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New articles

Well...this place is pretty dead. lol. I just finished a new article, Liangzhou Rebellion! So if any of you are interested about what Han Sui, Ma Teng, Dong Zhuo, and Sun Jian were doing before their more famous endeavours or Chinese interactions with barbarians during the end of Han, you might wanna check this out. And while you're done reading, some feedback would be appreciated.

Also, in order to revive this place, if any of you have written anything new (or is planning to write new articles) about the Three Kingdoms period, don't be afraid to post it here so we can discuss and make writing articles more satisfying! _dk (talk) 07:07, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

• A long time ago I thought about Featured Topic... it's a shame this topic has so many articles... too much work for FT... probably... • Ling.Nut 09:36, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
  • We can follow the sagely example of User:PericlesofAthens and create an umbrella of articles about the history, economy, culture, and science during the Three Kingdoms period! But yes...that would be too much work considering that we're kinda having a shortage of editors here, heh. And I'll soon be without access to a university library, so that'd be difficult. By the way, how's it going Ling? Sure haven't interacted with you for the longest time. _dk (talk) 12:39, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

Well, I also destubbified Battle of Yangcheng, though it's still a short article. _dk (talk) 12:47, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

Sima Yi's Liaodong campaign is up, take a look. _dk (talk) 13:25, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

Hello friends. I am not nearly as active here on WP as I used to be, but I see you guys have tried to keep the discussions on-going here. Yes, User:PericlesofAthens is an awesome example to follow. He is probably the best Chinese history editor here on English WP. Featured Topic is a very lofty goal. I suggest you first pursue bringing Three Kingdoms itself up to FA status. Another goal to try to pursue is Wikipedia:Good topics. Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 13:55, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

Oh yeah, I wrote Goguryeo–Wei Wars a few weeks back. I'm probably not gonna write any more new articles for a while. _dk (talk) 13:09, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

Battle to the Southwest of Xiakou

FYI, Battle to the Southwest of Xiakou has been prodded for deletion by someone.

70.29.208.247 (talk) 12:39, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

That someone is me, fyi. I believe my reasoning is legit but it is, of course, open for discussion. _dk (talk) 00:10, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

Portal:Three Kingdoms

Portal:Three Kingdoms (edit | [[Talk:Portal:Three Kingdoms|talk]] | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) / Portal:Three Kingdoms (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) currently redirects to a card game. Perhaps it should be turned into a real Three Kingdoms article? 70.29.208.247 (talk) 20:39, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

What do you think the article should be like? I don't think there is the manpower to maintain a portal. _dk (talk) 21:04, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

Well... like what most portals have, a summary of the topic, at the top, some tidbits underneath, a featured article, a featured picture, some in the news section stuff (archaeological, and in popular culture news), some cultural and popcultural DYKs. A popculture section (like the Red Cliffs film, the Japanese obsession with the period, an overview of ROTK, a gallery of related photos, two rows, top row consisting of historical and archaeological, second row being cultural and popcultural. 70.29.208.247 (talk) 22:06, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

Maybe like Portal:New France ? 70.29.208.247 (talk) 22:08, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

That's really interesting! Yeah, that might be a good idea. _dk (talk) 07:31, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

Now all we need do is create a starting point. I've wondered at WP:AFC how to do that... 70.29.208.247 (talk) 06:52, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

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Moving Fei Yi to Bi Yi

EkmanLi (talk · contribs) has moved Fei Yi to Bi Yi, asserting that the pronunciation is "Bi." Frankly, I've never heard of such a thing, although I did check the dictionary and "Bi" is a potential pronunciation for the character 費. However, I still find it an incredible assertion given that I have never heard of a single person who has the name 費 who pronounced it Bi rather than Fei. (For example, Fei Yu-ching.) Assuming that EkmanLi was using the Cantonese (which he seemed to be asserting as well), under WP:NC-ZH, pinyin (therefore, implicitly, Mandarin) should be used. I'd like some opinion on whether to 1) revert and 2) treat EkmanLi's edits as vandalism. --Nlu (talk) 15:06, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

In light of what I just saw EkmanLi wrote on Talk:Fei Yi, I am going to assume good faith and not treat it as vandalism, but in light of his own admission there that he didn't know how it's pronounced in Mandarin, I am going to move it back. --Nlu (talk) 15:12, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

It is not vandalism, and EkmanLi has been a good contributor to many of our articles I find it very heavy-handed and insensitive to treat him as vandal after one bold page move. That said, I know myself that Bi is an ancient reading of 費 which did not get passed down into modern times (so we don't call the singer Bi Yuqing). The dilemma, to me, only seems to be whether to use an ancient reading or to use a modern reading (much like the debate between using Li Bo or Li Bai). Perhaps we should see what the scholars and translators make of this. _dk (talk) 21:32, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

Correct, dk, about the tone. I apologize here (and have already apologized elsewhere). --Nlu (talk) 02:18, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

• Glad we sorted that out. A jigger of Kaoliang all around! Gan bei! • Ling.Nut (talk) 02:24, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

and another round for the return of Ling.Nut! cheers! _dk (talk) 03:14, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

Article expansion

I noticed there's a "Article requests box", but I believe an "Expansion requests" would be more welcomed. As there is no such thing as of now, can I request an expansion on a few articles here?----EkmanLi (talk) 20:18, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

Yes, please do. _dk (talk) 22:14, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

Cool, I would like to c Zhang Zhao be expanded.----EkmanLi (talk) 08:09, 2 April 2011 (UTC)