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This page is an Archive of the discussions from WikiProject Jewish history talk page (Discussion page). (January 2009 - December 2009) - Please Do not edit!

Rumbula massacre

I have rewritten the Rumbula massacre page from not much to (I hope) a lot more. I am thinking of working up a series of articles on the Shoah in Latvia, as there is not much systemic coverage of this. Any thoughts or criticisms welcome, as I am no expert.Mtsmallwood (talk) 21:41, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Template:Jewish Communities depopulated by the Arab world

Also maybe Template:Jewish Communities depopulated in history. 00:13, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Despite centuries of violence and racism, there seems to be no Jewish template equivalent to the Palestinian Arab villages depopulated template. I've seen some type of a list on historical accounts and certainly we have the Jewish exodus article as a stand alone; But for neutrality's sake, there is room to add some historical information about the wiping of of 3000 year old communities in Europe and in Arab countries as well as the original Jewish diaspora into an easy to navigate template.
Thoughts/Suggestions? Jaakobou^{Chalk Talk} 00:11, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Efraim Zuroff article needs attention

Hello, I recently came across the Efraim Zuroff article and noticed that it needs some attention, particularly additional sources as it may violate the BLP policy in its current state. I did some minor cleanup of punctuation and style but do not know enough about the man to deal with the content. Thanks, momoricks (make my day) 06:34, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Holocaust Museum of Buenos Aires

- crossposted to WikiProject Argentina -

I wanted to link some text in Adolf Eichmann: "The passport has been handed to the Argentina Holocaust Museum in Buenos Aires."
We apparently don't have an article on this museum.
Holocaust memorials lists Museo del Holocausto de Buenos Aires (Holocaust Memorial Museum, Buenos Aires, Argentina), and links it to the external official site of the museum at http://www.fmh.org.ar/ -- we apparently don't have an article at Museo del Holocausto or Museo del Holocausto de Buenos Aires. This museum is not listed at Holocaust museum, which possibly would be more correct than Holocaust memorials.
Other possible titles/redirects: Argentina Holocaust Museum, Holocaust Museum of Buenos Aires.
I will not be working on this myself.
-- 201.37.230.43 (talk) 01:39, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Jewish terrorism -> Neo-Zionist political violence ?

There has been long discussion and disputes around the article Jewish terrorism. According to the different points of views in different talk pages :

• "Jewish" dimension should only be religious and not ethnical, and therefore Jewish is not clear
• the "zionist" dimension in the causes of Jewish terrorism should be emphasized
• "terrorism" still remains a wp:words to avoid and political violence is more neutral.

The article Neo-Zionism explains the origin of these wording used by different scholars working in the field of sociology and study of nationalism...
What would you think about the move from Jewish terrorism to Neo-Zionist political violence ? Ceedjee (talk) 10:50, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Page - Jewish History

hi

I would just like to bring it to your attention that the page has been vandalised with several false headers and such.

I also started to adds some citation needed tags and then noticed some of the text is rather strangely worded, such as the "Jewish nation" that I changed to "Jewish people"

You might need to give the article a good looking over - I do not wish to start editing it as it is not my field of expertise but I would say that its B class is somewhat dubious as the article stands now.

Thanks--Chaosdruid (talk) 15:37, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

AFD: Holocaust in Russia

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Holocaust in Russia. Please comment/improve. NVO (talk) 18:56, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

Coordinators' working group

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Kristallnacht

I have recently been working on the article Kristallnacht, after noticing that the content regarding the actual events of November 9 wasn't included. I restored that, and have since taken a deeper look into the article. I think it is quite a good article (as well as being a Good Article), but it could be further improved. Ideally, I'd like to see it brought to Featured status. I've started to take a run at improving it. I have begun by revising the lede to remove some redundancies and try to provide a better capsule overview. I have also merged the old "Background" and "Context" sections and tried to tighten them up as well. I will move on to the rest of the article soon, but before I do so I'd like to get some idea of whether or not my changes to date are well-received and appropriate. Please let me know what you think. - Eron^Talk 23:44, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

content and style look very good to me. Visually, the Holocaust infobox tends to crowd the page a lot however, and doesn't make up for this by delivering closely related links or an image of the event in question. I have seen this in other articles, and doesn't give a lot of links to the specific article in question. I have proposed a more focused infobox for particular Holocaust events, maybe something like this might be of interest.Mtsmallwood (talk) 18:40, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Thank you. I agree re the Infobox; it is a bit of a bear to work around. I like your proposal; I'll test it out on my sandbox page for my next draft. - Eron^Talk 20:19, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Proposed Infobox: Holocaust Event

