a WP:PRIMARY source (as its their award). Let me see if I can find a Third-Party one.
• "Nationally recognized turnaround" is pretty promotional. Let me check what is discussed on the Esquire Magazine article.

Rest looks good.

--FeldBum (talk) 21:48, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

Hey FeldBum. I went ahead and answered both yours and GSS comments. If you refer to my User Page, I listed out the clients I support and the agency I represent. Thanks for your feedback! I found a few things, hopefully this helps.

• For "Immersive entertainment", I found another user Darren Lynn Bousman includes "immersive experiences" as well as the Van Gogh immersive experiences. Does that help/work?
• Let's go ahead and remove the brand name in reference to "virtual safari". I don't want to violate Wiki brand guidelines

Other points make sense! Thank you for your help. Let me know how else I can help or if you're all set.

-- LeannaTruong (talk) 15:33, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

Hey FeldBum. Checking on the above. Let me know if there's any additional information you need to finalize. LeannaTruong (talk) 21:41, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

Hey LeannaTruong, made these updates with some rewrites as per my points. Unless you have a source for CCI, I'll keep this answered. --FeldBum (talk) 03:12, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

Additional Edit Requests, Alan Greenberg

Hi again FeldBum. Thanks again for helping me earlier – you were SUPER helpful. Following up as there seems a few more small edits I need to update. Can you help me? See below.

• Throughout his page, can we change "Illuminarium" to "Illuminarium Experiences" to provide context to the full name?
• Under History and Career, need to make a few small edits.
  • Can we update the sentence of " He established Travel Holdings as a global interactive travel distribution firm, which now does business in 13 languages and in over 100 countries.[8] He served as CEO of Travel Holdings until 2008.[9]" to "He established Travel Holdings as a global interactive travel distribution firm, which did business in 13 languages and in over 100 countries.[ 8] He served as CEO of Travel Holdings until 2008.[9] Travel Holdings was sold to HotelBeds in 2017."?
    • Source: https://www.inboundreport.com/2017/02/07/hotelbeds-agrees-to-acquire-tourico/
  • After "Benno C. Schmidt", can we add more details to include Chris Whittle. Here's what we're looking for – "In 2013, Greenberg founded Avenues: The Word School, an international system of for-profit private schools, with former president of Yale University Benno C. Schmidt, Jr.[11] and education entrepreneur, Chris Whittle."
    • Sources: https://www.wsj.com/articles/chris-whittle-slashes-price-of-his-hamptons-estate-to-95-million-as-debts-loom-11612993792, https://therealdeal.com/2020/02/05/for-profit-whittle-school-inks-lease-for-tishman-speyers-the-wheeler/, https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/education/ny-whittle-school-brooklyn-20191107-tzv5hvd3xfgijcgb2vianshes4-story.html, and https://www.wsj.com/articles/for-profit-schools-entrepreneur-chris-whittle-taps-ppp-loan-of-about-2-million-11594562400
  • Update sentence with "In 2019, Greenberg founded..." to include "Illuminarium" to "Illuminarium Experiences" and add "Greenberg's partners at Illuminarium Experiences include Radical Media, Rockwell Group and Legend"
    • Sources:https://atlantaintownpaper.com/2021/04/new-worlds-illuminarium-will-create-cinematic-immersion-on-the-beltline-this-summer/, https://www.ajc.com/life/radiotvtalk-blog/illuminarium-an-immersive-entertainment-experience-opening-in-atlanta-this-summer/M3KMEGIAFBA5DEXU7DRBDEKW7M/, https://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/news/2021/04/10/atlanta-beltline-illuminarium-legends-virtual.html, https://blooloop.com/retailtainment/news/illuminarium-experiences-debut-atlanta/

Let me know if anything seems confusing. Thank you again! LeannaTruong (talk) 14:47, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

Hey LeannaTruong, taking a look at these. In the future, you need to add the Edit Request tag to your posts aside from just tagging me (even though I'm happy to help).

Is "Illuminarium Experiences" the official name? Looks like it. I'll change.

Hotel Beds line and Chris Whittle look fine. I'll probably say "education executive" since that's what his Wiki page says. Partners looks good too.

--FeldBum (talk) 18:58, 14 May 2021 (UTC)

OK, done. Ping, LeannaTruong. --FeldBum (talk) 19:18, 14 May 2021 (UTC)

Updated Edit Request

Hi again Wikipedia, Can you help me with some more edits for Alan? I work for Alan and have a COI. Time has passed and some things are out of date. I’d also like to add a section about Illuminarium to the page.

Can you help with these edits:

• Under History and Career, can you change “The first Illuminarium venue will open in Atlanta, Georgia (where the company is based) in 2021 and will feature a virtual safari” to “The first Illuminarium opened in 2021 in Atlanta, along the city’s BeltLine, with a safari show entitled “WILD: A Safari Experience .” The hour-long show features video content of an African wildlife , including cheetahs, elephants, hippos, lions, and zebras, captured on film by RadicalMedia in the animals’ natural habitats across South Africa, Kenya and Tanzania.”
  • Sources are https://reporternewspapers.net/2021/04/14/new-worlds-illuminarium-will-create-cinematic-immersion-on-the-beltline-this-summer/ and https://www.ajc.com/life/radiotvtalk-blog/illuminarium-an-immersive-entertainment-experience-opening-in-atlanta-this-summer/M3KMEGIAFBA5DEXU7DRBDEKW7M/
• After that, can you add “The Atlanta theater also features a nightlife experience, called The Bar at Illuminarium. The bar is designed by the LAB at Rockwell Group and uses 16K laser projection and audio systems to virtually “surround” guests in different digital settings, including a night market in Tokyo and a Mediterranean garden.
  • Sources are https://whatnowatlanta.com/illuminarium-announces-its-virtual-nightlife-experience/ and https://hospitalitydesign.com/news/f-b/the-bar-at-illuminarium/
• Can you change the last line to “Additional Illuminarium theaters will open in Las Vegas at AREA 15, in Miami at Mana in the Wynwood Art District, and in Chicago at Navy Pier.”
  • Sources are https://secretchicago.com/illuminarium-navy-pier/ and https://www.reviewjournal.com/entertainment/arts-culture/illuminarium-to-bring-safaris-spacewalks-to-las-vegas-2353482/
• After that, can you add “Following WILD, Illuminarium theaters will show an experience entitled SPACEWALK, featuring filmed content of the solar system, comets of the Kuiper belt, the stellar Nebula and the surface of Mars.”
  • Source is https://www.reviewjournal.com/entertainment/arts-culture/illuminarium-to-bring-safaris-spacewalks-to-las-vegas-2353482/

Thank you! LeannaTruong (talk) 22:45, 15 October 2021 (UTC)

Hi again LeannaTruong, happy to help with this page again. There's a lot here and I'm a little worried about coatracking, or adding too much to this page about a different subject. I'll start with what should definitely be here and consider a dedicated page for Illuminarium too. Something like new openings and the bar are definitely beyond the scope of a page about Greenberg. --FeldBum (talk) 16:24, 18 October 2021 (UTC)

Hi @LeannaTruong:, I'm closing this and working on a new page here --FeldBum (talk) 15:17, 3 November 2021 (UTC)

Ping @LeannaTruong:, I think the page I wrote looks good. Take a look. --FeldBum (talk) 04:13, 5 November 2021 (UTC)