Talk:1901 Boston Marathon

Did you know nomination

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The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 01:12, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

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Ronald McDonald

• ... that Ronald McDonald (pictured) was allegedly drugged with chloroform during the 1901 Boston Marathon, sabotaging his race? Source: DRUGGED IN MARATHON RACE, RUNNER SAYS HE WAS DRUGGED
  • ALT1: ... that a young man with "bad odor" entered behind the 1901 Boston Marathon leader just before the finish, fooling the thousands of spectators? Source: PEERLESS RUNNER. Continued from the First Page

Mounted police clearing the way at the 1901 Boston Marathon

• • ALT2: ... that hundreds of bicyclists, automobiles, motor carriages, equipages, equestrians and children flooded the 1901 Boston Marathon streets, forcing runners to detour? Source: PEERLESS RUNNER. Continued from the First Page
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  • Comment: The third hook may be used with this drawing of the race: File:1901 Boston Marathon graphic (mounted police clearing the way through crowd).jpg. Open to any improvements, thanks!

Created by Habst (talk).

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Habst (talk) 20:44, 17 April 2024 (UTC).

• I'll review this. BeanieFan11 (talk) 02:32, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
Freely licensed: Used in article: Clear at 100px:

QPQ: None required.

Overall: Nice work @Habst:. The only issue is that there needs to be a citation at the end of the following paragraph: As the race advanced through Framingham and Natick, Hughson had built up a lead but was still closely tailed by Caffrey. 45 minutes in, Hughson passed the Natick town hall about 100 yards (91 m) ahead of Caffrey. McDonald at this point was 75 yards (69 m) behind Caffrey, and Sammy Mellor and Davis were running in fourth and fifth 1⁄3 mile (0.54 km) behind McDonald. (Every paragraph needs to have a citation for DYK). BeanieFan11 (talk) 02:43, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

@BeanieFan11,  Done the citation, thank you. --Habst (talk) 12:23, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Good to go, BeanieFan11 (talk) 15:40, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Habst ALT1 is ineligible, as the source does not say that the young man had "bad odor", but rather that he "would have been in bad odor [i.e. in a pickle] had the officials unearthed him". You'll want to correct the article too. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 19:20, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

@AirshipJungleman29, thank you so much for the info, I have struck ALT1 and corrected the article. Thanks for teaching me about in bad odor as well. --Habst (talk) 19:30, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

Discrepancy?

Cool article ~ fascinating. A possible discrepancy, though, that i can't correct because i'm not sure of the facts: Is there one man Caffrey, or are there two? He is called (and wlinked) John P. Caffrey in the lead, then a John J. Caffrey takes an early lead, then Caffrey runs all through, until a quote from the Buffalo Courier calls him J. J. Caffrey and the picture from the Boston Globe by that quote calls him John J. Caffrey again. If he's one man, the initials need to be cleared up, if there were two of them that needs to be clearer. Happy days, ~ Lindsay^Hello 05:25, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

@LindsayH, thanks for pointing this out. All those names should refer to one person. Based on the article Jack Caffery (runner), it appears his name is John Peter Caffery but he went by Jack Caffrey. That would make sense with all of the listed names except for "J. J. Caffery", which I suspect is a mistake because the Buffalo Courier spelled his surname incorrectly as well. His last name seems to be spelled variously "Caffrey" and "Caffery".

I've changed all names to refer to "Jack Caffery", his Wikipedia name, in the mean time. --Habst (talk) 12:57, 20 May 2024 (UTC)