I have a proposed infobox over at the proposed infobox page and request any and all comment/critcism/improvements folks may have. This sample deals with Rumbula massacre, and is based on {{Historical Event}} with additional fields. Of course, there is a good general template {{The Holocaust)) but I find it doesn't help to convey rapid information about a particular incident, or allow quick navigation to related topics.Mtsmallwood (talk) 18:31, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

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Article Hillel the Elder, copyright concerns

Hi. A question has been raised about the copyright status of the article Hillel the Elder. I have blanked the article according to process during the investigation period. I've requested that the contributor, who created the article in 2003, clarify the matter if he is able, but he has not edited Wikipedia in some weeks. (I'll email him also.) Since this article is ranked "top" importance by your project, I thought perhaps that some contributors here might consider helping to determine the copyright status of the article. If the text at the tagged site predates the article on Wikipedia, the Wikipedia article will need to be rewritten, unless we can obtain permission or unless we can verify that perhaps both articles are drawn from a public domain or freely licensed source. The Encyclopedia suggests a date of 2002, but the earliest archive I have been able to locate is 2004. Even knowing if this site is reputable or has a history of infringement could be helpful. Since I am also requesting feedback at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Judaism, please make any notes about the matter at the talk page of the article. Any input would be much appreciated. We don't want to unnecessarily lose any text that is free to use; we also don't want to use any text that isn't. Thanks. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 14:18, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Now that I've finished the rest of the CP listings for the day, I've investigated this further. It seems in spite of the copyright notice, the material here actually is PD, given the front page disclaimer and the biographies of the putative authors: Solomon Schechter and Wilhelm Bacher. Unless I'm wrong about that, no feedback is necessary. :) I'll mark the matter resolved at CP and note the PD text at the article. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 14:40, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

New Navbox - The Holocaust

With guidance from Mtsmallwood, I've implemented a new version of the navbox for The Holocaust. This version is formatted for use at the end of an article rather than as a sidebar and may be useful on pages where the sidebar navbox isn't suitable. The new template is at Template:The Holocaust (end). I have made no changes to the links, just the formatting. - Eron^Talk 21:05, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Serge and Beate Klarsfeld

Hi folks. Can I just ask some of you to keep an eye on this article? The Klarsfeld's are Nazi Hunters and I have just had to edit away some unpleasant POV. I suspect it may return. Setwisohi (talk) 23:28, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

Flavius Josephus

Hi. Can I ask some opinion about a reliable source that I am submitting to Josephus article? The discussion is here: WikiProject Judaism. I see individuals figthing to shut the voice of famous Jewish authors in the past, just because they dont like their material. Absurd. If you love Jewish History, this is the best chance to contribute. Thanks. --Chris Cohen (talk) 03:06, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

COPIED FROM WIKEPEDIA JUDAISM PROJECT -

Rabies (sic) on Josephus

Pretty sure this [1] is either horseshit, or some type of not notable trivia, but I would not mind someone knowledgeable on late medieval Jewish sources to comment.--Scott Mac (Doc) 21:13, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

That edit is the work of Chriscohen (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log), a WP:SPA whose only contributions to Wikipedia have been to try to promote his non-notable, unverifiable, original research about his family tree. (Did I mention lack of reliable sources?). Other editors, please keep an eye on this article and his other contributions. --Steven J. Anderson (talk) 22:30, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, I've reverted him again.--Scott Mac (Doc) 00:00, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Debate now on the talk page over his sources. I'm out of my depth here. Some informed comment would be appreciated.--Scott Mac (Doc) 01:21, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

