Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Montreal/Archive 1

Will be it be included under WikiProject Canada?

This is a great idea, but I have one question. I don't know the exact WP terminology, but right now, WikiProject Quebec is included under WikiProject Canada on Talk pages, all in a nice neat box, while WikiProject Montreal templates on Talk pages exist separately. It looks disorganized. See Talk:Victoria Bridge (Montreal) for example: it is tagged as being part of WikiProject Canada, Canada Roads WikiProject, WikiProject Quebec, all in one box, while the new WikiProject Montreal is separate and above. In time, will this be rectified? Shawn in Montreal (talk) 21:59, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Sure thing, I'll have to figure out how to harmonize it into the WikiProject Canada template. Only reason I made it separate was because the Toronto, Ottawa, etc WikiProjects all had separate templates. Here's a question: Do you think that articles should be both part of WikiProject Quebec/Canada and WikiProject Montreal? MTLskyline (talk) 01:22, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

You'd know better than me. I just noticed that WikiQuebec was part of WikiCanada, so I just assumed the same logic should apply. But if other Canadian cities do it differently... there must be a good reason? Shawn in Montreal (talk) 01:56, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

The process of integrating projects into the WPCANADA templates is ongoing; not everything has necessarily been done yet. It would probably be best to raise this at WP:CWNB to clarify whether city projects should be integrated or kept separate. Generally, though, I would think most articles don't need to simultaneously be flagged as both WikiProject Quebec and WikiProject Montreal; the Montreal one should suffice. Bearcat (talk) 22:16, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

There is a problem with WP:Canada, it has a unified importance scale, which means something important in Montreal will be given at best a "mid" rating most of the time, and probably a "low" rating. 70.51.10.153 (talk) 09:29, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Neighbourhoods and streets

I also have a question about some of the neighbourhoods and streets in the To do list (as well as some of the redlinks to proposed articles, currently in the Montreal neighbourhoods template). WP:CANSTYLE states that articles on neighbourhoods still have to satisfy basic notability guidelinesl I'm not sure all of these would. Moreover, what is the policy on city streets? I can't find it. But I wonder whether all of the streets on this list are notable. thanks, Shawn in Montreal (talk) 23:28, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

With regards to the neighbourhoods, I put all the neighbourhoods I can think of in Montreal on that list. Some are notable (Monkland Village, Cote-Saint-Paul and Saraguay are all well known and mentioned occaisionally in the press). Some of the proposals are just for more specific parts of neighbourhoods (Rosemont and La Petite-Patrie for instance. I'm not that familiar with that part of Montreal, but I believe that it is two neighbourhoods joined together to form the borough?) Financial District/Red Light District are not necessary (although there is a Red Light District article on the French wiki). Bois-Franc and Longue-Pointe I have seen written on old maps, but they may not even exist as neighbourhoods today (again not extremely familiar with those parts of town)

As for the streets, some are defintely more notable than others. To determine what streets to include on the list, I looked at Google Maps and chose the streets in yellow (which are usually the major ones). Some are important streets in Montreal (Jean-Talon, Pie-IX, Papineau, Ontario), while others are merely important in their neighbourhood. Whichever streets (or neighbourhoods for that matter) you feel are unnecessary (I'm from the South Shore, so I am not too familiar with a lot of the streets on the list), just remove them. Cheers.MTLskyline (talk) 04:32, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

missing articles`

• Montreal Canadian Grand Prix festival
  • as largest fest in Montreal, largest in Canada, largest single tourist event in Canada, event that made the National Assembly pass a special law so that businesses could open on St.Jean, etc...
  • start of Montreal festival season

• Sir George Williams University/Sir George Williams College
  • one of the founding institutions of Concordia

• Old St.Lawrence Canal
  • was in use before the St.Lawrence Seaway was built, is in Vaudreuil-Soulanges

• old Quebec Provincial Highway 4
• old Quebec Provincial Highway 2

• Montreal current events page

• Metropolitan BLVD highway project, including its northern track along what is now Henri-Bourassa blvd.