See my latest post on Talk:Josephus. All of Chris's edits should be reviewed for compliance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. --Steven J. Anderson (talk) 03:06, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Disagree:::: Here we are seeing a dejectedly example of some individuals trying desperately to eradicate the voice and the hard work of (6) most renowned rabbis, authors, and writers of our times, just because they don’t like me or the information that most scholars know and support and I am bringing to the article. This is not about me. And one unfortunate individual is saying that I am here talking about myself or about my family? This is not true. Yes, I tried over one year ago to contribute by adding similar information, and I told them that I am Cohen and my last name is Cohen Pereira (not PERAHIA), from Perea (Holy Land), the same place where the Hasmonean dwelt. I was never trying to add material about me or my family. If this was what once appeared, then I am sorry. This was caused by a mistake. If you want, I can invite plenty rabies to confirm the veracity of all of the (6) different reliable sources that I will present here. I am sorry but this is not okay for the Jewish History, Literature and for the Jewish and non-Jewish people. No one have the right to shut the voice of the Jewish authors in the past. We cannot silent their voices and works, even if we don’t agree with their published content. They had rabies that approved the content of their material, also they had the Jewish Community that agree with the content and supported their publications. In Jewish community, no one can act alone. They were not playing games with the Jewish Community because they were a part of it. These authors mentioned here were very talent and blessed by the Jewish Community. I am not here trying to add stuffs in the Josephus article out of my own mind and claim, but giving the Wikipedia’s readers a chance to obtain vital and precisely information from Major Jewish Literature. We cannot kill the past of the Jewish people or try to hide it under any circumstance. This is not okay at all. That’s not my fault if the level of knowledge and intellectual capacity of these certain individuals are not enough to judge things correctly, specially about Jewish Literature that is vast, solid and focused in different periods and epochs.

Please, don’t try to kill the voice of the most credible Jewish historians and authors of our times, like Mr. David Conforte. His published material is considerate the guideline used by all rabies and scholars in the world. Why we cannot allow Wikipedia’s readers to read David Conforte`s published contente? It is because it is false, degenerative, or a sham? One must be nuts to silent the Jewish authors, historians, and publishers.

1)David Conforte. David Conforte’s materpiece book “Kore ha‑Dorot” ( Venice: Meir da Zara at the Giovanni Vendramin Press, 1746) indicates on page 72 (36b) that there is a connection between Josefus Flavius and the Perahia family. Why we cannot let Wikipedia’s readers read David Conforte’s material? If he says, writes and states in his book that the Hacohen Perahia family have the connection to Josephus, why do you think you have the right to silent him? (And at least 5 others different authors as well?)

Again this is not me here saying anything about me or my family, but struggling for the right to add credible material from at least six different reliable sources that contains vital information for Wikipedia’s readers. We cannot silent David Conforte`s voice and invalidate his work. His material is a reliable source for sure. One must be nuts to reject and to refute it.

2)Michael Molho. Another great and legendary Jewish historian and author of more than 10 books published in Jewish Literature. Molho has an essay on his book indicating that the Perahia family was first among the priests, descendants of Flavius Josephus. One of these family members, the famous poet Samuel Hacohen Perahia, also participated in his other books contributing with poems. Essai d’une Monographie sur la Famille Pérahia à Thessalonique French. Salonika, 1938. PS: Reprinted occurred only 46 years ago.

HERE IS WHAT IS EXACTLY IN MOLHO'S BOOK: ( I pretend to use ^(rewriting)part of it, on Josephus article, why not? Do you have objections?)

I DEDICATE THIS MODEST ESSAY To JUDAH HAYYIM PERAHIA WHO RECOGNIZES THE GLORY

OF HIS NOBLE ANCESTRY. For four consecutive centuries, the Perahyah family kept Salonika in center stage, and they contributed in every aspect of economic, scientific, philosophical, literary, administrative and philanthropic activities.There were few examples, in the history of a nation, of such continued prestigious contributions, throughout the ages. Perahyah I, the Italian, had a famous ancestry. A closely guarded tradition traces his ancestry to the ancient tribe of the priests of the Temple. One of the most famous Perahyah sons, the poet Samuel, wrote in an essay at the end of the first volume by Solomon ha-Cohen latteringly known as the Mouarchah – that the family was first among the priests. That he belonged to this tribe is irrefutable as evidenced by his epitaph. The tradition also links him to Josephus Flavius, the chronicler of Masada, ally of the Romans and famous historian. We know that this famous person, whose fame was somewhat tarnished as a result of the events in which he participated, belonged to a sacerdotal family and that he made a significant impact on Jewish and world history. His books War of the Jews, The Antiquities of the Jews, The Life of Flavius Josephus, an Autobiography and Josephus Flavius Against Apion record Jewish history from its earliest origins through the end of the first century of the Christian era::::

- Michael Molho, author of more than 10 books that is part of the Major Jewish Literature

“In La Famille Pérahia, Molho, citing also the work of David Conforte's book, Kore ha-Dorot wrote that tradition links Samuel Hacohen Perahia to Josephus Flavius, the chronicler of Massada, ally of the Romans and famous historian. Molho goes on to write that this famous person, whose fame was somewhat tarnished as a result of the events in which he participated, belonged to a sacerdotal family and that he made a significant impact on Jewish and world history. His books The Wars of the Jews, The Antiquities of the Jews, The Life of Flavius Josephus, an Autobiography and Josephus Flavius Against Apion record Jewish history from its earliest origins through the end of the first century of the Christian era. Molho leaves no doubt that the Perahias are descendants of the famous general and historian who was born in Jerusalem in the year 37 CE and who died in Rome in the year 100 CE.”

Again this is not me here saying anything about me, but struggling for the right to add credible material from at least four different sources that contains vital information for Wikipedia’s readers. We cannot silent Michael Molho`s voice and invalidate his work. This is not fair and a correct thing to do, just because we don’t agree with the content. Please, don’t try to kill the voice of the most credible Jewish historians and authors of our times, like Mr. Michal Molho. His published material is considerate the guideline used by all rabies and scholars in the world. Why we cannot allow Wikipedia’s readers to read Michal Molho`s published content? One must be nuts to silent the Jewish authors, historians, and publishers.

And Michal Molho did not write this essay by himself. Here is what he wrote on the third page of the same book:

Our gratitude also goes to our distinguished friend, Mr. Joseph Nehama (see below), the historian of Salonika and of its Jewish community, who reviewed and helped finalize the French language draft of this study.( Essai d’une Monographie sur la Famille Pérahia à Thessalonique French. Salonika, 1938) - Michael Molho:::::

http://www.jornalgoyaz.com.br/pdf/LaFamillePerahia_MichaelMolho.pdf —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chriscohen (talk • contribs) 02:30, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Again this is not me here saying anything about me, but struggling for the right to add credible material from at least four different sources that contains vital information for Wikipedia’s readers. We cannot silent Michael Molho`s voice and invalidate his work. This is not fair and a correct thing to do, just because we don’t agree with the content. Did we live in that time to dispute with the family and rabies their long establish claim?

3)Judah Gedaliah. Judah Gedaliah printed in 1521 the book “She'erit Yosef” in Salonika. There were two printings of She'erit Yosef in Salonika. The first was printed by Judah Gedaliah in 1521.

4) The second by Joseph ben Isaac Jabez in 1568. There are plenty references about the claim of Hacohen Perahia family and their histories and background. Please, put on your mind once for all that this family was very well know and traditional and their claim was notorious and accepted by the most prominent rabies of our times, and this information is available for people who read Jewish Literature. If you cannot read Hebrew, than see Michael Molho`s comment about this well know family and their claim, participations and histories on “She'erit Yosef” book.

5) Joseph Nehama. The first 5 volumes of the monumental work "Histoire des Israelites de Salonique" by Joseph Nehama (1880-1971) were published between 1935 and 1939, so only 70 years ago. His book also contains the information about the family, their claim, their history and their contributions to the Jewish Community in Salonika. See here a PDF file and locate the names of the Hacohen Perahia family, and the respective indication of the correct volume and pages that contains their histories, claim, and etc… See for yourself - http://www.sephardicstudies.org/pdf/NEHAMA-MASTER-INDEX.pdf

6) Isaac Samuel Emmanuel . Another illustrious author that wrote about dozens of Jewish families that lived in the XV Century including the Hacohen Perahia claim and histories. He wrote about Hacohen Perahia family, their claim, history and contribution to the Jewish Community in Salonika. This book is called “The Precious Stones of the Jews in Salonica” printed by in Israel by the Ben-Zvi Institute in 1963, only 46 years ago. This book also contains information about the Hacohen Perahia family, their claim, history and contribution for the Jewish Community in Salonika.

This is not a Original Research. We cannot silent the work of Major Jewish Literature just because certain individuals don’t link the content of this material.

If you want to see this same information, please visit the site the Genealogy in Salonika called Les Fleurs de Orient – The Genealogy of Jewish families that lived in Salonika, partner of the Jewish Museum of Thessaloniki. There you can read the well know and extensive claim published by the family.

http://www.farhi.org/genealogy/getperson.php?personID=I3608&tree=Hassid

“In La Famille Pérahia, Molho, citing David Conforte's book, Kore ha-Dorot wrote, that tradition links Samuel to Josephus Flavius, the chronicler of Massada, ally of the Romans and famous historian. Molho goes on to write that this famous person, whose fame was somewhat tarnished as a result of the events in which he participated, belonged to a sacerdotal family and that he made a significant impact on Jewish and world history. His books The Wars of the Jews, The Antiquities of the Jews, The Life of Flavius Josephus, an Autobiography and Josephus Flavius Against Apion record Jewish history from its earliest origins through the end of the first century of the Christian era. Molho leaves no doubt that the Perahias are descendants of the famous general and historian who was born in Jerusalem in the year 37 CE and who died in Rome in the year 100 CE.”