• Bois-Franc Field, WWI airfield

• Wolverine anti-motard squad

• Big Orange, Montreal landmark, last roller-waitress and last drive-in restaurant of Montreal

• Ruby Foo's, Montreal landmark, used to have a giant golden buddha, remarked by many non-Chinese Montrealers as having the best Chinese food.

• Petite train du nord

• old commuter train to the east island

• Fairmount Bagel

• St. Viateur Bagel

• Decarie Hotdog

• Imperial Cinema

• the former Paramount cinema, which had the top ticket record in North America a few years ago

70.55.84.101 (talk) 06:22, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

• Fete des gourmands/mondial gourmand

70.55.89.214 (talk) 22:14, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

C-class articles

Apparently there is a new quality class, "C" used by assessment 1.0 project. 70.55.84.66 (talk) 11:49, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Perhaps this should also add a "importance=minimal" classment also? 70.55.84.66 (talk) 11:49, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Category:Food in Montreal

Category:Food in Montreal has been nominated for renaming. 70.55.85.116 (talk) 05:44, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Category:Quebec communities with important anglophone populations

Category:Quebec communities with important anglophone populations has been sent to WP:CFD 70.55.84.212 (talk) 05:24, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

NAPA Auto Parts 200

Articles should be created for the 2007 NAPA Auto Parts 200 and 2008 NAPA Auto Parts 200 70.51.11.219 (talk) 12:51, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Labatt Park (Montreal)

Labatt Park (Montreal) has been nominated for deletion at WP:AFD. 70.55.89.214 (talk) 07:38, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

Projet:Montréal

There should be a WikiProject in french for Montreal... fr:Projet:Montréal and a portal fr:Portail:Montréal 70.51.9.124 (talk) 09:15, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

The French-language portal of Montréal was created. You are all invited to contribute to it. :-) --Mathieugp (talk) 15:28, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

Request for page facts verification.

• The Gazette (Montreal)

Can anybody please do a fact check on the History section of The Gazette (Montreal) article. I somehow doubt that Benjamin Franklin founded The Gazette. But I don't have the knowledge or reference material handy. This (possibly) bad info (vandalism?) has been there for almost a month now.--Tzeentch73 (talk) 00:32, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

IT appears to be POV pushing. The Official Website makes no mention of Ben Franklin [1] 70.51.10.188 (talk) 08:47, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

The founder of La Gazette was Fleury Mesplet who was a printer/typographer working for the Continental Congress in Philadelphia. He is the one who printed the three Letters to the inhabitants of Canada. Mesplet landed in Montreal on May 6, 1776, as part of a diplomatic delegation sent by the Congress. This delegation included Benjamin Franklin, who arrived in Montreal a few days before Mesplet. When the troops of the Congress left Quebec's territory for good, Mesplet decided to stay. He was imprisoned by Carleton, but soon released. He founded his newspaper as La Gazette du commerce et littéraire, pour la ville et district de Montréal in June 3, 1778. This is the first newspaper of Montreal, and the first French-language one in Quebec. The only one existing at the time was La Gazette de Québec/The Quebec Gazette, in Quebec City, which was bilingual and censored by the British government. Everything published in it had to go through the Lieutenant-Governor. -- Mathieugp (talk) 15:44, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

La Presse

I've initiated a move request to move La Presse (Canada) to La Presse, since it's the most prominent newspaper of that name. 70.51.10.188 (talk) 09:25, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Vimont

I've initiated a move request to move Vimont, Quebec to Vimont and Vimont to Vimont, France, since the one in Canada is more prominent. 70.51.10.188 (talk) 09:25, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Two Mountains

I've requested a pagemove. Two Mountains → Two Mountains (electoral district), since English Montrealers refer to the lake, or the town, but not a long ago federal riding, by this name. 70.55.200.131 (talk) 11:51, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

Siege of Fort St. Jean → Siege of Fort St. Johns

Siege of Fort St. Jean → Siege of Fort St. Johns has come up on WP:RM. 76.66.200.131 (talk) 13:30, 2 December 2008 (UTC)