We cannot silent the work of Major Jewish Literature, authors, rabies, historians, and publishers, just because certain individuals don’t link the content of the material that is hurting their own concepts and theories. There are 6 different reliable sources stating that HaCohen Perahia is recognized descendants of Flavius Josephus. We cannot ignore the tradition of the Jewish people, the work of the Jewish authors who spend most of their lives writing and fighting for future generations.

By the way, if you think this family never existed, please, spend only 60 seconds and read and see for yourself this link that contains many pictures of their Tombstones and also epitaphs about this well know, credible and important Jewish family.

See here http://www.cohen.org.br/images/stories/epitaphs_ofthefamily.png

Here we wretchedly see two or three desolately individuals trying to silent 6 different Jewish authors that worked very hard, and for a purpose their material survived and is now available for anyone who are really interesting in Jewish History and Literature and willing to give up their own concepts and theories. I think this whole situation is an absurd.

You will not, cannot, and don’t have the right to shut up the voice of our greatest Jewish authors, historians, rabies and publishers, ok? Who do you think you are? If you don’t agree with their published material that`s okay, but go home, take a shower and drink a Ice Tea and never try to silent their voices again, never try to kill their work and to erase a important chapter of the Jewish History. --Chris Cohen (talk) 02:10, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

• No one is killing anyone's work. However, consensus determines what does and does not get included in wikipedia. Consensus is clearly against you.--Scott Mac (Doc) 02:20, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Scott Mac. You and Steven J. Anderson are not against me, but against these authors who worked very hard and paid a big price and spent much time of their lives to disclosure information for future generations. Yes, you guys are trying to silent their voices, work and their books. Let’s wait and see the opinion of Rabies? If they say that these authors are not trustworthy, their work is not valid, and their Rabies are not recognized, them that`s okay. I doubt that one can refute these authors and their work. In the intervening time, learn Hebrew so you can have access to great Major Jewish Literature, otherwise will be very hard for you to discuss Judaism, or Jewish History, because you don’t have access to this kind of information. Judaism and Jewish History are very multifaceted, and for you to discuss these issues, you must set in motion from the beginning. Learn Hebrew; otherwise forget about contributing in any Jewish article in Wikipedia. For the sake of Judaism, Jewish History and Wikipedia`s readers. Go look for another topic and enjoy other subjects that you have knowledge and intellectual capacity to discuss and debate with others. Sometimes Wikipedia is not the place for amateurs and their poor contributions. Josephus article can and must be improve. This currently category B is not satisfactory for this article. Regarding Judaism or Jewish History, individuals with your level of knowledge have to sit tight and watch the contributions of others who know more than you, and are willing to sacrifice their time to bring additional information based in solid and two or three reliable sources in order to increase the quality of the article.--Chris Cohen (talk) 16:18, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

• Comment. If you are talking about Jewish religious leaders, could you please spell the word as rabbis, not rabies? "Rabies" is a disease suffered by various animals and has nothing to do with rabbis. Thank you! --Metropolitan90 (talk) 04:54, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Proposal to rename various categories from "Nazi concentration camps..." to "German Nazi concentration camps..."

There is a proposal currently going on at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2009 April 9#Nazi concentration camps which would rename various categories such as Category:Nazi concentration camps to Category:German Nazi concentration camps, Category:Nazi concentration camp survivors to Category:German Nazi concentration camp survivors, and so on. Anyone with an opinion about this can post at that discussion page. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 04:49, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Copyright concerns, History of the Jews in Poland

• History of the Jews in Poland (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Extensive copyright concerns have been noted in this article. Since it is listed of "high" importance to your project, I wanted to request your assistance in evaluating & address this, since it seems likely that sections of this article will require rewriting. The article has been blanked from publication to allow time for this matter to be addressed. The contributor who detected the issue has included a list of potential problem areas at the article's talk page. For more information, please see Wikipedia talk:Copyright problems#At History of the Jews in Poland and Wikipedia talk:Copyright problems#Several pages containing text copied verbatim from a website. I am also listing this problem at the article's other primary project and have already listed at Wikipedia WikiProject Copyright Cleanup. Traditionally, the article would remain blanked for a week and a day to allow the regular contributors time to address the matter before admin closure. Thank you very much for any assistance your project can offer. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 14:40, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Sefaradi Tahor

Can anyone answer me [Talk:Makhlouf_Eldaoudi|here], please? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.26.89.200 (talk) 22:17, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Request for assistance: Jewish history articles currently missing geocoordinates

This real-time CatScan search lists Jewish history articles that are tagged with {{coord missing}} as potentially geolocatable articles which are currently missing coordinates. (Note that the CatScan search may sometimes take several minutes to load.) See Wikipedia:How to add geocodes to articles for how to add coordinates to these articles, where appropriate.

As of today, there are 261 articles in that list. -- The Anome (talk) 12:19, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Hugh Llewellyn Glyn Hughes

I have created an article for the above British soldier, but I am unsure if he should be at all connected to one of the Jewish history projects/categories. He was the key witness for the prosecution at the Belsen Trial and also the commanding medical officer who attempted to save the victims of the camp. An interesting character. Any help or further information (he was invited to, and accepted trips to Israel) would be appreciated. Thanks in advance. FruitMonkey (talk) 22:47, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Albert Einstein

...is at peer review. Help get it back to FA. Casliber (talk · contribs) 11:33, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Project award

Are there some awards (barnstars?) for editors who create valuable content from the area of Jewish history? I wanted to nominate an editor who created a lot of such content for an award, but I couldn't find a place to do so (or the award in question). --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 18:49, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Hi Piotrus. There are two Judaism-related barnstars: {{The Jewish Barnstar}} and {{The New Jewish Barnstar}}. — Malik Shabazz (talk · contribs) 22:57, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Article on an Antisemitic publication is being whitewashed

Shalom. In the last few days, the WP article about an viciously antisemitic publication, Dalit Voice, (see this version), is being whitewashed by a Pakistani Nationalist editor with antisemitic proclivities. The banned and notorious sockmaster Nangparbat the evader, had been using his socks to attack the article, removing references by preeminent scholars such as Leon Poliakov to attest to it's antisemitism. This Islamist whitewasher is notorious for using dynamic ips to attack articles even after he has been blocked. For more details, please contact User:Thegreyanomaly. Please investigate into this very serious matter.Indifference now (talk) 23:47, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

For more information on the antisemitic publication, see this,this, and this.Indifference now (talk) 23:53, 26 June 2009 (UTC

Merge

I've just proposed that Unification Church and antisemitism (which is a part of this project) be merged to Divine Principle. Please join in the discussion, if you like. Steve Dufour (talk) 16:07, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Templates for deletion nomination of Template:Israel lobby

Template:Israel lobby has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. GHcool (talk) 16:10, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

GA reassessment of Julius and Ethel Rosenberg

I have conducted a reassessment of the above article as part of the GA Sweeps process. I have found a large number concerns with the referencing which you can see at Talk:Julius and Ethel Rosenberg/GA1. Consequently I have de-listed the article. Thanks. Jezhotwells (talk) 00:50, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion

Please see: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Unification Church and antisemitism Borock (talk) 04:12, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Khazars needs eyes again

Someone is trying to add what appears to be WP:OR and synthesis to Khazars again. Please see Talk:Khazars for examples of the latest. Extra eyes would be appreciated. -- Avi (talk) 15:41, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Hebrew centuries and historiography

I'd like to know what you think of Template:Hebrew centuries and making articles concerning Hebrew centuries as they relate to Jewish history. Is it a good idea or not? (Look at the template talk page.) — Rickyrab | Talk 18:41, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Assessment requested

Class and importance assessments requested for the articles Pacifica Forum and The Political Cesspool, both of which deal with anti-Semitism-related topics. The former article, in particular, also keeps getting targeted and whitewashed by various users; someone on here should probably watchlist it just in case. Stonemason89 (talk) 21:19, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

why russia was deleted from "Antisemitism around the world" ?

Isn't Russia one of the must active country currently for skinheads and Antisemitism , murders etc? Please someone take look at ""Antisemitism around the world" - other then russia there is more some country's to add

(Waffa 23:37, 18 August 2009 (UTC)).

• I agree. There seems to be a big pro-Russian faction on WP that is trying to rewrite history. Steve Dufour (talk) 16:48, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Doesn't a controversy need two sides?

Please check out Talk:Unification Church antisemitism controversy. Someone is arguing that only evidence of anti-Jewish attitudes by the Unification Church should be included, while evidence of pro-Jewish attitudes should be left out since the sources did not use the word "antisemitism" in reporting them. That seems kind of unfair to me. Steve Dufour (talk) 16:46, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

That's actually a pretty unfair description of the dispute. Jayjg ^(talk) 21:10, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

The article is now up for a second deletion nomination. I made a mistake and voted to keep in the first one. Anyway you were one of the people who tried to be fair. Thanks for that. Steve Dufour (talk) 13:39, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Taxation of the Jews

Hi there, I found this article and want a small review please, specially the wording. This seems to be a nice translation of a dissertation, but I really don't know, if it is okay to say the Jews all the time. Is it not Jews simply? As you can see, my wordings are very German - here now the excuse of native speaker - so me and the article need your help please. Feel free to move this page, maybe to Taxation of Jews in Hamburg and Altona. Thank you and happy editing. Sebastian scha. (talk) 23:34, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Featured article candidate: First Roumanian-American congregation

First Roumanian-American congregation is a Featured Article Candidate. Comments welcome here. Jayjg ^(talk) 21:12, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Merge proposal

I just suggested merging Unification Church antisemitism controversy to American Jewish Committee, since that is the main subject of the article. Please comment on the AJC talk page, if you like. Steve Dufour (talk) 18:15, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

New article proposal?

This image narrowly failed featured picture candidacy on 7.5 supports, 1 neutral, and 4 opposes

Hi, Pharosofalexandria has identified the synagogue from this photograph as Congregation Emunath Israel on West Twenty-third Street in New York City. The restored image narrowly missed featured picture promotion; am performing a new edit on the restoration. We'd like to resubmit it for featured picture consideration and it would help to have an article about this synagogue. Perhaps the new article could run at DYK? Seeking collaborators on the text side for a photograph of great historic merit. Best wishes, Durova³¹⁸ 22:55, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

Durova, Thank you for asking. The photograph is great. I like the expressions on the people's faces. But a quick search turns up little on the synagogue. This is the best name and address I can get for it: "Congregation Emunath Israel" "236 W 23rd St, New York, NY, 10011 " I'll keep on looking, but I am not sure that there is enough for an article. Bus stop (talk) 13:56, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

This is supposed to be a picture of it, but it doesn't look like the same stucture to me, unless it has undergone some considerable changes. Bus stop (talk) 23:41, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Feature article review

I have nominated The Protocols of the Elders of Zion for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. This article is listed as "High" priority by this project. -Verdatum (talk) 04:54, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

RfC at The Holocaust

Because we were unable to reach a consensus at The Holocaust, an RfC has started there. Please see Talk:The Holocaust#RfC: Should "The Holocaust" be moved?. Singularity42 (talk) 13:48, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

Soncino Talmud links

Please see User talk:Dauster#Soncino Talmud Links. -- Avi (talk) 15:44, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

Content disputes at Zydokomuna (a Good Article)

Comments appreciated at recent discussions at Talk:Żydokomuna. They currently include 1) proposed merger 2) disputed caption and 3) most contents of an entire section being removed. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 23:03, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Der Stürmer

A new article article, Content of Der Stürmer was created recently, which I tagged to be merged into Der Stürmer. It is mostly covered by Der Stürmer, but I don't know enough about the subject to determine whether there was content to be moved over before a redirect. No one has seemed that interested in discussing the proposal, and the author of the new article keeps removing the merge tag withou comment. Anyone willing to take a look? Singularity42 (talk) 21:36, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

RfC Second Temple

An RfC regarding which archaeological categories the Second Temple should fall under is currently underway here. --nsaum75 ^¡שיחת! 10:38, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Bernard Leeman and his Arabian Judah hypothesis

Is this something that is taken seriously enough to end up as fairly large bits of articles, including a major part of the lead for instance at History of the Jews in Saudi Arabia. It seems to be getting a lot of publicity recently in various articles. Thanks. Dougweller (talk) 19:47, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Zealot Temple Siege

Requesting an evaluation of importance for the Zealot Temple Siege article. Thank you. Noraft (talk) 10:16, 9 December 2009 (UTC)